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poop dood posted:This is very likely because the American IPAs you're getting in England are much older than the local stuff, for obvious shipping-related reasons. This, and the expense, are why I've kinda given up on paying out for US import IPAs. Saisons have a better shelf life as a rule? I grabbed a bunch of crooked stave Vielle and St.Bretta Pomello at the weekend, since I've never seen it over here before.
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Spanish Manlove posted:Edit: someone unsurprisingly mentioned the key factor of freshness, IE botting/canning date to drinking date. This is what I meant originally in a roundabout fashion, the big IIPAs (and triples etc) just taste malty, sweet and heavy to me. There are exceptions of course (the Pirate Life IIPA has gotten a lot of love in Australia in the last year and deserves it imo). It also pretty much answers my question so cheers!
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Spuckuk posted:The Cloudwater DIPA v3 is one of the only british IPAs I can genuinely say is worth whatever it costs to get one anywhere you can. Local shop here still have a good supply of them. Stored cold  .Where are you though? Id love to talk brit craft.
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Spuckuk posted:
yes, and Crooked Stave stuff in particular as it's bottle-conditioned and they use all kinds of fun, funky yeast/bacteria strains
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everythingWasBees posted:We still have to go to dedicated liquor stores in MD. You mean for liquor, right? Because one of the best beer stores in MD not too far from me is in a gas station, and even has a growler fill station. In DE you can't sell any alcohol in supermarkets or gas stations, but that doesn't really bother me at all.
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Is anyone from Indianapolis or familiar with some of the smaller breweries in the downtown? I'm here a couple of nights and if I could, I'd like to check out a new place. Been to Sun King and I think I'm in walking distance to Twodeep, chilly water, and metazoa.
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May 31, 2016 18:05
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Lickinghole brewer, lol at the name from a place called goochland also lol. Makes a terrible terrbile ginger of a mess beer that has no rights being barrel aged. Bourbon Barrel & Ginger Three Chopt Tripel
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Spuckuk posted:Saisons have a better shelf life as a rule? I grabbed a bunch of crooked stave Vielle and St.Bretta Pomello at the weekend, since I've never seen it over here before. Some of my favorite saisons were shelf turds that I picked up 2 years after bottling date. One even had the cork fly out of it a little after I took the cage off it. Bottle conditioned saisons, or wild ales etc, are the only style I actually prefer aged compared to as fresh as possible.
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Local shop here still have a good supply of them. Stored cold Liverpool, so pretty close to Cloudwater  The only beers I've deliberately held onto for any period of time have been belgian tripel/quadrupels. Though I did have a 2013 Siren barleywine at the weekend that was pretty incredible!
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Coincidentally, as part of my weekly attempt to drink down my cellar, this evening I'll be enjoying a 2014 Saison DuPont and a 2015 Saison-Brett.
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Spuckuk posted:Liverpool, so pretty close to Cloudwater Oh dang man youre also close to Mad Hatter! Their double nightmare is a bit of an addiction of mine. Their whole line up is now that i think about it. As for beer keeping I had the incredible luck to find a bottle of 2013 Chimay Blue languishing in a pub earlier this year. It was like communing with god. Personally I cant stand having a beer in my home for longer than 2-3 weeks tops. The temptation is too grrat. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 18:49 on May 31, 2016 |
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Juaguocio posted:But seriously, if you're looking for a bar in Vancouver with a good beer selection, you could try St. Augustine's, Craft Beer Market, or the Alibi Room. Thanks for all that great info. Exactly what I was looking for.
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sterster posted:Lickinghole brewer, lol at the name from a place called goochland also lol. Makes a terrible terrbile ginger of a mess beer that has no rights being barrel aged. it's Lickinghole Creek, which is actually the name of the stream that runs through the property, and Goochland is named after an early governor of the state. i wish i could do more to defend the beer itself, but, well, i can't. are you out this way or did you get some in trade? i honestly had no idea the version of the beer you listed even existed. oh, and if any of you Oregon folk wanna snag me some of that pfruity Pfriem...
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Perfectly Cromulent posted:Thanks for all that great info. Exactly what I was looking for. If you want to try something new and unique go to Big Rock and try the Earl Grey ESB and the Rye Saiseweizen. I work for the company that made the unique yeast strains that they used. What's special about the yeast is that we're selectively breeding it for particular attributes and it's unable to produce hydrogen sulfide, so the other aromatics really stand out. We wanted to to showcase what our yeast can do at the Canadian Brewing Awards last weekend so we got Big Rock to make some trial batches. They turned out so well that they put them on tap at their brewery downtown. We got to sample a few growlers of each at work and they both tasted amazing. The Saiseweizen is made with a hybrid between a French Saison yeast and a Bavarian Hefeweizen yeast. It maintains the aroma profiles of both parents, so you get the citrus, pepper, and bubblegum flavours you’d expect from a Saison and the clove and banana flavours you typically find in a Hefeweizen. I'm pretty sure that this is the first hybrid beer yeast in the world. The Earl Grey ESB is made with what we're tentatively calling an "Aromatic Ale" yeast, which was selectively bred for intense fruit-forward aromatics. This gives the beer strong aromas of stone and tropical fruits, such as nectarine, plum, mango, and pineapple and the addition of tea gives just a hint of fresh Earl Grey.
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I guess I'll have to give Big Rock another shot. The last brews I tried from there were very bad, so I haven't had anything of theirs for a few years. I see they've ditched some of the trendy crap like lime lager, which is a good sign. Had a nice Rye IPA from Doan's last night. I've really been enjoying that style recently. Perfectly Cromulent posted:Thanks for all that great info. Exactly what I was looking for. You're welcome! Feel free to send a PM if you want any more info (good music venues, parks to get loaded in, etc.) Juaguocio fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Juaguocio posted:I guess I'll have to give Big Rock another shot. The last brews I tried from there were very bad, so I haven't had anything of theirs for a few years. I see they've ditched some of the trendy crap like lime lager, which is a good sign. Was it their Alberta stuff? Because yeah, that is pretty bad. They have gone a different route entirely in Vancouver and have invested a lot of money into building a state-of-the-art brewery. Our QA scientist was particularly impressed with their facilities and it's one of the reasons why they were one of our first choices for trials. They have some resistance to overcome because they're larger, not local, and their Alberta products are uninspiring, but in Vancouver they're doing things right as far as I can tell.
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funkybottoms posted:it's Lickinghole Creek, which is actually the name of the stream that runs through the property, and Goochland is named after an early governor of the state. i wish i could do more to defend the beer itself, but, well, i can't. are you out this way or did you get some in trade? i honestly had no idea the version of the beer you listed even existed. No, I'm still between Mercury and the Sun, aka PHX. Someone brought it to a share which had many amazing things. I honestly started questioning the persons' motives for bringing it. sterster fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Jorge Von Bacon posted:Is anyone from Indianapolis or familiar with some of the smaller breweries in the downtown? I actually work at Sun King, hope you enjoyed! Skip Metazoa and Chilly Water, and I'm not sure about TwoDeep. You'll want to take a drive to Irvington (maybe 10 minutes east of downtown) to hit Black Acre. Aside from that St. Joseph's a few blocks north of Sun King usually has an interesting arrangement of styles, I haven't had anything stupendous from them but they're in a cool converted church building. If you head to a bar, try out anything from Taxman. They're a small brewery half an hour or so south of downtown that specializes in Belgian styles. Their IPAs are quite tasty and their house dubbel and tripel are very solid for house beers. Millions fucked around with this message at 04:15 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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I guess I finally drank that Cuvee Renee that's been sitting for a year or two. It was pretty darn good. I'm spoiled though because the only other gueuze I can really remember having is Beatification. I still pee the bed while dreaming of that beer. What a taste!!! Olde Hickory Lindley Park is also really loving good and one of my favorites
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cryme posted:You mean for liquor, right? Because one of the best beer stores in MD not too far from me is in a gas station, and even has a growler fill station. Apparently it's more county to county but here you can't get beer anywhere outside of a wine and spirits store.
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Juaguocio posted:I guess I'll have to give Big Rock another shot. The last brews I tried from there were very bad, so I haven't had anything of theirs for a few years. I see they've ditched some of the trendy crap like lime lager, which is a good sign. McGavin posted:Was it their Alberta stuff? Because yeah, that is pretty bad. They have gone a different route entirely in Vancouver and have invested a lot of money into building a state-of-the-art brewery. Our QA scientist was particularly impressed with their facilities and it's one of the reasons why they were one of our first choices for trials. They have some resistance to overcome because they're larger, not local, and their Alberta products are uninspiring, but in Vancouver they're doing things right as far as I can tell. I've been hearing a lot about how the brewpub out there has been making stuff FAR better than any of the AB output. It's going to be neat to see what they do when they expand to Toronto this summer. IF only they didn't use the same loving yeast for EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMNED BEER.
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No_talent posted:IF only they didn't use the same loving yeast for EVERY SINGLE GOD DAMNED BEER. Tell me about it, I'm working my butt off trying to change this. One of the first comments we usually hear from brewers is how surprised they are when our yeast doesn't stink during fermentation. That's because the yeast you're using is garbage. 
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sterster posted:No, I'm still between Mercury and the Sun, aka PHX. Someone brought it to a share which had many amazing things. I honestly started questioning the persons' motives for bringing it. well, at least it wasn't Magic Beaver, because there would be no way i could dam the jokes with that one! krustster posted:I guess I finally drank that Cuvee Renee that's been sitting for a year or two. It was pretty darn good. I'm spoiled though because the only other gueuze I can really remember having is Beatification. i try not to be the most pedantic motherfucker in the thread, but some days... McGavin posted:Tell me about it, I'm working my butt off trying to change this. One of the first comments we usually hear from brewers is how surprised they are when our yeast doesn't stink during fermentation. That's because the yeast you're using is garbage. what company do you work for? i work at a brewery in Virginia and am curious about your yeast, but i won't be offended if you would rather not make that public
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funkybottoms posted:
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Millions posted:I actually work at Sun King, hope you enjoyed! I just moved to Louisville from Chicago and stopped at Sun King in Indy on the way down. I had never been before, and had wanted to try your stuff for a while. I was super disappointed though with the take away coolers - all the Osiris and IPA was well over a month old. Is this normal there? I'm not super picky about date (although 2 day old Anti Hero is amazing), but I was surprised something would be that old at the brewery.
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Millions posted:I actually work at Sun King, hope you enjoyed! Thanks for the suggestions! Ill keep an eye out. Maybe I'll just head back to Sun King again. Really enjoyed it last time when they had a coffee wee Mac on. Other than sun king, the only local I've had much of is flat 12- both of those weren't too impressive either.
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Paul Proteus posted:I just moved to Louisville from Chicago and stopped at Sun King in Indy on the way down. I had never been before, and had wanted to try your stuff for a while. I was super disappointed though with the take away coolers - all the Osiris and IPA was well over a month old. Is this normal there? I'm not super picky about date (although 2 day old Anti Hero is amazing), but I was surprised something would be that old at the brewery. Yeah, on the sales team we're embarrassed by that too. We just reached statewide distribution a few months ago and have been prioritizing the freshest stuff going out to accounts. We're in the process of making some big production changes, so the cooler at the brewery should have fresher stuff once we work the kinks out. Sorry about that!
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Millions posted:Yeah, on the sales team we're embarrassed by that too. We just reached statewide distribution a few months ago and have been prioritizing the freshest stuff going out to accounts. We're in the process of making some big production changes, so the cooler at the brewery should have fresher stuff once we work the kinks out. Sorry about that! Holy poo poo... Someone who cares!!! Can you work for other breweries, too??
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Millions posted:I actually work at Sun King, hope you enjoyed! Black Acre is pretty rad. When I was there last, they had a pretty decent selection of beers from Central State, who make some really awesome 100% Brett Beers. The 2 I had were good times. I'm starting to see their HOUSE beer show up in liquor stores now.
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Millions posted:Yeah, on the sales team we're embarrassed by that too. We just reached statewide distribution a few months ago and have been prioritizing the freshest stuff going out to accounts. We're in the process of making some big production changes, so the cooler at the brewery should have fresher stuff once we work the kinks out. Sorry about that! Makes sense, I can appreciate that logic - congrats on being able to distro that far now. I enjoyed the stuff I got so far, but look forward to trying some super fresh. If I wasn't driving I would have tried the taps.
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Yeah, the turnaround on Sun King has been interesting. That dustup last year with the volume limitation sucked the distribution range way down, but I'm seeing the beers show up more now - unfortunately, it's a ton of Sunlight and not much else. I quite like the Fistfull of Hops variants and my friend is kinda mental for Wee Mac.
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Cigar City's El Cat round 3 just ended and you can renew for round 4 now, but with a twist: you can get a 2 bottle allotment for double the price, which makes sense. The two new ones sound kinda goofy but interesting. Bottle #5 quote:Decoherence is a 50/50 blend of two distinct beers: an imperial porter aged in bourbon barrels (Outskirts), and an imperial stout aged in brandy barrels (brewed only for this beer). Then, because we like to have fun, we aged it on coffee and coconut. Extra bottle: quote:Hapax Legomenon refers to a word or form that occurs only once in a document. And often, it is a word that you’ll find only one time in an author’s entire oeuvre. For example, Shakespeare used the word “satyr” exactly once in all of his writings. I'm betting this one's weird enough that people won't buy it for themselves so expect douchy florida traders trying to flip it just because it's an El Cat beer.
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Spanish Manlove posted:
I'm a sucker for gin so... bought. Even though I kinda hate tripels! I've been pretty surprised by the general lack of interest in El Cat bottles and the few people who have tried to flip them in hilarious trades even though people seem to be falling over themselves to get in the club...
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Round 4 should be insane. Tons of awesome sounding beers have gotten label approval as of late, so upgrading to the double bottle membership is a no-brainer.
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Bag of Sun Chips posted:Round 4 should be insane. Tons of awesome sounding beers have gotten label approval as of late, so upgrading to the double bottle membership is a no-brainer. poo poo. Was looking to maybe give up my membership... Details?
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danbanana posted:poo poo. Was looking to maybe give up my membership... Details? $150 for the regular thing, one bottle each of five different beers. Double allotment is $300 and gives you two bottles each of the five different beers. When you go to renew there should be an option for single or double allotment. Edit: something not really obvious is that for both allotments you only get one of the exclusive glass. Spanish Manlove fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Spanish Manlove posted:$150 for the regular thing, one bottle each of five different beers. I meant details of the potential beers that BOSC was discussing.
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danbanana posted:I meant details of the potential beers that BOSC was discussing. Oh derp. Well the one that struck me was DBH so I forgot about everything else.
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danbanana posted:I meant details of the potential beers that BOSC was discussing. Obviously nothing is 100% certain, but they've gotten label approvals for: Brandy Barrel Hunahpu Rum Barrel Hunahpu Double Barrel Hunahpu Rum Zhukov
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