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Cant apply it AND Carthus Rouge at the same time
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Million Ghosts posted:wait wait does Carthus Flame Arc really have like no int/faith requirement? why doesn't literally everyone use this? It has really bad scaling compared to the other weapon buff spells. For the price of the spell you could buy 200 charcoal resins for roughly the same effect, and you don't even need an attunement slot for them. Fister Roboto fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Jun 1, 2016 06:33
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but you wouldn't use other spell buffs if you didn't invest anything into int/fth so it's a moot point
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Jun 1, 2016 06:34
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doesn't it last longer than item buffs anyways? it's not a game changer but why not take free attack power. also i always start as deprived so it takes literally no stat investment.
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Jun 1, 2016 06:47
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It barely adds any damage at all though. I just tested it out on my character with 40/40/10/10 and a +10 refined longsword. Against the Lothric knight in front of the twin princes fog door I was doing 248 damage without the buff and 270 with. That kind of sucks!
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Jun 1, 2016 06:47
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is there something better to run on a primarily weapons only character? pyro doesn't do much damage with 10 int/faith and it beats nothing.
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Jun 1, 2016 06:49
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Jun 1, 2016 06:51
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Fister Roboto posted:It barely adds any damage at all though. I just tested it out on my character with 40/40/10/10 and a +10 refined longsword. Against the Lothric knight in front of the twin princes fog door I was doing 248 damage without the buff and 270 with. That kind of sucks! An extra ~8.8% damage for basically nothing on a deprived seems like a pretty good deal, but I agree it is very modest all things considered.
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Jun 1, 2016 06:53
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If I put on a fire clutch ring and tank my defenses It goes up to 273 damage! WOWMillion Ghosts posted:is there something better to run on a primarily weapons only character? pyro doesn't do much damage with 10 int/faith and it beats nothing. I'd argue that it's not worth the stat investment for a melee only character. Again, charcoal resins can do the same thing without needing the stats.
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Fister Roboto posted:It barely adds any damage at all though. I just tested it out on my character with 40/40/10/10 and a +10 refined longsword. Against the Lothric knight in front of the twin princes fog door I was doing 248 damage without the buff and 270 with. That kind of sucks! Not for PVP. That bit of extra damage can mean a world of difference.
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Fister Roboto posted:If I put on a fire clutch ring and tank my defenses It goes up to 273 damage! WOW if there was stat investment then sure, but like i said i only run deprived and guess who has 10s Manatee Cannon posted:a bow always have a bow, but the pyro hand weighs nothing so why not. Million Ghosts fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Jun 1, 2016 |
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Jun 1, 2016 06:57
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There's no reason to cast flame arc when you can just use a resin instead.
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Jun 1, 2016 07:13
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It's alright if you just want to fire-stun a dude w/o switching weapons since a lot of enemies in this game stop-drop-and-roll at the dimmest pyrotechnics. Dogs,leech men/leech monsters, the pus of man, naked undead, etc all hate fire.
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Jun 1, 2016 07:38
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gently caress the Pus of Man those guys keep murdering me all the time.
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Jun 1, 2016 07:45
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SynthOrange posted:gently caress the Pus of Man those guys keep murdering me all the time. Anything fire wrecks them, I tend to just toss bombs from a distance
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Jun 1, 2016 07:50
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Finally finished this after waiting a month for my computer to get fixed. gently caress Jailers.
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Jun 1, 2016 07:55
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Internet Kraken posted:There's no reason to cast flame arc when you can just use a resin instead. It's a real shame because the fire weapon buff in DS2 kicked so much rear end that it had to be nerfed pretty heavily.
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Jun 1, 2016 07:56
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Sakurazuka posted:Anything fire wrecks them, I tend to just toss bombs from a distance yeah this works well. there's a little cooldown period where you can't stagger them right away, but if you can time it right any fire attack can keep them basically stunlocked. also a lot of them can be killed before transforming but I think that means you get stuck with regular hollow souls/drop table
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Yeah you don't get anything good from killing them while they're normal hollows
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Manatee Cannon posted:yeah this works well. there's a little cooldown period where you can't stagger them right away, but if you can time it right any fire attack can keep them basically stunlocked. also a lot of them can be killed before transforming but I think that means you get stuck with regular hollow souls/drop table That's correct. The two in the High Wall have a guaranteed drop the first time you kill them, an ember and a shard each, so definitely let them spawn.
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Jun 1, 2016 08:02
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Asimov posted:An extra ~8.8% damage for basically nothing on a deprived seems like a pretty good deal, but I agree it is very modest all things considered. Charcoal Pine Resin is +85 fire damage, doesn't require an attunement slot, and doesn't cost FP to use. If you're somehow not able to afford resins (how???) then it can be a good deal I guess, or maybe if you're running out of resin uses while you run around?
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Jun 1, 2016 09:13
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SynthOrange posted:gently caress the Pus of Man those guys keep murdering me all the time. If only you had Flame Arc they'd be cake.
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Jun 1, 2016 09:28
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So if I summon two players for a boss, head into the boss fog and start the fight, then the two player drop/ditch me the boss's health does reduce, right?
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Jun 1, 2016 09:44
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Golden Goat posted:So if I summon two players for a boss, head into the boss fog and start the fight, then the two player drop/ditch me the boss's health does reduce, right? I don't think so. Earlier today two summons of mine got stuck behind a boss fog wall and eventually left/got smashed through it, I was only doing a fraction of what I normally did on the boss's health bar.
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Jun 1, 2016 09:58
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QuarkJets posted:Charcoal Pine Resin is +85 fire damage, doesn't require an attunement slot, and doesn't cost FP to use. If you're somehow not able to afford resins (how???) then it can be a good deal I guess, or maybe if you're running out of resin uses while you run around? To be fair a good chunk of that damage is going to be soaked up by flat damage reduction just like flame arc. Flame arc is supposed to add 86% of your spell buff so even with an unupgraded pyro hand and minimum stats it would be +86 damage before DR, making it slightly better than a resin. But I stand by my position that it's not worth the stat investment.
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Odobenidae posted:I don't think so. Earlier today two summons of mine got stuck behind a boss fog wall and eventually left/got smashed through it, I was only doing a fraction of what I normally did on the boss's health bar. Wonderful, turns out what I needed to beat the Dancer was for her to have extra health and no help. E: Also that basin & statue mechanism was really silly when it just releases a ladder down for you.
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Jun 1, 2016 10:07
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If only you could climb those little gates on those stairs
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It's all very symbolic i'm sure. Over in the BF's run he's burning out fast on Pontiff's fight. He's still doing well since he switched to bleed weapons instead though.
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Jun 1, 2016 10:13
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For all the criticism From gets for their patch notes, it could be worse. The last three patches for DOOM have been just one line: 'Various bug fixes'. Is NG+ just more health for all enemies or do the deal more damage too?
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Jun 1, 2016 11:16
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The issues in Doom are really minor while Dark souls 3 is broken as gently caress and it's just the fact that the game is still really good that has allowed us to enjoy it anyway. Wish they could patch the middle of the game to make it interesting.
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MZ posted:For all the criticism From gets for their patch notes, it could be worse. The last three patches for DOOM have been just one line: 'Various bug fixes'. A small damage increase I think, but compared to DS2 for example the NG+ is very tame and not much of a challenge after the late game areas.
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So I was unaware until last night that there was any sort of item dupe glitch for the PS4. Started a new character as a SL50 Catacombs invader. I glitched the Dancer, and was down summonbro'ng for Vordt to pick up a few extra embers before I leveled up. So keep in mind I am maybe SL15-ish with an unupgraded weapon. I get summoned, and a guy is standing there in Artorias' armor, with Sword Master and the other NPC summon (Lion Knight somebody?). He's not gesturing hello or anything but I see him twitching a bit, then he moves and there's an item on the ground. So I pick it up, and it's some late-game weapon (I forget which). I bow to say thank you, and he starts rapidly dropping more stuff - all late-game or boss soul weapons - maybe 40 in total. Not all late-game gear, but most of it. Then he drops 99 Embers, 99 Souls of a Great Champion, 99 Souls of a Champion, and 99 Souls of a Venerable Old Hand. So he's all  while I'm all  So we finally go into the boss fight, and I'm wondering if I'm on NG++++++++++++++++++++++ or something, but no - a normal NG Vordt fight happens, and the host wasn't doing an unusual amount of damage either. I tried messaging him via Recently Met players, but I got the wrong guy. I went to bed and looked up to see if there is an item dupe glitch out in the wild. Seems there was one for Boss Souls only, but reports are fuzzy on whether or not it's been patched out. Only other thing I can think of is a save file edit of some sort. Anyone seen anything similar? Am I gonna be banned? 
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VodeAndreas posted:A small damage increase I think, but compared to DS2 for example the NG+ is very tame and not much of a challenge after the late game areas. I thought this until I reached Dragonslayer Armor on NG++. More like Dragonslayer SPONGE. His health bar starts moving at a snail's pace. That's not a hard fight but it became an endurance battle on NG++. NG+ wasn't too bad.
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HaB posted:So I was unaware until last night that there was any sort of item dupe glitch for the PS4. Started a new character as a SL50 Catacombs invader. I glitched the Dancer, and was down summonbro'ng for Vordt to pick up a few extra embers before I leveled up. So keep in mind I am maybe SL15-ish with an unupgraded weapon. There is a soul dupe for both PS4 and PC right now that requires backing up your save file and another person to summon. So it's possible a friend of his who was on NG+ (those souls only appear on New Game Plus) did the dupe with him. That doesn't explain the boss soul weapons/late game weapons though.
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Golden Goat posted:Wonderful, turns out what I needed to beat the Dancer was for her to have extra health and no help. People harp about dark souls 2 all the time for that elevator but this was incredibly silly and I'm not sure why it doesn't have a similar reputation. You have to do all this to...lower a ladder?
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Digirat posted:People harp about dark souls 2 all the time for that elevator but this was incredibly silly and I'm not sure why it doesn't have a similar reputation. You have to do all this to...lower a ladder? In ds2 you have to travel all over the place and kill the 4 big bosses because you can't crawl over a small pile of rocks
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Jun 1, 2016 14:09
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I figured the architect was a peculiarfella, and just like in real life the upper class didn't want to mix with the lower class and keep them away like that. I cannot figure out the DS2 elevator or how to make sense of it even in a fantasy world. Or many other things. At least DS2 doesn't get my armoured rear end perma-stunlocked by tiny weak enemies.
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Was gonna run Smouldering Lake for the first time tonight but my Brother-in-Law pinged me as soon as I was online to play FIFA. I chose... poorly.
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Replaying BB with my friend, I still can't beat Father G without a phantom. Neither could my friend, and he blew enough blood vials that we gave up and summoned because gently caress grinding for vials. I'm so glad estus is what it is in the rest of the series.
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RBA Starblade posted:Replaying BB with my friend, I still can't beat Father G without a phantom. Neither could my friend, and he blew enough blood vials that we gave up and summoned because gently caress grinding for vials. I'm so glad estus is what it is in the rest of the series. Yes, but you have already illustrated that you are playing an entirely different game from the Bloodborne the rest of us know and love.
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