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Jose posted:i think you're reading the wrong manga. the hiatus starts when this fight ends and then we never get any more once the protagonist dies the manga is over
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K. Flaps posted:I don't care about life at all and hope it's over very soon.
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Jun 2, 2016 20:40
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 I wish this fights ends soon! 
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Stairmaster posted:once the protagonist dies the manga is over hisoka is going to win
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Jose posted:hisoka is going to win god, i hope so. It's looking dire
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Jun 2, 2016 21:31
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there are fights with gon/killua in the future to never see while chrollo dying doesn't really mean poo poo
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Jun 2, 2016 21:32
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theres now a hisoka spinoff done by the guy who did tokyo ghoul http://plus.shonenjump.com/client_info/SHUEISHA/html/player/viewer.html?tw=2&lin=1&cid=SHSA_JP01PLUSCP000699_57
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Jun 2, 2016 21:34
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Kild posted:theres now a hisoka spinoff done by the guy who did tokyo ghoul Wait seriously?
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Jun 2, 2016 21:51
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I love Sui Ishida, I love Hisoka
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Woah this is bad for Hisoka. He keeps losing more and more, and it isn't like he is doing mindgames, the chapter is from his perspective and we don't have evidence he is secretly planning a hidden strategy. He wanted to retreat using the ceiling and he couldn't. Hell, the only part where I still see a sliver for hope for him is the fact that the fight was so one-sided in favor of Chrollo. If they had been more in equal, and then finally Chrollo got the best of him, then ok, Hisoka dies. But it is so suspicious when it has been done like this. Hell my prediction of Hisoka using texture surprise in a important way still hasn't been successful, which similarly, it's suspicious. About the nen remover, I also thought at first the nen beast would have to be with the 'victim' of the removed Nen, Chrollo in this case, but I suppose it stayed with the Nen remover. I don't think the nen beast has be neutered with a Chrollo's ability, the beast is supposed to be more like a nen condition: to disappear only when the nen is nullified. I also misunderstood how Sun & Moon worked. So the signs aren't the ones that explore, the entire body marked by the sign blows up, even separate parts. That's so OP. You know, I'm starting to appreciate how smart has been Chrollo explaining his abilities at the start of the fight. At first it seemed so dumb we believed maybe it was a nen condition, but the fact he told what he told made him have control of how the fight occurred. First, there were some half-truths and some "omissions" so he truly didn't gave all the information, but in between truth and truth the missing parts were harder to see, and second feeding that information to Hisoka made him predictable. Chrollo predicted Hisoka's tactics because he know what he would do knowing A, B and C powers. For example, it was normal for Hisoka to remove heads from the puppets because it's the only way to stop them, and once they are removed, and because he has to be careful with nearby puppets that can explode, it also could be predicted for the heads to be used as projectile. So it seems Hisoka's played in Chrollo's hand. In summary, this fight gives me the feeling of what happened was Hisoka went to a duel, and Chrollo doesn't, Chrollo went to kill Hisoka with whatever method is best as otherwise he won't stop trying kill him. And that includes planting a pair of hundreds puppets with charged up sun and moon symbols in the audience and even nearby areas.
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Turin Turambar posted:About the nen remover, I also thought at first the nen beast would have to be with the 'victim' of the removed Nen, Chrollo in this case, but I suppose it stayed with the Nen remover. I don't think the nen beast has be neutered with a Chrollo's ability, the beast is supposed to be more like a nen condition: to disappear only when the nen is nullified. There are certain universal truths of how some more complex nen powers work between even different practitioners, which make me think certain things are universal, regardless of personal inclinations, (as opposed to Togashi maybe reusing some concepts, for instance) which is kind of interesting to me. Going by Abegane and the only Hunter exorcist, it seems some remnant of the removed nen always stays with the exorcist (making them a bit more like Sin Eaters I suppose). Manipulators work based on who hits a target first, both people we've seen who steal hatsu lose the ability when the original user dies. There were one or two other examples, but I'm blanking on them at the minute.
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That Hisoka got a spin off origin story and the way this fight is going, I am Extremely Concerned about murderclown
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Kild posted:theres now a hisoka spinoff done by the guy who did tokyo ghoul
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Rohan Kishibe posted:There are certain universal truths of how some more complex nen powers work between even different practitioners, which make me think certain things are universal, regardless of personal inclinations, (as opposed to Togashi maybe reusing some concepts, for instance) which is kind of interesting to me. Going by Abegane and the only Hunter exorcist, it seems some remnant of the removed nen always stays with the exorcist (making them a bit more like Sin Eaters I suppose). Manipulators work based on who hits a target first, both people we've seen who steal hatsu lose the ability when the original user dies. There were one or two other examples, but I'm blanking on them at the minute. Well, being able to kill the people you stole the ability would probably make it too easy; you need a lot of restrictions to steal, though Leol's was admittedly less complicated because his was more "borrowing". Though, who's the "only Hunter exorcist" you're referring to? The two exorcists I remember are Abengane and Hina (the ant girl), though I do feel like I could be forgetting a third. Hina does fit that however, given the huge belly she had after exorcising Cheetu. Turin Turambar posted:In summary, this fight gives me the feeling of what happened was Hisoka went to a duel, and Chrollo doesn't, Chrollo went to kill Hisoka with whatever method is best as otherwise he won't stop trying kill him. And that includes planting a pair of hundreds puppets with charged up sun and moon symbols in the audience and even nearby areas. Well, yeah. At the start Hisoka was musing on how Chrollo was avoiding him for so long, probably to get more abilities and such to deal with him. Hisoka walked right into Chrollo's trap, without any real preparation (there's no way he could have known all of Chrollo's abilities and such). Given how much this series is based on things like cleverness, out-thinking your opponent, and all that, Hisoka really deserves to lose this unless he has a gambit he's been keeping hidden or Chrollo does something monumentally stupid.
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Ah yeah Hina is a good example of what I'm thinking of too, well remembered. The Hunter Association only has one member who is a Nen Exorcist, she turns up for a little bit in the Chairman Election arc to see if she can heal Gon but she says that she couldn't handle such a crazy condition as he imposed on himself.
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Rohan Kishibe posted:Ah yeah Hina is a good example of what I'm thinking of too, well remembered. Yeah I think she more or less said that any Nen Exorcist that even tried would die on the spot.
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Rohan Kishibe posted:Ah yeah Hina is a good example of what I'm thinking of too, well remembered. Right, I remember now. I knew I remembered an exorcist freaking out over something but couldn't remember where or why. Thanks.
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Was there a typo in the Viz English translation of Chapter 80 when describing Hisoka's powers? The copy I have says that Hisoka's Bungee Gum cannot stretch more than 10 millimeters if it's not connected to his body but some online scan said 10 meters. I'm inclined to believe 10 meters since he used it on audience members during the current fight to bounce them back at Chrollo.
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yeah his card tricks and rock throwing he did before would be impossible if that was the case
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Fight feels like it's wrapping up to me. Probably gonna be another two, three chapters tops. Jeez though, Hisoka's getting wrung through the ringer. Machi ain't healing that.
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Bad Seafood posted:Fight feels like it's wrapping up to me. Probably gonna be another two, three chapters tops. She could stitch someone elses hand to his arm.
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Jun 3, 2016 04:05
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She should give him a foot where his hand was and a hand where his foot was.
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Bad Seafood posted:She should give him a foot where his hand was and a hand where his foot was. Or two more murder boners.
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Bad Seafood posted:She should give him a foot where his hand was and a hand where his foot was. Imagine how much more powerful and unpredictable that would make him. Dude can already pull all sorts of mind tricks, now he can also punch with his leg and kick with his hand. How the gently caress are you supposed to predict what this mad clown will do?
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Looking at this fight, I hope someday in the future, Togashi will let Chrollo finish the battle with Zeno+Silva.
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Abengane removes nen rather than dispelling it. It still exists until it is dispelled, but it can't do anything. Killing Genthru probably would have worked fine too. It wasn't clear if the creature always stuck to him or if it stuck to the guy he removed it from, since for the only example they were one and the same. But since Chrollo doesn't have a big ol' monster hanging off him it seems safe to say that it stays on Abengane. After all, Chrollo certainly hasn't dispelled Kurapika's nen chain, he just had Abengane make it harmless so the nen chain monster should still be around somewhere. It is still unclear if Kurapika was able to sense Abengane doing his thing.
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Serious Frolicking posted:It is still unclear if Kurapika was able to sense Abengane doing his thing. Kurapika told Killua back in the GI arc that he would've known if someone attempted to or was successful in removing his Nen.
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Disharmony posted:Kurapika told Killua back in the GI arc that he would've known if someone attempted to or was successful in removing his Nen. Yeah the part where the the nen isn't removed but more like displaced and transformed into the nen beast is a boon for Chrollo.
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Jun 3, 2016 06:38
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I still wanna see what Abengane looks like right now after this fight is over.
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Jun 3, 2016 06:43
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He performed the exorcist and the nen turned into youpi
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Disharmony posted:Kurapika told Killua back in the GI arc that he would've known if someone attempted to or was successful in removing his Nen. His nen still exists, just in a different form. I figure that may be enough of a difference that Kurapika may not know, though obviously he hasn't said anything either way. I don't think that he would start up a big, complex job if he knew that Chrollo could come looking for him at any time, either. There is nowhere to go on a boat, and none of the spiders would have any scruples about killing everyone on that boat to get to him.
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Serious Frolicking posted:After all, Chrollo certainly hasn't dispelled Kurapika's nen chain, he just had Abengane make it harmless so the nen chain monster should still be around somewhere. That's not 100 percent true it's possible that fulfilling the conditions of the nen chain might dispel it as well it's not like we ever got a full explanation on how it worked.
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Bad Seafood posted:I still wanna see what Abengane looks like right now after this fight is over. A theory I had this morning about him and the nen beast. Maybe you can just kill the beast, and that's what Chrollo did. It's just that he didn't want to do that, he seemed to be a "nature" hunter, doing some kind of shaman ritual with the doll made of vines and all that, so he was against violent agaisnt beasts, even summoned ones. drat my theory sounds dumber once I've written it.
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alkanphel posted:Looking at this fight, I hope someday in the future, Togashi will let Chrollo finish the battle with Zeno+Silva. 1. More Silva 2. Chrollo getting wrecked by a cool-rear end nen dragon But I would still prefer for Chrollo to just fuckin die here and now.
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Gallery fake can detect the copies it previously created. However, Chrollo doesn't have gallery fake out right now. He can only control them via verbal commands. So, Hisoka may be able to blend into the crowd with deceitful texture. I am doubtful that he can win at this point, but he at least needs to punch Chrollo in his dumb smug face.
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Why does everyone here hate Chrollo so much? I think he's a lot more interesting than Hisoka who always pulls wins out of his rear end with the power of rubber and gum.
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Otakufag posted:Why does everyone here hate Chrollo so much? I think he's a lot more interesting than Hisoka who always pulls wins out of his rear end with the power of rubber and gum. It's precisely because of the bolded. Chrollo on the other hand: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPA9bKz2meI
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Chrollo is a horrible monster for the sake of being a horrible monster. Hisoka is a horrible monster for the sake of feeding his murder boner. Hisoka is still somehow the more sympathetic of the two.
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If only Illumi was around to help Hisoka with crowd control using his needles to make mind slaves.....if that would even even work on the copies.
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Serious Frolicking posted:Chrollo is a horrible monster for the sake of being a horrible monster. Hisoka is a horrible monster for the sake of feeding his murder boner. Hisoka is still somehow the more sympathetic of the two. That's because Hisoka actually displays emotions. I mean okay the emotions are glee and arousal and both related to murder but they are there.
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