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GotLag posted:Even with photos people won't believe you. Wasn't this one heated by a torch to remove the nut?
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frozenpussy posted:from reddit This is totally fine exactly until your gas line springs a leak.
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LordSaturn posted:This is totally fine exactly until your gas line springs a leak. At which point the electrical guy can blame the gas guy! Brilliant!
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May 26, 2016 17:55
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For both of those photos, one should keep in mind that a cell phone camera (or any digital camera) has a CCD in it, and they tend to be more sensitive in the infrared than the human eye. So things will glow more on camera than they do from you looking at them. Also for the water heater one, possibly the gas has been turned off, even if the power is still on. And, the natural gas being preheated before injection into the burner probably makes the burner more efficient?
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May 26, 2016 18:05
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Leperflesh posted:And, the natural gas being preheated before injection into the burner probably makes the burner more efficient? This one weird trick the energy companies don't want you to know!
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May 26, 2016 18:15
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Even if the gas is off I'd not keep all that cardboard next to a hot line.
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May 26, 2016 18:34
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Leperflesh posted:For both of those photos, one should keep in mind that a cell phone camera (or any digital camera) has a CCD in it, and they tend to be more sensitive in the infrared than the human eye. So things will glow more on camera than they do from you looking at them. also the gas flow woulda acted as active coolant as long as the heater was running- if the heater is inefficient enough, i can see that maybe keeping the temp down enough to not-glow at least some of the time, which would explain how it prolly took a while for anyone to get on that
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May 26, 2016 19:38
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How much power is typically flowing to ground?
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May 26, 2016 19:42
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In a typical house? Not much. However, considering the house was wired without a ground, I imagine there may be other issues that would cause high ground current, at least for the thin walls of a steel tube not designed for current.
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Unless you're dealing with some crazy-rear end single-wire earth return rural bullshit, the ground current should be negligible. If the description of that photo is accurate, I would imagine that there is some sort of short from hot to ground that has somehow not tripped the breaker, in the process revealing the flaw in their choice of ground. Either that, or an appliance's neutral was wired to ground and directly connected up to the gas pipe, bypassing the breaker completely. for the love of god someone tell me if i'm completely off base
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May 26, 2016 19:52
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Slanderer posted:Unless you're dealing with some crazy-rear end single-wire earth return rural bullshit, the ground current should be negligible. If the description of that photo is accurate, I would imagine that there is some sort of short from hot to ground that has somehow not tripped the breaker, in the process revealing the flaw in their choice of ground. yeah I would call it a short, but I don't know much about residential anything source: 1,285 comments and counting, good luck https://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/4l348u/house_had_no_proper_ground_electricity_grounds/
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May 26, 2016 20:06
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If the gas is on isn't it displacing the O2 in the line, preventing combustion? Wouldn't turning it off slowly allow air to flow in someway
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May 26, 2016 20:11
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Enourmo posted:In a typical house? Not much. I bet that the ground was wired but the neutral connection to the pole went/is bad. If the two phases aren't perfectly balanced the difference that would normally take that low resistance return is now going to find a way out. Even if there is a properly installed grounding rod or foundation ground, odds are the many yards long buried metal gas line is an even better path. What's also scary is that inside the walls there is some 14 or 12ga Romex carrying the same current that turned the pipe cherry red.
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May 26, 2016 20:11
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Some quick math suggests that the gas connector is carrying at a bare minimum 20 amps, and possibly several times more than that.
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May 26, 2016 20:37
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Leperflesh posted:For both of those photos, one should keep in mind that a cell phone camera (or any digital camera) has a CCD in it, That's why CCD cameras have pretty strong infrared filters installed over the CCD to prevent infrared light from screwing with the photos. If you want to do infrared photography with most digital cameras, you need to modify them to remove the filter or just deal with very long exposure times.
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Quick dump: http://imgur.com/a/xNceG Pics 1&2 A 3' three outlet extension cord above ceiling, powering a plasma TV. Jammed in the ~1" gap between the concrete deck and top of the conduit/mounting pipe. Pics 3&4 One of the "buildings" on my folks new property. This is a TWO STORY unattached addition to the original house, which is also a nightmare in its own right. Not to mention another shanty/shed that was inhabited and a pump house built out of fire wood and prayer. Everything is severely slanted, we're tearing it all down of course. Pic 5 I see this all over the place, how do you bend a pipe that much without damaging the threads and leaking everywhere?
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May 26, 2016 21:48
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Instead of threading metal-to-metal the urinal downpipe seals with a thick gasket at the bottom that gives you a lot of wiggle room by design, but that's pretty extreme.
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frozenpussy posted:from reddit  I've heard of old shorted out runs of BX glowing like that, but never a gas line!
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nmfree posted:All you need is some tusks and a googly eye and you could always obliquely mention "the elephant in the room" Ooh our old country place had a glacial erratic with a profile very much like that, maybe a bit bigger, between the tractor shed and the chicken house and we called it Elephant Rock. There were some much bigger ones at the edge of the forest and one of them always had rabbit poo poo on it (which is really odd since I don't see why an animal would climb a big rock just to do a poo) and we called it Rabbit poo poo Rock. Welp that's my big rock story hope you enjoyed it 
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May 27, 2016 13:32
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From the Dodgy Techs Facebook group. No info on where the poster saw it, but he's based in the US. It's a good group if you do a lot of production work.   And for something less crappy. Security first.
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kelvron posted:From the Dodgy Techs Facebook group. No info on where the poster saw it, but he's based in the US. I have a confession to make. I like this.
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May 27, 2016 18:22
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frozenpussy posted:I have a confession to make. I like this. Me too. Add a small label [Electrical Panel Inside] to the front and you're golden.
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May 27, 2016 18:24
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Gounads posted:Me too. Add a small label [Electrical Panel Inside] to the front and you're golden. is that the deficiency? I feel like signage would detract from the secret squirrel appeal though.
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May 27, 2016 18:27
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It doesn't need a sign it needs a chime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d3qCPcMgH4
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May 27, 2016 18:28
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I thought it was a safe at first, and I was like, sweet, that's a pretty solid job. Then I realized what was actually going on and, well, nope.
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kid sinister posted:
A guy in AI a while back worked on a car where the ABS module failed in such a way that it shorted to ground... that ground being the rear brake line. It was glowing brightly when he lifted it up, and rusted to poo poo once he disconnected the battery (the other lines were shiny and the car was decently new iirc). Brake fluid is pretty drat flammable, though obviously not generally explosive.
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Slanderer posted:Unless you're dealing with some crazy-rear end single-wire earth return rural bullshit, the ground current should be negligible. If the description of that photo is accurate, I would imagine that there is some sort of short from hot to ground that has somehow not tripped the breaker, in the process revealing the flaw in their choice of ground. SWER is some wierd crazy bullshit. My friend has it on a property WAY up in the flinders ranges and the earthing system on that thing is NUTS. Earthing rod is 6m long, bout an inch diameter solid steel pin clad with copper, and theres multiples of them.
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kelvron posted:From the Dodgy Techs Facebook group. No info on where the poster saw it, but he's based in the US. That is definitely not readily accessible. Looks nice though.
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The electrical panel at my work is exactly like that, slightly different wall panel system but otherwise identical situation.
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Builders, more like buildurrrrrrrs
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It turned out that the layer of leaves at the bottom of my gutters was load bearing.
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Shifty Pony posted:It turned out that the layer of leaves at the bottom of my gutters was load bearing. Did your roof cave in?
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Shifty Pony posted:
My house had some bad toilet paper placement when I bought it: 
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Elder Postsman posted:My house had some bad toilet paper placement when I bought it: And I thought cats and toddlers were bad...
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Elder Postsman posted:My house had some bad toilet paper placement when I bought it: I just realized I've never actually seen a forced air system. They actually blow that strong? I guess it doesn't take much to move toilet paper! The house I grew up in had ducts like those but warm air just sort of came up, there was no force behind it. Everywhere else it's been electric base board garbage or hot water radiators.
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Elder Postsman posted:My house had some bad toilet paper placement when I bought it: Well, yeah, the toilet paper end should go under the roll 
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YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH
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Geirskogul posted:YOU SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQod276-7Mo 
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Baronjutter posted:I just realized I've never actually seen a forced air system. They actually blow that strong? I guess it doesn't take much to move toilet paper! The house I grew up in had ducts like those but warm air just sort of came up, there was no force behind it. Everywhere else it's been electric base board garbage or hot water radiators. I've definitely never seen a register that blows w much force. I can see it if the HVAC is oversized for the living space or you're doing some goofy min-max thing by shutting almost all the registers to increase airflow through the remaining open ones
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NancyPants posted:Did your roof cave in? Not yet, but the carport ceiling was dripping because the gutter was clogged with a large enough amount of debris to form a dam holding an inch or two of water on the roof. Clearing out the leaves caused the bottom of the gutter to fall out when I washed out the dirt with a hose. But depending on how much damage was done to the wooden carport structure over the years that the previous tenants ignored the problem a roof collapse might just be in the future!
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