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Also FYI I banned satanism in Ireland in the new one and got a popularity boost. So that's all Working As Intended
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Jun 3, 2016 23:20
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corn in the bible posted:Also FYI I banned satanism in Ireland in the new one and got a popularity boost. So that's all Working As Intended Wonder what happens if you ban satanism in Norway.
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Cantorsdust posted:Wonder what happens if you ban satanism in Norway. -10% price for electric guitar trade goods
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On the topic of Victoria II, I've been trying to get the New World Order mod to run but it keeps crashing whenever I select a country. I've deleted the map cache everywhere I can find over and over again but it keeps crashing at the "Loading History" point. The main game works and so does NNM, it's just this one mod. Did I forget to download something with it?
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Kavak posted:On the topic of Victoria II, I've been trying to get the New World Order mod to run but it keeps crashing whenever I select a country. I've deleted the map cache everywhere I can find over and over again but it keeps crashing at the "Loading History" point. The main game works and so does NNM, it's just this one mod. Did I forget to download something with it? I've been playing that too, and I didn't have that problem at least. Did you download the latest nightly from github? https://github.com/simsulla/nwomod because thats what I did and it loads fine (though if you play as france or england it'll still crash if you try to release any nations).
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Victoria II is the pinnacle of Janky strategy games. Paradox has yet to, and probably won't, top it.
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corn in the bible posted:I've been playing that too, and I didn't have that problem at least. Did you download the latest nightly from github? https://github.com/simsulla/nwomod because thats what I did and it loads fine (though if you play as france or england it'll still crash if you try to release any nations). I tried that and it still crashes at the same point. I wish Victoria 2 had a debug log like Darkest Hour's, the error log is blank. EDIT: The flags in Victoria 2 vanilla are messed up, but NNM runs fine so I don't know why it's affecting the other mod. Kavak fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Jun 4, 2016 08:11
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https://twitter.com/Steam_Spy/status/738463579112886272 Someone doesn't want the HoI4 launch to tank their shareholder value
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GaussianCopula posted:https://twitter.com/Steam_Spy/status/738463579112886272 Or someone wants to inflate their sales figures and has something to hide. Either way, a suspect move to say the least.
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mackintosh posted:Or someone wants to inflate their sales figures and has something to hide. Either way, a suspect move to say the least. Equating owners with sales has the impact of massively inflating sales figures and that's what Paradox are complaining about - people look at steam_spy and then get an unrealistic impression of their business. e: \/\/ the steam price is not the price everyone pays by a very long shot Alchenar fucked around with this message at 13:29 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Alchenar posted:Equating owners with sales has the impact of massively inflating sales figures and that's what Paradox are complaining about - people look at steam_spy and then get an unrealistic impression of their business. I don't get it, other than unredeemed gifts isn't the relationship 1:1?
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Jun 4, 2016 13:22
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It doesn't calculate if a game was sold under a sale or not, I assume.
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Alchenar posted:Equating owners with sales has the impact of massively inflating sales figures and that's what Paradox are complaining about - people look at steam_spy and then get an unrealistic impression of their business. But Steamspy only states that there are "x owners of game y on steam". It's not like anyone suggests that every single unit of the game was sold for the regular US-Steam price?
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Jun 4, 2016 13:35
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After Seeing Sabaton live yesterday I demand a music DLC for HoI4 and ask them to make some Clausewitz engine songs, thanks! Making some event references with them would be cool as hell too, they are good people.
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Tahirovic posted:After Seeing Sabaton live yesterday I demand a music DLC for HoI4 and ask them to make some Clausewitz engine songs, thanks! It's already been unofficially leaked that there will be a Sabaton music DLC. Hell they even have a (good) song called Hearts of Iron already. But really though, just queue up their albums in Spotify for free while you play like normal people do.
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GaussianCopula posted:But Steamspy only states that there are "x owners of game y on steam". I'm pretty sure the idea here is "people are too stupid to understand the data properly, so we're taking it away from them".
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Steam Stats are mostly benign, this is indeed suspicious and it is most likely to have greater control of the data provided to shareholders.
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TheMcD posted:I'm pretty sure the idea here is "people are too stupid to understand the data properly, so we're taking it away from them". What harm is created by people interpreting the data wrongly though that warrants the removal?
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GaussianCopula posted:What harm is created by people interpreting the data wrongly though that warrants the removal? It's just narrative control.
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GaussianCopula posted:What harm is created by people interpreting the data wrongly though that warrants the removal? Uh, when people make commercial decisions based on that data that impacts Paradox? This isn't hard to grasp. e: I mean literally any business anywhere would be concerned about someone putting out inaccurate information about their turnover. e2: moreover Sergey understands this which is why he agreed to remove the Paradox info when he was under literally no obligation to do so. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 14:27 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Shams Jorjani tweeted something about knowing people who have actually put together serious business plans that end up flawed because they are based on steam spy data. So it's all perfectly understandable right about now. 
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People sometimes interpret information incorrectly. The reasonable response to this is to restrict access to information. Hmmm.... Also lol at everybody who said going public wouldn't negatively impact pdx's games *shoves a hotly anticipated (but half finished) game out the door a week before the IPO* lol communism bitch fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Jun 4, 2016 |
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Oberleutnant posted:Also lol at everybody who said going public wouldn't negatively impact pdx's games *shoves a hotly anticipated (but half finished) game out the door a week before the IPO* lol Which as we all know has never been a problem for Paradox releases in the past.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Which as we all know has never been a problem for Paradox releases in the past. The whole story of paradox in the last few years was them cleaning their act up and releasing stable, functioning games that didn't require months of patches just to get working to the minimum acceptable standard. I been playing these games since ck1, I remember the bad old days.
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And there is no difference now.
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The national focus trees in hoi4 are so obviously designed to shove dlc into....
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Oberleutnant posted:The whole story of paradox in the last few years was them cleaning their act up and releasing stable, functioning games that didn't require months of patches just to get working to the minimum acceptable standard. They did got better, but most DLCs (at least for CK2) still always ship with broken stuff, awful bugs and terrible unbalances, and require a patch or 2 to be really in shape
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Jesus christ some of you people need some serious tinfoil hats! You're seriously reading way too much into a fairly benign move pretty much solely to vilify Paradox, they're not exactly the devil you know?
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corn in the bible posted:The national focus trees in hoi4 are so obviously designed to shove dlc into.... You could say the same of national ideas in Europa 4.
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Gort posted:You could say the same of national ideas in Europa 4. Yes. Though national ideas in eu4 did not replace the entire decision system
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oscarthewilde posted:Jesus christ some of you people need some serious tinfoil hats! You're seriously reading way too much into a fairly benign move pretty much solely to vilify Paradox, they're not exactly the devil you know?
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corn in the bible posted:Yes. Though national ideas in eu4 did not replace the entire decision system i think gort's point is that all of the national ideas in eu4 are free patch features, so maybe it's a bit too soon to assume that the similar hoi4 national focus trees will be paid content.
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The level of betrayal I felt when Paradox removed their games from SteamSpy tore something from me that I'll never be able to recover. They tore away my ability to respect anything, and they tore away my ability to feel human.
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They've said national focuses are gonna be paid DLC (mostly at least), they're a lot more work than idea groups. Not really seeing the problem though. It doesn't have the TW issue where when they release it as DLC the country gets locked out of modding.
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GaussianCopula posted:https://twitter.com/Steam_Spy/status/738463579112886272 Paradox's response to this is "Steam Spy isn't accurate"
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Kavak posted:Kaiserreich's national focuses will not be paid DLC Any estimate on when work will start on Kaiserreich II? Or is that up to other developers as well?
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Lustful Man Hugs posted:Any estimate on when work will start on Kaiserreich II? Or is that up to other developers as well? It's technically already begun, but it's just people who got into the beta who offered to help- I imagine things like the map will be done fairly quick after game release, but god knows how long the focus trees will take. A lot of the older developers are probably going to stick with Darkest Hour, but lore work should translate pretty much 1:1 between the versions. For my part, I have to get a serious computer upgrade before I can even play HoI IV- anybody got about a thousand dollars they can spare? 
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PleasingFungus posted:The level of betrayal I felt when Paradox removed their games from SteamSpy tore something from me that I'll never be able to recover. They tore away my ability to respect anything, and they tore away my ability to feel human. Same, even though I've never even heard of steam spy before reading about it here
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