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Ariel Helwani is passionate about making every interview he's ever done about himself
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Jun 6, 2016 18:32
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-Atom- posted:Ariel Helwani is passionate about making every interview he's ever done about himself Did you watch the 1 hour long Nate Diaz interview which is easily one of the best interviews of a fighter ever done?
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Jun 6, 2016 18:34
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-Atom- posted:Ariel Helwani is passionate about making every interview he's ever done about himself Exactly.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:34
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projecthalaxy posted:Mr Helwani, you stand accused of taking yourself seriously and possibly even taking pride in your work. How do you plead? I think it's good to have professionalism in your job, but Ariel does not come off as professional in many interactions especially when he tries to build up fake heat between him and random UFC jobbers, or when he starts bloviating about how much he hates April Fools or whatever is bothering him. There is nothing wrong with how he is since MMA is not a real sport and sometimes his goofiness just works considering how ridiculous fighters can be at times, but Ariel should not carry himself like he's the next coming of Woodward and Bernstein because he's not. -Atom- posted:Ariel Helwani is passionate about making every interview he's ever done about himself Yeah.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:34
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Work Friend Keven posted:If you say gently caress boy I think you are a legit piece of poo poo, either have the balls to say human being like you want to or actually be polite instead of saying the special millenial way to say human being. i didn't realise that's what it was for, i always assumed it was the new asshat or batshit insane of the "gross" generation anyway brock trained for years before his debut. you have k-1 founder ishii to thank for him.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:35
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Ariel Helwani doesn't make every interview about himself. He also makes them about beards or shoes.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:37
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You know when you have someone that repeatedly annoys you with little mistakes/acts and by the 5th time you've lost all patience and show frustration? They don't understand why you freaked out over the one, tiny thing they did at the end and think you should just relax. That's Ariel.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:39
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Le Saboteur posted:Did you watch the 1 hour long Nate Diaz interview which is easily one of the best interviews of a fighter ever done? or just an hour of nate diaz saying entertaining poo poo like he always does. Give me skype and an hour with him and I will get you the same quality. "hey nate just two questions - would you like a shot at the belt and also whos on steroids?" set my alarm for a hour later and take a siesta whilst I get the interview of the decade.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:39
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mistakinder posted:or just an hour of nate diaz saying entertaining poo poo like he always does. Give me skype and an hour with him and I will get you the same quality. Its also an example of how smart of an interviewer he is though, not a lot of people would know to sit back and let Nate go in that scenario. He's done tons of greats interviews like that, his walk arounds with Michael Bisping being up there as well. He also does a ton of dumb poo poo becauses he's basically a blogger who got upgraded to an MMA "journalist" when the sport got huge. What Ariel is doing right now is important no matter how you feel about him. The UFC should not be allowed to strong arm ANY writer no matter how you feel about them for reporting news they've confirmed with their sources. Thats loving ridiculous.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:42
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Le Saboteur posted:Did you watch the 1 hour long Nate Diaz interview which is easily one of the best interviews of a fighter ever done? good god no.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:43
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Triticum Guzzler posted:i didn't realise that's what it was for It isn't, although I'm not sure if Keven is honestly mistaken or just low-key trolling. Bundt Cake posted:Christ I forgot the downside of brock lesnar being back: Brock lesnar's back To be fair, it's not nearly as embarassing as Brock Lesnar's front
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Jun 6, 2016 18:43
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ariel's best work was when he did that long interview with an extremely distressed mark hunt where he could never exactly tease out of him what was wrong, but it seemed like his private life was falling apart and he no longer cared about fighting. then it turned out he just wanted carbs.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:44
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Triticum Guzzler posted:ariel's best work was when he did that long interview with an extremely distressed mark hunt where he could never exactly tease out of him what was wrong, but it seemed like his private life was falling apart and he no longer cared about fighting. then it turned out he just wanted carbs. carbravings are some serious poo poo bro
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Jun 6, 2016 18:46
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that whole weekend embedded series of Hunt bumbling around Mexico getting his clothes washed and having an emotional crisis was great
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Jun 6, 2016 18:47
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Le Saboteur posted:Its also an example of how smart of an interviewer he is though, not a lot of people would know to sit back and let Nate go in that scenario. He's done tons of greats interviews like that, his walk arounds with Michael Bisping being up there as well. He also does a ton of dumb poo poo becauses he's basically a blogger who got upgraded to an MMA "journalist" when the sport got huge. What Ariel is doing right now is important no matter how you feel about him. The UFC should not be allowed to strong arm ANY writer no matter how you feel about them for reporting news they've confirmed with their sources. Thats loving ridiculous. this isn't even the first time they've done this, and the MMA community at large collectively didn't give a poo poo then, and guess what? they'll probably do it again. ariel helwani isn't going away. he's just not going to have boring interviews before events anymore. he still has all the connections he's always had, and you can continue to get well informed and laugh every time he says man in the hat and man in the shirt
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Jun 6, 2016 18:47
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https://twitter.com/hollywoodasia/status/739876295442595841
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Jun 6, 2016 18:49
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Fuckboy means you want to have sex but not get into a relationship <- my read
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Jun 6, 2016 18:49
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Le Saboteur posted:Its also an example of how smart of an interviewer he is though, not a lot of people would know to sit back and let Nate go in that scenario. He's done tons of greats interviews like that, his walk arounds with Michael Bisping being up there as well. He also does a ton of dumb poo poo becauses he's basically a blogger who got upgraded to an MMA "journalist" when the sport got huge. What Ariel is doing right now is important no matter how you feel about him. The UFC should not be allowed to strong arm ANY writer no matter how you feel about them for reporting news they've confirmed with their sources. Thats loving ridiculous. This is correct.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:50
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I remember the time Ariel interviewed Mayhem Miller who insisted that Ariel talk to him as if he was a character from a movie who never said a line and was vomited on by Kevin James
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Jun 6, 2016 18:52
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projecthalaxy posted:Mr Helwani, you stand accused of taking yourself seriously and possibly even taking pride in your work. How do you plead? GUILTY
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Jun 6, 2016 18:53
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Triticum Guzzler posted:anyway brock trained for years before his debut. you have k-1 founder ishii to thank for him. Is that right? Trained to what degree? Was he super-serial about it, or was it just, "I'm learning how to do an armbar!"
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Jun 6, 2016 18:54
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It really sucks that bisping's moment is getting overshadowed by journalists throwing tantrums, and then complaining that his moment is being overshadowed.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:55
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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I always admired his louis theroux quality of trying to appear as unthreatening as possible and putting people at ease to get more out of them as opposed to, say, Brendan "I DISAGREE BRO" Schaub. But that's also my problem with the situation, Ariel is the one eyed man in the kingdom of Rogans, Schaubs and whoever the gently caress The Herd is.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:55
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-Atom- posted:this isn't even the first time they've done this, and the MMA community at large collectively didn't give a poo poo then, and guess what? they'll probably do it again. Plus MMA Hour is probably one of, if not the, most popular MMA focused podcasts/radio shows around so people won't turn that down just because he's not allowed at UFC events. If UFC put a policy out saying fighters can't talk to him/MMAFighting.com ever then that's where poo poo gets real.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:56
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Ariel is complaining that UFC tried to pay him too much money and get him involved in too many projects.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:57
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Centripetal Horse posted:Is that right? Trained to what degree? Was he super-serial about it, or was it just, "I'm learning how to do an armbar!" He trained for a bit with Miletich's gym before he was announced as having signed with K-1, who said that they set him up with Royce as a jiu jitsu coach and he didn't debut for like another year. It was something that was in the works for a long time.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:58
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UFC is going to give all of Ariel's access and contacts and preferential treatment to The Garv.
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Jun 6, 2016 18:58
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Bundt Cake posted:Christ I forgot the downside of brock lesnar being back: Brock lesnar's back his chest is where the sword is though
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Jun 6, 2016 18:58
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FRB Banned for life. https://twitter.com/FrontRowBrian/status/739334516590837760
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Jun 6, 2016 18:59
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Unfunny Poster posted:Plus MMA Hour is probably one of, if not the, most popular MMA focused podcasts/radio shows around so people won't turn that down just because he's not allowed at UFC events. If UFC put a policy out saying fighters can't talk to him/MMAFighting.com ever then that's where poo poo gets real. Sherdog was banned from UFC press row for YEARS, and they still did live play by plays by having a dude in cheap seats text things to someone who would then retype it all.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:00
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At the end of the day Ariel should be fine but I really hope this doesn't affect Esther Lin. She's the best fight photographer in the game and it was ridiculous for them to kick her out with him in the first place.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:01
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Brock had Erik Paulson and Greg Nelson supervising his training, and he flew out significant numbers of ranked heavyweights (including the only one in mma that had better wrestling credentials than him) for all of his camps. He got a late start, but he was absolutely taking mma seriously in terms of the time, money and effort he put into training.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:01
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mistakinder posted:I always admired his louis theroux quality of trying to appear as unthreatening as possible and putting people at ease to get more out of them as opposed to, say, Brendan "I DISAGREE BRO" Schaub. That's a good way to put it. Who else is good for MMA journalism. I usually watch the MMA Hour and the MMA Beat. The guys seem knowledgeable even if they are goofy on occasion. The Fighter and the Kid seems retarded to me and like they rarely know what they are talking about.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:01
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Tsyni posted:That's a good way to put it. Ben Fowlkes for actual columns about recent happenings and Patrick Wyman to tell you what you're actually watching
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Jun 6, 2016 19:04
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1st AD posted:Sherdog was banned from UFC press row for YEARS, and they still did live play by plays by having a dude in cheap seats text things to someone who would then retype it all. Yeah there's always ways around stuff like this if it sticks. I doubt UFC could ban MMAFighting.com staff from buying tickets but who knows maybe they will to preserve the positive energy of people calling each other "human being." Tsyni posted:That's a good way to put it. Luke Thomas I like, but he barely does interviews. Kevin Iole is also great in my opinion. Fighter & The Kid isn't really a "journalism" thing but a "let's sit and chat with X person and shoot the poo poo" which is good because not everyone does it. Schaub and Cerrone's debate on the Reebok deal was actually pretty good. If you like comics talking sports, Punch Drunk Sports is a podcast with Ari Shaffir, Sam Tripoli, and Jayson Thibault who are all comics. It's more talk radio than hard hitting news but unlike MMAJunkie they're consistently more funny. The guys from MMAJunkie are pretty terrible when they do interviews on air/radio just because of how annoying they can be with the shouting and talking over each other etc. like morning talk radio idiots. Mekchu fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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Jun 6, 2016 19:05
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Tsyni posted:That's a good way to put it. Weirdly I have no problem with the idea of a Bryan Callen but he is loving insufferable on any podcast he is involved in. Very funny comic but as soon as he gets off the stage he alternates between pompous monologues about how to change the world and dumb poo poo about mma that he gets called out on and flops instantly. I think he reminds me too much of myself. And I aint on FATK money.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:06
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-Atom- posted:Ben Fowlkes for actual columns about recent happenings and Patrick Wyman to tell you what you're actually watching good shout. The trading shots thing is a bit redundant but I like his articles and they are junkies redeeming feature. He is even getting a bit better at the videos he does from his office.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:08
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fatherdog posted:It isn't, although I'm not sure if Keven is honestly mistaken or just low-key trolling. gently caress boy is absolutely a jail term for a gay man.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:08
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sometimes i make fun of him to fit in but i've been a fan of ariel ever since i mistakenly attributed this video to him like 5 years ago and i stand by my misplaced fandom https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7sS9H8Oo8Y
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Jun 6, 2016 19:09
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How would he even know? I don't think Dana went into the ins and outs of what Brock is thinking when ejecting them from the arena.
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Jun 6, 2016 19:10
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