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Dead Reckoning posted:If you think that a policy is ineffective and has a negative effect on your life or the lives of others, I don't see opposing it, even if you agree with the goals it purports to address, as some grave sin. See also: drug prohibition, three strikes laws. Drug prohibition is not inherently bad. The "Drug War" is bad, but due to mismanagement and poorly thought out focus on the user, rather than the source.
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Dexo posted:Trump's response to anything Clinton says until the California primary ends should be; He could say that. OR https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/738449664752553984
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MariusLecter posted:Go on.
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It was only a matter of time. https://twitter.com/pryan/status/738446569331163136 Edit: maybe not his account? It's a verified account but not the @speakerRyan account. E2: I guess it's real! Rhesus Pieces fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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My Imaginary GF posted:I'd rather fight for economic justice which impacts 51% of voters than I would for a wedge issue which impacts less than .1% of voters. I am for LGBT rights -- dudes using womens bathrooms is not the loving hill to die on, it reeks of hippie dippy bullshit. You make other people die on the hill though. Normal people think it's hosed up to care about where people poo poo (because it is) and making the Republicans look like weird creeps (which they are) and treating a molehill* like it's the Alps means you can permanently shift people to your side by pointing to all the people who've died fighting over a molehill. Meanwhile, you've gotten people to at least look at your ideas in the actual battles for economic justice. Hippies are, were, and will continue to be for at least the next twenty years a natural (if you'll pardon the pun) and key element of the Democratic party and any punching of them only helps the Republicans. *The ability to not have to go find a special restroom (or worry about creeps following you in) is part and parcel of being a full citizen and not actually a molehill. The people who think economic justice is social justice have actually gotten it reversed. Social justice is economic justice, eventually.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:It was only a matter of time. https://twitter.com/BrendanBuck/status/738449872232316928
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zoux posted:He could say that. "I am sure he's writing tweets right now"
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Rhesus Pieces posted:It was only a matter of time. All shall bend the knee and wear the hat!
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zoux posted:He could say that. He is just so loving predictable at this point. It's almost not even worth making fun of anymore.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:He is just so loving predictable at this point. It's almost not even worth making fun of anymore. I was wrong on the blackjack and hookers, though. 
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noted staunch pro-lifer donald trump ryan is a craven, gutless coward
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Mozi posted:noted staunch pro-lifer donald trump They all are. Who's left, Romney? Kristol? Is Sasse still holding out? They'd all endorse a sack of manure with an R scrawled on it.
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Okay, so who had "June 2" in the Paul Ryan Cave betting pool?Shimrra Jamaane posted:He is just so loving predictable at this point. It's almost not even worth making fun of anymore. Yeah, his shtick is getting kind of old.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:It was only a matter of time. "I am confident that he will
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Mozi posted:noted staunch pro-lifer donald trump And you thought anything different about Ryan?
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Ahaqhahaha oh god, she left the stage to a sousa march
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Ahaqhahaha oh god, she left the stage to a sousa march i fuckin' loved it, i'm still tapping on my desk
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https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/738454668150374400 Consult the oracles!
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DemeaninDemon posted:And you thought anything different about Ryan? No, but it's good when things are laid out like that. Given his career you'd imagine he does care about Republican principles more than some other people (note that I still disagree strenuously with said principles,) so I hope he's going through at least some personal angst and self-hatred.
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Dead Reckoning posted:If we Have To Do Something For The Children, and our offered choices of ineffective, symbolic policy were either a pointless new assault weapon ban or security theater, I can see why gun owners favored the one that didn't affect them personally. Gun owners have nothing to fear if they aren't criminals. I don't see how this would affect them.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Is it too early to start thinking about who HRC will pick for VP? Last I checked good money was on one of the Castros.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Is it too early to start thinking about who HRC will pick for VP? Tim Kaine Julien Castro Sherrod Brown Deval Patrick Tom Perez Liz Warren Amy Klobachar
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Mozi posted:No, but it's good when things are laid out like that. Well, the problem is that doing what he wants to do (which is going on live TV and screaming "TRUMP IS GARBAGE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU???") would hurt the party. A lot. Which means his goals are even farther from being achieved. Also, it would destroy his career. But even if eh wanted to do the right thing, it would be counter to his goals.
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Is it too early to start thinking about who HRC will pick for VP? No doubt Bernie will say he is entitled to be VP cause of his enormous crowds.
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theflyingorc posted:Well, the problem is that doing what he wants to do (which is going on live TV and screaming "TRUMP IS GARBAGE, WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU???") would hurt the party. A lot. Which means his goals are even farther from being achieved. No, he picked his career over principle. The funny thing is picking his career here is going to cost him his career anyway.
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Mozi posted:No, but it's good when things are laid out like that. The man faked a photo shoot at a soup kitchen. He went from tongue punching Ayn Rand's squish mitten to "Never heard of her, loves me some Aquinas" with complete ease. He has no principles beyond personal power.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:No, he picked his career over principle. The funny thing is picking his career here is going to cost him his career anyway.
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Haha, two weeks ago all I was hearing about was Republican ethics in regards to not supporting "bad" candidates and maybe the Dems could learn something about being true to their convictions. I wonder if there will be any Never-Trumpsters left by the end of June. What a predictable joke. I mean Trump style Republicanism is pretty much the same as the standard just said in a more in your face and less dogwhistley manner so it's not surprising but wow it's impressive how little shame they all have. Can't wait for the Serious Economists to start talking about how Trump is the better alternative to Hillary because ??????. Stultus Maximus posted:The man faked a photo shoot at a soup kitchen. He went from tongue punching Ayn Rand's squish mitten to "Never heard of her, loves me some Aquinas" with complete ease. He has no principles beyond personal power. Seriously. Remember that soup kitchen almost shut down because after they said "please don't use us for political purposes, especially without telling us first, and ESPECIALLY not just barging in and setting up a photo op when we were closed" a lot of the Republicans that donated pulled their support. Ryan is total trash and I don't know people have to keep being reminded of this. Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jun 2, 2016 |
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If the Trump campaign ends up being as much of a disaster as we all think it is, these Trump endorsements are going to be serious political liabilities.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:also lol if you don't think this ryan release was timed to try and suck the air out of hillary's firebomb of trump They wasted a wild card then, because Prince's autopsy report is overshadowing both stories
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:I wonder if Paul Ryan actually thinks that Trump is going to win. Probably not, but he's an idiot fraud anyway. I think he thinks this will save him short-term and once they've disposed of Donald Trump that he can say "well i mean, if we'd nominated someone serious, like me because i am serious and important and stuff, then we would have beat mean old hillary"
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djw175 posted:Last I checked good money was on one of the Castros. But wasn't his name not even on that list of potentials that got leaked?
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Like they've learned absolutely nothing from losing in 2008 and 2012, and even less from their failure to do anything as a result of appeasing idiot in their party.
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The thing is... I saw a little bit of his Veterans press conference recently and I know calling the end of his campaign is a losing game so far but it seemed like the whole edifice was starting to come apart a bit. He truly is in over his head and has no idea of how to conduct a presidential (not primary) campaign. There's a segment of voters who will stick with him even stronger the more he's attacked but his uncontrollable aggressiveness and inability to keep himself from personally insulting people is going to become more and more of a problem. Not to mention, hey, has your wife ever accused you in court of raping her in a rage over a failed hair transplant? I can say no!
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Like they've learned absolutely nothing from losing in 2008 and 2012, and even less from their failure to do anything as a result of appeasing idiot in their party. They weren't conservative enough. Once they find a for reals conservative they'll win back the white house.
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