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This is kinda interesting: http://masteroverwatch.com/heroes Points: - reminds me why I play Lucio when I want to win - I should really start getting comfortable with Symmetra - Mercy win rate 48%, lol wut  - I'm not sure if I should read something into those score per minute numbers... Lucio off the charts, Zen and Hog really god, Zarya and Mei pretty low... - also shows how much of a drag the "bad genjis" are, because the good genjis will curve those numbers way up
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Bolivar posted:This is kinda interesting: Don't worry, somebody will be along to tell you all those stats are meaningless for some reason or another. (I would guess Symmetra and Tor are higher than average win rates because they tend to only get played on specific maps).
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Chewbot posted:Don't worry, somebody will be along to tell you all those stats are meaningless for some reason or another. Yeah I kind of didn't even mention that all stats are meaningless unless you can read them. That's why I didn't even say anything about Torbjörn because that's just understanding that he excels WHEN he excels.
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Jun 4, 2016 05:04
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Numbani pub game offense: 4 Reinhardts, a lucio and a mercy: we smash through them like paper Same Numbani pub game defense: 4 Mei's, a lucio and a mercy: we completely lock them out of the point with a never ending hell of ice and snow Pubs are the best
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Every group of goons I play with always have so much trouble with double torbs or a bastion rein combo Myself included but goddamn all we have 20some other heroes to pick and we all are in discord get it together! Also shoutout to the 1am to 6am crew we had last night goddamn so many games
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Jun 4, 2016 05:09
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Solumin posted:I'm pretty sure Lucio's ult (and Reinhardt's too) doesn't activate until he actually hits the ground with his weapon. Kind of a small but cool detail. I've had this happen before, where while I'm ulting as Reinhardt a concussion mine sends me up into the air or something and then the actual earthshatter doesn't come out until I land.
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Jun 4, 2016 05:10
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Mortimer posted:goon_games.mp4 drat that's salty but it sounds like he maybe should kill himself for not ulting tbf.
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Jun 4, 2016 05:11
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I finally got a good use out of Dragonstrike, even though I pretty much never play Hanzo. I was just outside the Nepal: Village control point and I blasted it through the wall at near point-blank range so that there was little time to react, and then I pegged the survivors who were running away from it. Triple kill and Play of the Game (My fourth today). I should play Hanzo a bit more.
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I know I said this before, but I feel like if you look at the design of the last points of all the defense maps, they're fine and interesting and offer ways in for the offensive team and are often as good or better than the first points, which are fine but the spawn is so close and the spawn timers so low that anything less than a decisive full wipe of the defense will get cleaned up by defenders spawning back in again, which means you generally can't break them in a pub unless the teams are one sided.
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Defenders need an increase in spawn time. It seemed wierd to me that I can spawn up just as quickly as some guy who has to walk 10-15 seconds to a point and I've been there for like 8 once they arrive. Would probably make that insane stupid fast Overtime timer slightly more manageable. As it is it's really dumb for literally a whole team possibly have 10 seconds to get from spawn past defenses and onto a point in a manner that is actually effective.
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verbal enema posted:Defenders need an increase in spawn time. That's how TF2 did it. TF2 also spawned people in waves to force them to accidentally do teamwork instead of running one-at-a-time into the defending team's meatgrinder.
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I'm having a hard time finding a reason to justify any other healer over Mercy when in a tough game. Lucio is so cool and Zen is definitely different and interesting, but Mercy just out performs all of them in a pinch. Its so frustrating to have a really good Lucio or Zen and still get rolled because they have that all important res or that clutch heal at the crucial moment. She has more mobility than Zen and has more actual heal than Lucio. I don't know how to fix it, but it just seems that if you're going to have a healer, it has to be Mercy otherwise you're at a disadvantage against an equally competent Mercy on the other team. Edit re: Spawntimes: Yeah its frustrating to dominate a team for 95% of the match, team kill them, then they come back and are RIGHT THERE at the point by the time you get there and lose because of timing. Frustrating as hell. I don't know if they need longer spawn times or what, but it definitely is frustrating to have that handicap for a team getting dominated. Jastiger fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:That's how TF2 did it. I am however amazed respawns aren't wave-based, yeah. It's been mentioned before but all it really accomplishes is giving an easy win (or at least rapid advancement through the map) to the first team that cripples the other, since they can then easily handle the enemy trickling in 1-2 at a time.
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lazorexplosion posted:I know I said this before, but I feel like if you look at the design of the last points of all the defense maps, they're fine and interesting and offer ways in for the offensive team and are often as good or better than the first points, which are fine but the spawn is so close and the spawn timers so low that anything less than a decisive full wipe of the defense will get cleaned up by defenders spawning back in again, which means you generally can't break them in a pub unless the teams are one sided. Yeah, defense maps are generally only won on one condition: "How many ults can you spam to wipe the enemy team?"
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Jun 4, 2016 05:46
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Why do I keep trying to play the joke character, Dan Va?
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chumbler posted:Why do I keep trying to play the joke character, Dan Va? cause deep in your heart you know that you are an anime pro gamer waifu mecha pilot
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causticBeet posted:Dear blizz please steal 5cp it's a good game mode I think Yes let's take the same player base that can't figure out "stand behind the rectangle" and "flankers don't work without a front line" and give them an incredibly complex game mode with lots of back and forth and strategy.
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Mortimer posted:goon_games.mp4
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Sanctum posted:I like how your other 2 teammates went off chasing the reaper with <30s remaning while you and mccree were pushing. I play Pharah a lot, he pretty much did all he could. That video almost makes me angry.
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Away all Goats posted:cause deep in your heart you know that you are a 
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PerrineClostermann posted:Confirming Zarya is loving incredible when the team stays somewhat close together. Zarya is the greatest "this team is silly; how can I make that work for me in a way that also fills the tank that nobody else picked" pick. Roadhog charges into people instead of hooking them? gently caress it, we'll make it work. Instapick Tracer charges directly into 4 and forgets to press E? gently caress it, here's 2 extra seconds to press E, godspeed you black emperor. I've even taken to picking her over guilt-picking solo healer just because 200 shields is a lot and teams that steadfastly refuse to pick healer generally don't control the health packs too well either.
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Willie Tomg posted:Zarya is the greatest "this team is silly; how can I make that work for me in a way that also fills the tank that nobody else picked" pick. And teams that steadfastly refuse to pick healer don't protect the person who does.
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Willie Tomg posted:Zarya is the greatest "this team is silly; how can I make that work for me in a way that also fills the tank that nobody else picked" pick. Picking Zarya is better than picking a healer in solo queue because you get power from your teammates uselessly dying even with your shields and can then win the game on your own. Going with a normal healer is gambling.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:And teams that steadfastly refuse to pick healer don't protect the person who does. 
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I got more hours as Soldier than as Lucio because I can kinda maybe do stuff in a bad team when I play Soldier. I should try Zarya more often. Really, I should just pick Winston for a change, he's good and I have like 20min played as him.
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Sometimes, just sometimes, I'm alright at this game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-uAdhJ8WGo Some guy from the other team was really pissed off I dooted him off point when he was about to contest in overtime and we won that round. 
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Edmond Dantes posted:Sometimes, just sometimes, I'm alright at this game. a good private video
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Nehru the Damaja posted:a good private video  I'm new at this youtube stuff. Should be good now.
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My Reinhardt looks good in his t6 epic gear. It's my first yellow thing. I love it and I loved playing Reinhardt anyway.
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Reinhardts in pub games are the worst. If you're playing him then your dumb team tries their damnedest to run as far away from the shield as possible. If your teammate is playing him he will always drop his shield to throw a flamestrike or hit some random poo poo with a hammer right when an enemy ults and your team will get wiped.
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If the enemy team is playing him he drops his shield right after the ults finish, charges, threads the needle between your team perfectly to tackle you--the Mercy guiltpick--before turning around, ulting, and scoring a quadra elim. See also: Shacos in Barely Legal Legends (friendly shaco is always trash, enemy shaco is invariably the one prick who can get results with the weird gimmick pick. except Reinhardt is actually very very good, unlike Shaco)
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lazorexplosion posted:I know I said this before, but I feel like if you look at the design of the last points of all the defense maps, they're fine and interesting and offer ways in for the offensive team and are often as good or better than the first points, which are fine but the spawn is so close and the spawn timers so low that anything less than a decisive full wipe of the defense will get cleaned up by defenders spawning back in again, which means you generally can't break them in a pub unless the teams are one sided. I think a good solution would be to increase defense spawn timers as points get capped. Its already a crazy long run from spawn ->Poiny A on a lot of maps for defenders. If you increased defense spawn times from the start a Symmetra would be basically mandatory. Increasing them by a few seconds for each point Offense caps might work well.
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Tequila Sunrise posted:I think a good solution would be to increase defense spawn timers as points get capped. Its already a crazy long run from spawn ->Poiny A on a lot of maps for defenders. If you increased defense spawn times from the start a Symmetra would be basically mandatory. 
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~_~ Why doesn't Mercy's revive put D.Va back in her mecha? It's pretty lame being revived and immediately killed without anything you can do about it because you revived in your 150 HP form. She even gets a fully-charged mecha suit ready to deploy, she just doesn't start in it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Grj5d95NyY Even Zarya gets to play with pits
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Cephas posted:~_~ Why doesn't Mercy's revive put D.Va back in her mecha? It's pretty lame being revived and immediately killed without anything you can do about it because you revived in your 150 HP form. She even gets a fully-charged mecha suit ready to deploy, she just doesn't start in it. Please don't nerf a D.Va revived by Mercy.
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Just got the game and played a few games. game is good, I approve That being said, I now can't connect to the BNet login server. I'm playing on PC and my internet connection seems fine. Anyone have any ideas?
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:Reinhardts in pub games are the worst. When it clicks it's amazing though. Walking up and watching you team kill a bunch of people, then charging when there's 3 left and slapping people around with your hammer. It's just so satisfying. Also taking out a widowmaker with a flamestrike from long range will never stop being hilarious. Reinhardt, Lucio, Soldier 76, the holy trinity of guys I like to play.
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