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Brainiac Five posted:They're Americans too, aren't they? The military are bigger tools than the GOP(that's kinda the point), they obeyed a muslim black guy from Africas for 7+ years , they're gonna bend the knee. Hope all that time playing Fallout 4 helps.
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PhazonLink posted:The military are bigger tools than the GOP(that's kinda the point), they obeyed a muslim black guy from Africas for 7+ years , they're gonna bend the knee. This is gibberish, but the idea of the military as an apolitical society of Cincinnatuses is a dangerous one that was a massive contribution to Vietnam and the War on Terror.
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Xanderkish posted:How much harder do you think she can go with these attacks? I'm curious. They haven't even started. Once Obama & Biden feel free to enter they'll be able to work a constant rotation along with Bernie too if he feels like jumping in. They haven't even touched their opposition research yet and who the gently caress knows what wonders we'll see come autumn.
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Jun 3, 2016 23:23
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Look at my African American over here!
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Jun 3, 2016 23:26
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Can't wait for Jerry Springer to host a debate of Hils v The Donald and see it devolve into face to face posturing and taunts from the audience.
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Jun 3, 2016 23:27
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Trabisnikof posted:Look at my African American over here! https://twitter.com/ChrisMegerian/status/738857765200748544 
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Jun 3, 2016 23:34
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Yiggy posted:So well spoken. So articulate.
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Jun 3, 2016 23:41
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Jesus Christ. Also RE: Trump attacks. Keep in mind that we haven't even begun to see the opposition research attacks. On top of that Trump has disallowed his people from doing their own oppo research on himself. So any attack Clinton digs up, and there's going to be plenty, will have little to no damage control plans for then. He's going to be blindsided daily and left swinging at air.
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Jun 3, 2016 23:43
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Everyone room has at least one, am I right? And that ones ours.
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Jun 3, 2016 23:45
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Brainiac Five posted:This is gibberish, but the idea of the military as an apolitical society of Cincinnatuses is a dangerous one that was a massive contribution to Vietnam and the War on Terror. The military disobeying the elected civilian executive is usually Really Bad.
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Jun 3, 2016 23:46
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sean10mm posted:The military disobeying the elected civilian executive is usually Really Bad. I'm glad there's at least a few soldiers who would refuse to commit war crimes. Shows the American armed forces are at least potentially amenable to education to enhance their political moral state.
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Jun 3, 2016 23:48
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Crain posted:b] Trump has disallowed his people from doing their own oppo research on himself[/b]. ... wait, what? Really? -REALLY-? Why have none of his handlers tackled him and gone 'no you loving dolt'?
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Crain posted:Jesus Christ. Also this opposition research was started during the clusterfuck of a primary the GOP had. So the Dem machine at least planned for the worst case scenario. edit: Two cents on the Trump's "Amazing, how civilized these non whites can be." We're going to get PhazonLink fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Jun 3, 2016 23:55
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Goons, I know we were all worried the Republican National Convention was missing something, that one something to make it special, but we couldn't figure out what it was. Good news! Turns out it was Rage Against the Machine, Public Enemy, and Cypress Hill:quote:Political activist Tom Morello says that he’s got big plans for his new musical project, and they involve throwing a wrench in the Republican National Convention come this July.
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Jun 3, 2016 23:59
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remember when rage against the machine spoke out against paul ryan after he mentioned that he was a fan of theirs
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Brainiac Five posted:I'm glad there's at least a few soldiers who would refuse to commit war crimes. Shows the American armed forces are at least potentially amenable to education to enhance their political moral state. I might have just lost the thread of this conversation, but there is obeying illegal orders to commit war crimes like Trump has said he would give (which is wrong both legally and morally), and then there is the military being disobedient because they just think the president is a shithead in general (which would not be good, but some people seem to advocate anyway.)
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Jun 4, 2016 00:10
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Having to obey Trump in any capacity should be considered a war crime.
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sean10mm posted:The military disobeying the elected civilian executive is usually Really Bad.  Usually.
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Senf posted:Trump today in Redding, CA: It's amazing how he uses the same loving line with a couple words swapped out for 90% of his statements. "There's nobody with a better [Thing] than me. I have the greatest [Thing] there is. My [Thing] is totally [verb/adjective], so [verb/adjective]." You could make a Trump Statement Generator pretty easily. Shillary posted:SCOTUS already said bribery doesn't exist, so nothing will come of it. Yet another reason to be glad Scalia's dead (though Roberts might actually be the worst offender on the bench) since with any luck Garland or whomever Clinton nominates won't be quite as "lol currption" as the conservatives have been and maybe. just maybe, we could actually one day see political corruption charges as more than a once-in-a-blue-moon thing.
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citybeatnik posted:... wait, what? Really? -REALLY-? Why have none of his handlers tackled him and gone 'no you loving dolt'? Because then you're out on your ear. The man is not going to take direction. At least not on certain topics, and his image is on the top of that list. His image is 100% of his worth. He exists to be seen as a rich, high living, bougy motherfucker. He cannot stand the thought of someone generating an unauthorized and curated profile of himself, to the detriment of his own interests. Prester Jane and I think jomentum said it last month but the trump campaign is
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boom boom boom posted:Seriously? That could be pretty loving troubling, if the military is saying that they'll ignore the orders of the elected Commander in Chief. Unless it's a very specific, "we won't obey orders that violate the constitution" sort of thing. But even so, the military should not be commenting on civilian elections. That was it. Trump said he'd order the military to do things he didn't realize were war crimes.
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Zas posted:the military is already saying they're not going to cooperate with trump. and hell that was before all the 'blowing up nato' stuff. In the grand scheme of things, the military handily supports Trump anyway, which is concerning on an entirely different and much more serious level. I'm having a difficult time coming up for a rationale for that that isn't wildly offensive to the troops.  http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/05/09/military-times-survey-donald-trump-beats-hillary-clinton/84132402/
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That's not really surprising. Trump appeals to people who prefer hierarchical authority structures and those people also join the military in large numbers.
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boom boom boom posted:Is there a thread about the surge in anti-woman violence? We had one. You used to post in it. It got destroyed by butt hurt SASS plants. E: lol at salty goons mad at TB. She's bein way, way loving nicer than she should be and actually has something to say. You gonna demand pictures of her hands next? Armani fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Crain posted:Jesus Christ. Is there a source for this? I'd like to read it first hand
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nachos posted:Is there a source for this? I'd like to read it first hand http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/trump-said-no-opposition-research-vetting
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^^fucker!^^nachos posted:Is there a source for this? I'd like to read it first hand nachos posted:Is there a source for this? I'd like to read it first hand http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2016/05/trump-said-no-opposition-research-vetting It's specifically about his early campaign, so things may have changed, but there's been no indication of that yet. Not that it would necessarily be a news story. But the fact that a major party candidate refused to have himself professionally vetted by his own people speaks volumes about how he is planning on running things. Even if he later goes back and does it.
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I wonder what this will look like in a month when the convention rolls around.
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Aerox posted:In the grand scheme of things, the military handily supports Trump anyway, which is concerning on an entirely different and much more serious level. I'm having a difficult time coming up for a rationale for that that isn't wildly offensive to the troops. Hahaha Military Times An "independent" military magazine whose subscribers trend heavily male and heavily conservative compared to the armed forces as a whole.... blasting an email to those subscribers. Utter trash. http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/05/09/military-times-survey-donald-trump-beats-hillary-clinton/84132402/ posted:The results, while not a scientific sampling of military voting patterns (see our methodology below)[...] 
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:remember when rage against the machine spoke out against paul ryan after he mentioned that he was a fan of theirs one of my favorite posts of the 2012 cycle was something like "Paul Ryan, backstage before the debate, closes his eyes and turns on "Close Your Eyes (And Count To gently caress)""
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Geoff Peterson posted:Hahaha Military Times Thank god. For some reason I thought MT was at least semi-legit and widely read among military members.
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Geoff Peterson posted:Hahaha Military Times Yeah, I agree that's pure bullshit, though the white males in the military do skew conservative, and have done so a long time. The women and gays and minorities, of which there are a lot, are presumably a different story.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:remember when rage against the machine spoke out against paul ryan after he mentioned that he was a fan of theirs No because who cares what they think. Aerox posted:Thank god. For some reason I thought MT was at least semi-legit and widely read among military members. Read yes, subscribed, no.
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Aerox posted:In the grand scheme of things, the military handily supports Trump anyway, which is concerning on an entirely different and much more serious level. I'm having a difficult time coming up for a rationale for that that isn't wildly offensive to the troops. yeah I wasn't very specific, but I tried to clear it up in subsequent pages
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Goons, I know we were all worried the Republican National Convention was missing something, that one something to make it special, but we couldn't figure out what it was. Good news! Turns out it was Rage Against the Machine, Public Enemy, and Cypress Hill: snarknado • 2 hours ago Taking down capitalism one $75 general admission ticket at a time.
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An awfully done poll of the military still showing that roughly 50% are non-Trumpers is reason to celebrate IMHO.  EDIT: or at the very least not wring our hands
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Quick now do one of only those involved with the Air Force Academy.
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Impermanent posted:That's not really surprising. Trump appeals to people who prefer hierarchical authority structures and those people also join the military in large numbers. We should really just draft people randomly at 18 from every class, social group, whatever to fill the demand for soldiers. Give them the yuugest best GI bill we can muster, and we normalize the culture of the military and give a cross section of society a non controversial leg up from the government. It'll just be like Americorps with assault rifles, something young people do before life really begins. "Service guarantees citizenship"! MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Arrgytehpirate posted:Who the gently caress said biology is a soft science? That poo poo is rough. I've heard this from guys when I was going through engineering school. jokes on them, though. The guy who I know with bio PhD does way more number crunching than I ever dreamed of in engineering school.
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