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chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

BattleMaster posted:

I'm looking forward to good AR headsets because of the potential for technical applications. Projecting schematics and datasheets into your view, showing where to put parts or what to do next, and such could be pretty cool.

GURPS Ultra-Tech had that as a suggestion for futuristic technology. It's basically a set of AR goggles that overlay glowing transparent images of the next piece to put into place. The example illustration had a child using it for building a block tower.

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Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Phlegmish posted:

Is that pic from 2006, they're dressed like it's the nineties
The laptop looks like it's from the 90s as well.

AMISH FRIED PIES
Mar 6, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nerds still dress that way though.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

The Orange Mage posted:

Nerds still dress that way though.

What? Jeans and sneakers? Whoa, better execute those fashion pariahs.

Coffee And Pie
Nov 4, 2010

"Blah-sum"?
More like "Blawesome"
Those are bad jeans and bad sneakers.

The sweaters are alright.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

Croccers posted:

Speaking of AR, here's some obsolete AR tech from 1999 up to 2006.
http://www.tinmith.net/backpack.htm
http://wearables.unisa.edu.au/projects/arquake/


2006 videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNYfkxqiB6g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDYv_uLmkEU (This one is loving loud, careful)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb5rACCUC1g

I wonder what ever happened to the guys working on that and what they think now.

Keyboard boy has an expression on his face "hey that guys taking a photo of us, he's gonna steal our awesome idea!'.

I still think VR is DOA as a major new thing, it will say something that has a small but dedicated userbase, but its not going to change the world. People don't want poo poo on their face. I got to play Job Simulator recently and it was fun for the 10 minutes, but I can't see getting more than a hours worth of enjoyment out of it. I keep seeing say "it will be awesome for Game x" but no one is making that stuff, its all like gimmicky wii level stuff. The closest we have to what someone wants is Eve Valkyrie but I've heard that's far from a TIE Fighter/Wing Commander space action sim. Though people have been demanding that an upcoming triple A title be for the Occulus or PSVR or the Steam VR, most notably Half Life Episode 3 keeps getting mentioned. Yes lets make a game that has taken more than 10 years to come out and put it on a system that only a tiny amount of people have.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Coffee And Pie posted:

Those are bad jeans and bad sneakers.

The sweaters are alright.

You would love the oversize sweater, wouldn't you.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

chitoryu12 posted:

GURPS Ultra-Tech had that as a suggestion for futuristic technology. It's basically a set of AR goggles that overlay glowing transparent images of the next piece to put into place. The example illustration had a child using it for building a block tower.

I would think it would be awesome to give me AR direction headings, and as a reminder of people's names I don't remember.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


I came here to post that exact 90's setup when I say that red backpack getup. Good show! I couldn't find it.

As for walk around VR - I haven enough trouble moving around without the VR (mostly cos I'm drunken Aussie).

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

twistedmentat posted:

Keyboard boy has an expression on his face "hey that guys taking a photo of us, he's gonna steal our awesome idea!'.

I still think VR is DOA as a major new thing, it will say something that has a small but dedicated userbase, but its not going to change the world. People don't want poo poo on their face. I got to play Job Simulator recently and it was fun for the 10 minutes, but I can't see getting more than a hours worth of enjoyment out of it. I keep seeing say "it will be awesome for Game x" but no one is making that stuff, its all like gimmicky wii level stuff. The closest we have to what someone wants is Eve Valkyrie but I've heard that's far from a TIE Fighter/Wing Commander space action sim. Though people have been demanding that an upcoming triple A title be for the Occulus or PSVR or the Steam VR, most notably Half Life Episode 3 keeps getting mentioned. Yes lets make a game that has taken more than 10 years to come out and put it on a system that only a tiny amount of people have.

It'll be amazing for the flight sim stuff where people currently use head tracking. Other than that? Well, it'll be cool if we ever get another mech sim I guess?

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
VR is basically ideal for a game where your character is sitting a chair while stuff happens around them. Flight sims, racing games, etc. - you might get a little seasick, since what your eyes are seeing doesn't match up with what your inner ear is feeling, but it's not insurmountable.

Games where your character is supposedly running and jumping all over the place, while you're still just sitting in a chair, are an entirely different story.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

It's apparently great for Elite:Dangerous and the like, yeah.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef

Samizdata posted:

I would think it would be awesome to give me AR direction headings, and as a reminder of people's names I don't remember.

Yeah, for all that we'll probably get some fun games out of it, applications like this are what really interest me and what I think have the best shot of making AR take off with the general public. Look at someone and learn/be reminded of their name and other basic details. Walk past a restaurant and see the menu and its Yelp rating. Look at a product in a store and see price comparisons. Speed up car repairs as the parts relevant at each step are highlighted.

To take it further into the future, remember that bit in Battlestar Galactica about how Cylons can choose how to see their surroundings? Sounds like really good AR to me. Turn on your AR device and visualize your office as a jungle or log cabin or whatever with the furniture and everything still there, just reskinned.

pienipple
Mar 20, 2009

That's wrong!

Computer viking posted:

It's apparently great for Elite:Dangerous and the like, yeah.

My gf plays Elite: Dangerous with the Vive and a HOTAS setup.

The graffiti simulator and tilt brush are pretty cool too.

It's an expensive toy that's still way early in development, but i think it's got enough interest and support to stick around. It's not going to replace regular console and PC games but prices will come down and it'll become it's own niche.

ambient oatmeal
Jun 23, 2012

Toast Museum posted:

Yeah, for all that we'll probably get some fun games out of it, applications like this are what really interest me and what I think have the best shot of making AR take off with the general public. Look at someone and learn/be reminded of their name and other basic details. Walk past a restaurant and see the menu and its Yelp rating. Look at a product in a store and see price comparisons. Speed up car repairs as the parts relevant at each step are highlighted.



Because what I really want when I'm walking around or talking to people is more visual clutter.

SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

keyboard vomit posted:

Because what I really want when I'm walking around or talking to people is more visual clutter.

Down the line when your visual and aural inputs are able to be filtered with AR, you could block out everyone else.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef

keyboard vomit posted:

Because what I really want when I'm walking around or talking to people is more visual clutter.

Oh, no, I'm talking about that sort of information being available on demand. Having all of it in your face all the time is obviously way too much to deal with.

ambient oatmeal
Jun 23, 2012

Toast Museum posted:

Oh, no, I'm talking about that sort of information being available on demand. Having all of it in your face all the time is obviously way too much to deal with.

So AR is just a fancy version of pulling my phone out of my pocket.

Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef

keyboard vomit posted:

So AR is just a fancy version of pulling my phone out of my pocket.

Yes, totally indistinguishable. Thank you for resolving this for us.

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


80s Digital Dash chat:

I can't remember if I've posted my car here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7v80sSlPFw

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
I like when things sound like an old game show.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Goober Peas posted:

80s Digital Dash chat:

I can't remember if I've posted my car here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7v80sSlPFw

That sounds like a drat pinball machine.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
I remember when my dad got a car that would say "The Door is Ajar" when a door was open for more than 10 seconds. My sister and I thought it was hilarious.

Kite Pride Worldwide
Apr 20, 2009


twistedmentat posted:

I remember when my dad got a car that would say "The Door is Ajar" when a door was open for more than 10 seconds. My sister and I thought it was hilarious.

No, the door is a door! ;)

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

twistedmentat posted:

I remember when my dad got a car that would say "The Door is Ajar" when a door was open for more than 10 seconds. My sister and I thought it was hilarious.

The seatbelt ding in cars is based on weight detected in the front seat, right? It always seemed like having an especially heavy load riding shotgun would result in eternal dinging unless you could fasten the seatbelt on it.

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
I feel like stuff like Google Glass and other AR gear will never catch on until it's so small that people can't even tell it's there, like built into contact lenses or indistinguishable from normal glasses, because it's pretty much a requirement for those things to have a camera and other sensors that are always on to be useful at all, but that (understandably) creeps people the gently caress out when they know it's there. The problem is sociological and not technological now.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



chitoryu12 posted:

The seatbelt ding in cars is based on weight detected in the front seat, right? It always seemed like having an especially heavy load riding shotgun would result in eternal dinging unless you could fasten the seatbelt on it.

In the same way that glass pipes are the local head shop are "for smoking tobacco", they make little clips that go into the seatbelt receiver "for hauling loads in the passenger seat". (They're for idiots who insist on driving without a seat belt)

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Pham Nuwen posted:

In the same way that glass pipes are the local head shop are "for smoking tobacco", they make little clips that go into the seatbelt receiver "for hauling loads in the passenger seat". (They're for idiots who insist on driving without a seat belt)
Actually kinda useful for someone who puts their heavy bag on the passenger seat every day to and from work

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

On a more WTF car note, I've recently encountered some vans and SUVs that allow the driver and passenger doors to be opened while locked. Kinda like a double-action revolver, pulling the handle raises the lock and opens the door when it's all the way up. I tested and found that this can be done while the vehicle is moving. I can see some dumbass kid in the front seat absentmindedly playing with the door handle on the freeway.

The new GMC Terrain is much better about it. Pulling the door handle once pops the lock open, then you need to pull the handle a second time to open the door.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.
Can't you just fasten the belt before you put your bag down?

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Slanderer posted:

Actually kinda useful for someone who puts their heavy bag on the passenger seat every day to and from work

Life hack: put it on the floor.

Instant Sunrise
Apr 12, 2007


The manger babies don't have feelings. You said it yourself.
If your passenger seat load is heavy enough to set off the seatbelt sensor, it's probably heavy enough to do some real damage if it goes flying if you stopped suddenly.

Alternatively, use your trunk.

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

chitoryu12 posted:

On a more WTF car note, I've recently encountered some vans and SUVs that allow the driver and passenger doors to be opened while locked. Kinda like a double-action revolver, pulling the handle raises the lock and opens the door when it's all the way up. I tested and found that this can be done while the vehicle is moving. I can see some dumbass kid in the front seat absentmindedly playing with the door handle on the freeway.

The new GMC Terrain is much better about it. Pulling the door handle once pops the lock open, then you need to pull the handle a second time to open the door.

I know a Renault that can't be opened from inside when locked. Even the driver door. That boggled my mind.

Children belong on the backseat with engaged child safety on the doors.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

twistedmentat posted:

I remember when my dad got a car that would say "The Door is Ajar" when a door was open for more than 10 seconds. My sister and I thought it was hilarious.

:nws:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMxdFwCU1OE

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Lurking Haro posted:

I know a Renault that can't be opened from inside when locked. Even the driver door. That boggled my mind.

Children belong on the backseat with engaged child safety on the doors.

How are you supposed to get out?

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Imagined posted:

I feel like stuff like Google Glass and other AR gear will never catch on until it's so small that people can't even tell it's there, like built into contact lenses or indistinguishable from normal glasses, because it's pretty much a requirement for those things to have a camera and other sensors that are always on to be useful at all, but that (understandably) creeps people the gently caress out when they know it's there. The problem is sociological and not technological now.
"Why are you insisting on wearing your glasses while we have sex?"

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Instant Sunrise posted:

If your passenger seat load is heavy enough to set off the seatbelt sensor, it's probably heavy enough to do some real damage if it goes flying if you stopped suddenly.

Alternatively, use your trunk.

Why would an elephant have a bag?

Or a car?

Arrath
Apr 14, 2011


chitoryu12 posted:

How are you supposed to get out?

He said while locked. Presumably you hit unlock and then the handle works like normal.

Otherwise, hope you let the dealer up-sell you on the window breaker tool.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Instant Sunrise posted:

If your passenger seat load is heavy enough to set off the seatbelt sensor, it's probably heavy enough to do some real damage if it goes flying if you stopped suddenly.

Alternatively, use your trunk.

I had a laptop that would set off the seatbelt alarm and I realised that lugging that around was not good for my spine,

Also, as you say, having seen a satnav pinball around the dash after a minor tree-related sudden stop at only 30mph, I moved everything heavy to the footwell.

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Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Arrath posted:

He said while locked. Presumably you hit unlock and then the handle works like normal.

Otherwise, hope you let the dealer up-sell you on the window breaker tool.

The unlock button didn't work without a key in the ignition.

Even better, the owner only has one key and she once locked them inside (thanks autolock).
Only luck and some welding wire saved her a new window. The key happened to be button-side up and we poked it through the door seal until it opened.

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