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GaussianCopula posted:It looks like there is hope at last for Greece Would a return to monarchies really be a bad thing for Europe?
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Ilustforponydeath posted:Hell just do what the germans do, use them as 6 euro an hour slave labor in one of your monolith factories. It's 1 euro an hour. http://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/a1463370118256 ~6/hour is reserved a higher class of people such as German nationals working minijobs.
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Jun 2, 2016 08:08
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boom boom boom posted:Would a return to monarchies really be a bad thing for Europe? Perhaps it wouldn't, if you're talking about constitutional monarchies where the kings and queens are pure figureheads whose main function is to serve as a non-partisan, unifying symbol. But I don't think the Greek monarchy has ever functioned that way.
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Jun 2, 2016 08:41
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Pluskut Tukker posted:Perhaps it wouldn't, if you're talking about constitutional monarchies where the kings and queens are pure figureheads whose main function is to serve as a non-partisan, unifying symbol. But I don't think the Greek monarchy has ever functioned that way. No, those are stupid as poo poo. Britain spends millions to keep a gross family of racists in the lap of luxury. And if you ask why they'll be all, "they bring in tourist dollars" because god knows no one on earth would ever go visit a castle if there wasn't a mean looking old lady living in it, that's why the Louvre was knocked down and turned into a parking lot for abandoned cars decades ago. I mean an actual, proper monarchy.
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Jun 2, 2016 08:44
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Pluskut Tukker posted:Perhaps it wouldn't, if you're talking about constitutional monarchies where the kings and queens are pure figureheads whose main function is to serve as a non-partisan, unifying symbol. But I don't think the Greek monarchy has ever functioned that way. yes, the variety of head of state doesn't really say much in and of itself when taken out of context from its democratic content
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Jun 2, 2016 08:46
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boom boom boom posted:No, those are stupid as poo poo. Britain spends millions to keep a gross family of racists in the lap of luxury. And if you ask why they'll be all, "they bring in tourist dollars" because god knows no one on earth would ever go visit a castle if there wasn't a mean looking old lady living in it, that's why the Louvre was knocked down and turned into a parking lot for abandoned cars decades ago. the dutch have a constitutional monarchy and despite having to finance them exorbitantly, they do act as useful heads of state, specifically when dealing with other heads of state. instead of having a volatile prime minister with no pedigree, you have a longstanding old money monarch skilled in etiquette
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Jun 2, 2016 08:48
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SSJ2 Goku Wilders posted:the dutch have a constitutional monarchy and despite having to finance them exorbitantly, they do act as useful heads of state, specifically when dealing with other heads of state. instead of having a volatile prime minister with no pedigree, you have a longstanding old money monarch skilled in etiquette Can they declare war?
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Jun 2, 2016 08:49
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boom boom boom posted:Can they declare war? absolutely not. our lower and upper house decide on that according to article 96 of our constitution.
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Jun 2, 2016 08:50
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SSJ2 Goku Wilders posted:absolutely not. our lower and upper house decide on that according to article 96 of our constitution. Then what's the bloody point????!??!
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Jun 2, 2016 11:15
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double nine posted:Then what's the bloody point????!??! When they declare war the monarch has to lead the charge with sword in hand! They should probably update it for modern warfare.
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Jun 2, 2016 11:19
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double nine posted:Then what's the bloody point????!??! For the Dutch?
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Jun 2, 2016 11:24
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I've always wanted to be a king hey Goku can I sword fight your king for the throne?
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Jun 2, 2016 11:26
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http://openeurope.org.uk/daily-shak...d-pm/#section-5quote:According to a new Ipsos poll for Le Monde, French President François Hollande would win only 14% of the vote in the first round of the 2017 presidential election – meaning that he would not make it to the second round. The poll shows that, if former French President Nicolas Sarkozy were the centre-right candidate, Front National leader Marine Le Pen would win the first round with 28% of the vote – followed by Sarkozy on 21% and Hollande on 14%. If former Foreign Minister Alain Juppé were the centre-right candidate, he would win the first round with 35% of the vote – followed by Le Pen on 28% and Hollande on 14%. poor ol' francois just can't catch a break
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Jun 2, 2016 11:27
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Well maybe he should step down in disgrace like the failed little worm that he is.
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Jun 2, 2016 11:32
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Tesseraction posted:Well maybe he should step down in disgrace like the failed little worm that he is. Let's not resort to namecalling. The worms resent the association.
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Jun 2, 2016 11:34
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double nine posted:Let's not resort to namecalling. The worms resent the association. True, worms help create fertile soil. Hollande pissed on the crops.
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Jun 2, 2016 11:39
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Tesseraction posted:I've always wanted to be a king hey Goku can I sword fight your king for the throne? let's do it brother
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Jun 2, 2016 11:41
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boom boom boom posted:Would a return to monarchies really be a bad thing for Europe? The irony is that the Greek monarchs were basically just another from of Northern European dominance, first from a Bavarian house and later from a Danish-German house.
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Jun 2, 2016 11:42
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SSJ2 Goku Wilders posted:let's do it brother Meet me in Utrecht.
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Jun 2, 2016 11:45
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boom boom boom posted:No, those are stupid as poo poo. Britain spends millions to keep a gross family of racists in the lap of luxury. And if you ask why they'll be all, "they bring in tourist dollars" because god knows no one on earth would ever go visit a castle if there wasn't a mean looking old lady living in it, that's why the Louvre was knocked down and turned into a parking lot for abandoned cars decades ago. I'm thinking more of the Dutch model monarchy, where the king/queen annually reminds us all that we're all Dutch, regardless of skin colour or parentage, and that we should treat each other with respect. Particularly because it really pisses off Wilders (the politican, not the poster), since he can't pick a fight with the monarch and expect to win. Also, because the monarchy's a great excuse for a yearly party. boom boom boom posted:I mean an actual, proper monarchy. Yeah, that would be bad.
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Jun 2, 2016 11:48
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Being fair our monarchy tries to promote tolerance etc. too, it's just the papers that fawn over them so much conveniently omit it when those posharses say anything that isn't inane.
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Jun 2, 2016 11:55
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The Greek king was the first to try and get rid of the colonels in a failed counter-coup. As a reward after the colonels stepped down the monarchy was abolished and his private property seized.
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Jun 2, 2016 11:56
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Tesseraction posted:Being fair our monarchy tries to promote tolerance etc. too, it's just the papers that fawn over them so much conveniently omit it when those posharses say anything that isn't inane. The Duke of Edinburgh is famed around the globe for his promotion of tolerance.
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Jun 2, 2016 12:01
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forkboy84 posted:The Duke of Edinburgh is famed around the globe for his promotion of tolerance. That hell-dodging fossil is more a product of being 200 years old and not all there. Brenda, the important one, is lovely.
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Jun 2, 2016 12:04
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Riso posted:The Greek king was the first to try and get rid of the colonels in a failed counter-coup. As a reward after the colonels stepped down the monarchy was abolished and his private property seized. The colonels seized power in the first place because of friction between the palace and the elected government of the elder Papandreou (that is to say, Centre Union Papandreou, not PASOK founder Papandreou). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasia_of_1965 e; This, by the way, is also why non-constitutional monarchies are a bad idea. YF-23 fucked around with this message at 12:29 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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Jun 2, 2016 12:27
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Also, for once it wasn't the socialists who nicked all the stuff.
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Jun 2, 2016 12:32
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I read older Greeks feel corruption under the king was actually less severe than today.
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Jun 2, 2016 12:34
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Neoliberalism is the most corrupt form of capitalism, friend.
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Jun 2, 2016 12:37
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Tesseraction posted:Neoliberalism is the most corrupt form of capitalism, friend. No, that's always crony capitalism because it can happen in all forms, even keynesianism!
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Jun 2, 2016 12:41
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Tesseraction posted:Neoliberalism is the most corrupt form of capitalism, friend. Please explain to me how the Greek problems are caused by Neoliberalism and why you believe that the Greek state followed a neoliberal ideology before the crisis.
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Jun 2, 2016 12:41
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Riso posted:I read older Greeks feel corruption under the king was actually less severe than today. That's cool how you read that.
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Jun 2, 2016 12:56
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Riso posted:No, that's always crony capitalism because it can happen in all forms, even keynesianism! Neoliberalism is structural crony capitalism~ GaussianCopula posted:Please explain to me how the Greek problems are caused by Neoliberalism and why you believe that the Greek state followed a neoliberal ideology before the crisis. : Riso posted:I read older Greeks feel corruption under the king was actually less severe than today. Please tell me about your inability to perceive time.
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Jun 2, 2016 12:57
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GaussianCopula posted:Please explain to me how the Greek problems are caused by Neoliberalism and why you believe that the Greek state followed a neoliberal ideology before the crisis. what is your counter theory tbh?
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Jun 2, 2016 13:02
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http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/islamischer-staat-mutmassliche-is-zelle-in-deutschland-ausgehoben-a-1095484.htmlquote:Die Generalbundesanwaltschaft in Karlsruhe hat mittlerweile bestätigt, dass vier Männer aus Syrien an dem Terrorplan beteiligt gewesen sein. Zwei von ihnen, Saleh A. und Hamza C., seien bereits 2014 im Auftrag der IS-Führung aus Syrien in die Türkei gereist, 2015 dann kamen sie über die Balkanroute nach Deutschland. ... and people told me they would not use that route because of ~reasons~
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Jun 2, 2016 13:31
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who held refugees to a higher standard than other people?
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Jun 2, 2016 13:39
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Amid a divisive debate in Ukraine on state honors for nationalists viewed as responsible for anti-Semitic pogroms, the country for the first time observed a minute of silence in memory of Symon Petliura, a 1920s statesman blamed for the murder of 50,000 Jewish compatriots.
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Jun 2, 2016 15:14
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SSJ2 Goku Wilders posted:Amid a divisive debate in Ukraine on state honors for nationalists viewed as responsible for anti-Semitic pogroms, the country for the first time observed a minute of silence in memory of Symon Petliura, a 1920s statesman blamed for the murder of 50,000 Jewish compatriots. Way to burn some bridges with the EU.
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Jun 2, 2016 15:23
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And they blame Russia for giving their country a bad name.
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Jun 2, 2016 15:24
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waitwhatno posted:Way to burn some bridges with the EU. I dunno I bet Austria's considering fast-tracking their membership now.
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Pluskut Tukker posted:I'm thinking more of the Dutch model monarchy, where the king/queen annually reminds us all that we're all Dutch, regardless of skin colour or parentage, and that we should treat each other with respect. Particularly because it really pisses off Wilders (the politican, not the poster), since he can't pick a fight with the monarch and expect to win. Also, because the monarchy's a great excuse for a yearly party. People who think the heritage should make them rule over others are not really convincing saying we are all the same, though. There needs to be a Dutch Cromwell.
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