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Plus a lot of that stuff takes time to coordinate, license and produce. I have a feeling Warner Bros. wasn't quite expecting Fury Road to be as amazing as it was until much later when they increased the budget for it. They probably just didn't care - why bother when they can make infinite $$$ off various Batman-related t-shirts and stuff. Unrelated, but this reminds me of the ways in which the publishing industry was rocked by Frozen. Disney was expecting it to make money of course but actually wasn't expecting it to completely explode the way it did, so they actually weren't ready regarding sending tons of art assets to publishers/ toy makers or with a Cars-level set up of toy licensing that kind of thing. So even to this day those companies that put out storybooks, posters, etc. had to put into place entire new departments whose literal full time purpose is just "Organizes Frozen Stuff" just to keep up because as soon as it blew up Disney wanted to catch up as soon as possible and rush more merchandise out. But as much as I'd love to work as a person who does nothing but organize and codify the world of Mad Max: Fury Road for 50 hours a week, the movie is a huge success even without the merchandise deluge. 
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It's strange that you focused on only 2 of the 4 examples of success I gave.
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Partly its just that audiences just don't blow up for stuff they blew up for in the 70s and 80s. I can't really think of a film that had the same level of impact as Star Wars or Jaws these days besides whatever the latest Marvel film is and that's partially down to pre-release marketing saturation. Same deal with the most recent Star Wars. The landscape of films is such that unless you have that incredibly expensive marketing train rolling way before the film comes out, its hard to garner the kind of public impact you're talking about these days. That said I kinda disagree, I think the fact that we're still talking about (and watching) Fury Road a year later, that every con has a bunch of Warboys and Joes wandering around and that any video with a car in it has a bunch of WITNESS ME comments on youtube, I'd say Fury Road made more of a cultural impact that you might be thinking. Not to mention any impact it has on film itself is yet to be felt, I'm pretty sure in the next year or two we're going to see more and more films ape its style and that's where you see many of Jaw's and Star War's successes.
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Why cookie Rocket posted:It's strange that you focused on only 2 of the 4 examples of success I gave. Is it?
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Also Star Wars really was unlike anything anyone had seen ever. It had antecedents in Kurosawa and Flash Gordon and so on but nobody had put the pieces together before. If there ever is "another Star Wars" it won't be a sci-fi action movie because we're used to that. It'll be some genre that was never big, done in a way that wasn't possible before, that appeals to people who would never watch that sort of thing otherwise. Like the biggest romantic comedy of all time or something equally left field.
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May 29, 2016 20:51
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Romantic comedy/horror
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I wish comedy/horror was a genre that was explored in more earnest. Cabin in the Woods was a masterpiece.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Also Star Wars really was unlike anything anyone had seen ever. It had antecedents in Kurosawa and Flash Gordon and so on but nobody had put the pieces together before. In terms of capturing imagination and creating new IP it was probably Harry Potter. It's going to be very interesting how they're going to grow that franchise in the future.
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Philip Rivers posted:I wish comedy/horror was a genre that was explored in more earnest. Cabin in the Woods was a masterpiece. You seen Slither or Tucker & Dale Vs Evil? I liked those.
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I still need to see Slither, thanks for reminding me of that one. Tucker & Dale is great too.
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Philip Rivers posted:I wish comedy/horror was a genre that was explored in more earnest. Cabin in the Woods was a masterpiece. Go watch Housebound, NZ-made comedy/horror. Really good.
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How do you bring up Kiwi comedy/horror and not talk about Braindead/Dead Alive?
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Also Black Sheep. NZ has some great comedy/horror. Also it's not really horror but What We Do In The Shadows is amazing.
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May 30, 2016 02:25
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Been a while since I've seen this movie. Slit still an rear end in a top hat?
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Still mediocre.
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I found out yesterday that I have sleep apnea, and I was given a nose mask to wear while I sleep. It looks like this: Last night, I put it on just before bed. My wife takes one look at me and yells "I had a baby brother! And he was  "
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Philip Rivers posted:I still need to see Slither, thanks for reminding me of that one. Tucker & Dale is great too. This probably isn't the best place for it, but if you bring up horror/comedy in the horror movie thread you'll end up with like 20 recommendations. I won't poo poo on Cabin in the Woods like some people, but if you're willing to go back into the 80's there's some great stuff there you may not have seen. Ever seen Return of the Living Dead? You haven't experienced real horror/comedy until you've seen that movie.
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The Zombie Guy posted:I found out yesterday that I have sleep apnea, and I was given a nose mask to wear while I sleep. It looks like this: Better to die a free man than live with that thing on your face imo
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Basebf555 posted:This probably isn't the best place for it, but if you bring up horror/comedy in the horror movie thread you'll end up with like 20 recommendations. I won't poo poo on Cabin in the Woods like some people, but if you're willing to go back into the 80's there's some great stuff there you may not have seen. yeah, there's a lot of good horror/comedy stuff out there. i was just trying to think of recent stuff. If you've not seen Ash Vs Evil Dead, it's pretty amazing. TV, not movie, but worth it.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Better to die a free man than live with that thing on your face imo sleep apnea is brutal. if it were me, i'd just wear the mask.
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The Zombie Guy posted:
You married the perfect woman!
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FrakkinCylon posted:You married the perfect woman! 
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Better to die a free man than live with that thing on your face imo You could just lose weight too I guess
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MMAgCh posted:I bet she makes him go full Erectus. Someone should have told him you never go full retard.
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Why cookie Rocket posted:You could just lose weight too I guess Alligator mouth is not always related to weight.
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Most weight loss occurs by breathing out CO2 so it usually helps.
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Reminds me of a different Tom Hardy movie if I'm honest. "Wheb Gothab is ashes... theb you hab by berbission to die."
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Maxwell Lord posted:Also Star Wars really was unlike anything anyone had seen ever. It had antecedents in Kurosawa and Flash Gordon and so on but nobody had put the pieces together before. We already had Titanic for romance. Out-of-left-field successes still happen, and hugely popular franchises still happen. But if anything, the difference is these days we expect the most successful films to be giant successes, to the point where you see partisans gauging the success of rival superhero outings by how many tens/hundreds of millions they rake in. To me, "another Star Wars" implies an unexpected cultural impact; which isn't really possible when we measure every film by metrics shaped by Star Wars. Harry Potter's success as a series of novels might actually be closer than is even possible in film at the moment.
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Just saw that this is coming back for a few more screenings this weekend at a local theatre. So I'm finally going to see it.
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Whoever said George Miller was basically making silent movies was spot on. I'm making my way through the first three Mad Max movies for the first time after finding a ridiculously cheap box set and Road Warrior needs what little dialogue it has even less than Fury Road does. My only weird complaint is that it feels wrong to watch these in crisp DVD quality on a huge flatscreen with the expectation of "I'm finally watching Mad Max!" They belong on lovely tiny tubes in the middle of the night where you happened to catch it ten minutes in and don't know what you're watching but by god you're getting hooked.
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So I just got to Beyond Thunderdome. What the gently caress.
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My Lovely Horse posted:So I just got to Beyond Thunderdome. Sounds about right.
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My Lovely Horse posted:So I just got to Beyond Thunderdome. I don't dislike Thunderdome, but the last time I watched it, it felt like it was two movies that got mashed together. Plus no Black on Black.
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"Two movies mashed together" is exactly what it feels like. And one of them's by Spielberg.
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Beyond Thunderdome, if nothing else, has amazing dialogue.
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Iron Crowned posted:I don't dislike Thunderdome, but the last time I watched it, it felt like it was two movies that got mashed together. Plus no Black on Black. It's because Miller left the project at one point, right? I think some friend of his died and he went into depression.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:It's because Miller left the project at one point, right? I think some friend of his died and he went into depression. Byron Kennedy died, George Miller's other half for the first two movies.
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I love Fury Road, definitely one of my favorite movies, but I guess I'll be in the minority by saying if people don't like it, that isn't necessarily anything negative on them. I know there was a lot of goon hype for this film, but dumping on people that didn't like it feels like a real No True Scotsman Fallacy "If you didn't like it then you have horrible taste in movies/nobody that actually cares about good movies would hate a movie like this". Personally, I liked it because Road Warrior was one of my favorite movies, and the idea of a film that is basically Road Warrior on Steroids is right up my alley. My wife considered it a better-than-average action film but didn't think it was necessarily amazing, and that's ok- we have different tastes.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Whoever said George Miller was basically making silent movies was spot on. I'm making my way through the first three Mad Max movies for the first time after finding a ridiculously cheap box set and Road Warrior needs what little dialogue it has even less than Fury Road does. This was the first time I saw the Road Warrior by the way. It was during the climactic tanker chase at the end and I got hooked. Also, I wish I knew how to edit video because I want to make a plinky-piano accompanied black and white silent film edit of Fury Road with sparsely placed title cards, namely "  WITNESS ME!" and 
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