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It's too early in the campaign for Trump to be acting like Bunker Hitler, what the gently caress.
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He's already burned his chances. His very lackluster attempt to call out Trump was never followed through.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:20
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Mozi posted:I think there's a growing chance he may not make it to the convention, but I have absolutely no idea of what that would look like. Literal bloodshed and murder of the GOP by the GOP on national TV at the convention.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:20
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Trump isn't dropping out and honestly the stupid comments can't really hurt him anymore. As if Democratic super PACs would let Hispanic voters forget his previous comments about Mexicans. The people who hate Trump still hate him and attacking some judge doesn't turn away his supporters.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:21
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Evil Fluffy posted:Literal bloodshed and murder of the GOP by the GOP on national TV at the convention. 
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Jun 6, 2016 22:21
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I don't believe that a party can realistically change its candidate after formal nomination at the convention. If he were to burn out in August or September and go completely off the rails, the GOP has to ride that train all the way to the station. Admittedly, I'm no expert on the laws of nominating and the procedure that each state does, and I reckon that a few states would just be "yeah, sure, swap him in," but I guarantee there are a good amount of states that would seal that name in stone. I wouldn't miss the GOP convention. Put it in your calendar. It'll be a hoot.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:24
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Trabisnikof posted:Trump isn't dropping out and honestly the stupid comments can't really hurt him anymore. As if Democratic super PACs would let Hispanic voters forget his previous comments about Mexicans. the judge thing proves that american citizens are in trump's targets to some of those "clinton and trump are equally bad" types
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Jun 6, 2016 22:26
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Jun 6, 2016 22:26
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I wonder do they have to put a name with a political party on the presidential election ballot. Could they just have "Republican party Canidate"?
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Jun 6, 2016 22:30
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Trabisnikof posted:The people who hate Trump still hate him and attacking some judge doesn't turn away his supporters. True, but the base doesn't win you the election. Yes, you need a base to be a national party, but like the 9th vote is what really decides most Supreme Court decisions that split along partisan lines (at least, until recently, but that's a different problem), the low-information "independent" voters are the ones who decide the presidency. And even the lowest-information voter living under a rock in a cave on the moon knows Trump's feelings on Mexico by now. Candidates like Mitt and Jeb and Cruz and Rubio and etc. can be polished up and smile and look electable. And that's all it takes for a really uninformed voter. Trump is proving over and over that he's never going to be able to sit still and shut up long enough to let the rubes be fooled into thinking he's electable.
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I hope some smoking gun level information comes out saying that Trump has told his insiders that one of his highest priorities for trying to become President is be able to strong arm the judicial system into not being able to go after him regarding his criminal actions. Hell he might publicly admit it ffs. Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 22:39 on Jun 6, 2016 |
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Jun 6, 2016 22:35
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I hope some smoking gun level information comes out saying that Trump has told his insiders that one of his highest priorities for trying to become President is be able to strong arm the judicial system into not being able to go after him regarding his criminal actions. not until after the convention tho. Jesus those things are still more than a month away.
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And all of the people, and there are somehow still some in this thread, who keep drumming on about "durr like this will matter to anyone, the American electorate are retards (not me though I'm not one of those proles!), nothing matters lol!" need to shut up already because it's been shown overwhelmingly that all of this is making a huge difference.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:39
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Teddybear posted:I don't believe that a party can realistically change its candidate after formal nomination at the convention. If he were to burn out in August or September and go completely off the rails, the GOP has to ride that train all the way to the station. If the RNC changed candidates after the convention, it would do a whole lot of damage to the party. But if keeping the candidate in the race would do more damage than replacing the candidate, the committee will grit their teeth and swap candidates. For instance, look at 1972. The Democratic Convention selected Thomas Eagleton as the VP candidate. A couple weeks later, it turned out that Eagleton was suicidally depressed, had an illegal prescription for Thorazine, and was secretly checking himself into mental institutions for electroshock therapy. The DNC did a special session and replaced him with Sargent Shriver. Admittedly, Trump would have to do something absolutely horrible to get replaced, but it's totally possible. Based on Trump's actions so far, it even seems plausible.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:44
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:And all of the people, and there are somehow still some in this thread, who keep drumming on about "durr like this will matter to anyone, the American electorate are retards (not me though I'm not one of those proles!), nothing matters lol!" need to shut up already because it's been shown overwhelmingly that all of this is making a huge difference. To be fair I think that the unspoken caveat to "lol nothing matters" is "lol nothing matters (to the GOP base)" because if poo poo mattered to them they'd have put up a literal sock puppet before they nominated Trump.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:48
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sean10mm posted:Because his message was what the hardcore Republican base actually wanted to hear, and nobody was willing to say that message as loud as Trump. Look, I don't think he'll win. However, the reason I think he won't win is that the electoral map and demographics are strongly opposed to any Republican winning rather than because he's a grotesque billionaire who has no business being let near control of the trade policy and military of the richest and most powerful nation on earth and that is terrifying.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Look, I don't think he'll win. However, the reason I think he won't win is that the electoral map and demographics are strongly opposed to any Republican winning rather than because he's a grotesque billionaire who has no business being let near control of the trade policy and military of the richest and most powerful nation on earth and that is terrifying. but at the same time the only reason trump was able to end up with the possibility of being elected president is because the GOP is completely hopeless and lost for a candidate to run
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Stultus Maximus posted:Look, I don't think he'll win. However, the reason I think he won't win is that the electoral map and demographics are strongly opposed to any Republican winning rather than because he's a grotesque billionaire who has no business being let near control of the trade policy and military of the richest and most powerful nation on earth and that is terrifying. Utah had a new poll today that has Trump leading Hillary by only single digits. Tell me, would that be the case if it was literally any other Republican candidate aside from Trump? Trump has single handily turned swing states solid blue and solid red states purple.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:54
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Tobermory posted:If the RNC changed candidates after the convention, it would do a whole lot of damage to the party. But if keeping the candidate in the race would do more damage than replacing the candidate, the committee will grit their teeth and swap candidates. Replacing their nominee is contingent on the assumption that the GOP possesses introspection, which the last two general elections casts significant doubt upon. I half expect them to learn nothing from Trump and nominate Literal Yosemite Sam in 2020.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:54
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Popular Thug Drink posted:but at the same time the only reason trump was able to end up with the possibility of being elected president is because the GOP is completely hopeless and lost for a candidate to run Pretty much. Trump is just their attempt to hide the panic and disbelief at how far the Tea Party drug them to hell.
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Eagleton voluntarily withdrew when McGovern asked him to. There's no way Trump would ever do that. The Republican Party rules say: quote:The Republican National Committee is hereby authorized and empowered to fill any and all vacancies which may occur by reason of death, declination, or otherwise of the Republican candidate for President of the United States or the Republican candidate for Vice President of the United States, as nominated by the national convention, or the Republican National Committee may reconvene the national convention for the purpose of filling any such vacancies. The position has to be vacant before they can fill it. This only applies after the convention. (The Democratic rules are the same, except that they specify "death, resignation or disability" instead of "death, declination, or otherwise.")
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Jun 6, 2016 22:55
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yoctoontologist posted:Eagleton voluntarily withdrew when McGovern asked him to. There's no way Trump would ever do that. What if those Rules happen to change with no one knowing before the delegates vote.
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Jun 6, 2016 22:58
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yoctoontologist posted:Eagleton voluntarily withdrew when McGovern asked him to. There's no way Trump would ever do that. Does that "otherwise" give them some leeway?
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I mentioned this in the D&D Chat thread where it got drowned out, but I'll mention it here too in case some of you don't read that thread or missed it: The Anthony Weiner documentary that just came out is pretty good and I think a number of people in this thread would get a kick out of it. It's really just another bullet point in favor of the "All politics is just Veep" theory. Also there's a wonderful clip which features a likely future-D&D-poster at the end which warmed the cockles of my heart.
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Popular Thug Drink posted:but at the same time the only reason trump was able to end up with the possibility of being elected president is because the GOP is completely hopeless and lost for a candidate to run Rubio, Bush, or Kasich would have been objectively better choices. Sure they suck but Trump is the only major party nominee in living memory who is actually completely unequipped to fundamentally perform the duties required of the president of the United States. Shimrra Jamaane posted:Utah had a new poll today that has Trump leading Hillary by only single digits. Tell me, would that be the case if it was literally any other Republican candidate aside from Trump? The fact that he's polling in the 40s is scary enough. Nearly half the country thinks that Trump should be given nuclear weapons.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Rubio, Bush, or Kasich would have been objectively better choices. Sure they suck but Trump is the only major party nominee in living memory who is actually completely unequipped to fundamentally perform the duties required of the president of the United States. yeah but the failure of the party to support a single candidate during the clown car primary meant that the grown ups all fought over the grown up vote while trump sailed off on the racist nativist vote which made him look more popular and competent than he actually is
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Jun 6, 2016 23:11
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Reminder that over 40% of Americans were ok with Sarah loving Palin being a stroke away from those nukes too.
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yoctoontologist posted:Eagleton voluntarily withdrew when McGovern asked him to. There's no way Drumpf would ever do that. If Trump drops out it'll be received by his crowd as him being strongarmed by "insiders." If he's drummed out, it's a dolch being stossed. For years I've said the GOP is dealing with a growing conundrum in which they need to figure out how to keep the evangelical and business wings of the party voting for them when their respective platforms are beginning to diverge over social issues. I would have never in a million years imagined that the Palin wing would just explode out of control in the way it did. It's really something.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Followed by the Anti-Arzy Election Map: Nobody should ever feel good about a map that shows an election turning on New Hampshire
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:Nobody should ever feel good about a map that shows an election turning on New Hampshire the point of that map is that even if trump managed to strongly exceed romney's numbers(he won't) it still wouldn't be a guarantee he'd win
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North Carolina, being the upstanding place that it is, has a high school that allowed their 'Students for Trump' group to do this: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2016/06/06/latino-students-upset-after-nc-high-school-prank-involves-building-wall-boxes/ quote:Latino students at a western North Carolina high school are upset after some of their classmates decided to build a wall made of boxes that blocked access to a common area as part of a senior prank.
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CommieGIR posted:North Carolina, being the upstanding place that it is, has a high school that allowed their 'Students for Trump' group to do this:
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Jun 6, 2016 23:38
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A couple of weeks ago an high school in a western Portland suburb that is more than 50% Latino had a kid hang a banner that read "Build the Wall" from a 2nd floor balcony. It lead to walkouts by students at quite a few area schools. http://www.kgw.com/news/local/washington-county/forest-grove-students-protest-build-a-wall-banner-hung-in-high-school/204340695
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Warcabbit posted:Love the MRA references. No, Scott Adams is 58 years old. He's just a new agey weirdo that's really into hypnotism as a form of self-help/therapy. It's why he's attracted to Trump's persona, believe it or not - the whole self-affirmation, believe it and you can do it, "the secret" sort of thing.
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Antti posted:This is actually an interesting question. He is a legal resident in Russia but I don't think there's absentee balloting abroad so he'd have to go in person to the polling place at the embassy in Moscow. Could the embassy detain him? The embassy grounds are not actually sovereign US soil despite a common misunderstanding to the contrary so it seems unlikely. Obviously as Snowden I would never take the chance.
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CommieGIR posted:North Carolina, being the upstanding place that it is, has a high school that allowed their 'Students for Trump' group to do this: the real shameful bit is that a teacher let them in to do a "prank" that was cleaned up before school even started the next day
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This is too muchquote:Bloomberg talked with two people on the call who spoke on anonymity and said Trump instructed his surrogates to let what he portrayed as hypocritical TV reporters "have it." http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-instructs-surrogates-go-at-reporters "I'm not racist, you're the real racist." is literally a knee jerk reaction that we've all seen 1000 times. This man has no self awareness. I don't see how he is going to make it to November, let alone the convention. It's like a bad D&D poster's arguments coming out of the mouth of the GOP nominee. Heck Yes! Loam! fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jun 7, 2016 |
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Jun 7, 2016 00:14
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Wow take a look at this article Lol @ quote:The good news for Trump is that it can only get better from here. Trump's campaign is so terrible it can only get better!!
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Jun 7, 2016 00:26
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What are the chances of the GOP losing control of the House if the Trumpenreich continues as is until November? It seems like he's fracturing the Right far harder than most people were expecting him to. Furthermore, what are the chances the Dems would seize the opportunity to actually make laws if they actually got control of it?
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gently caress You And Diebold posted:Drumpf's campaign is so terrible it can only get better!! I too am in Flensburg eagerly awaiting news of the recapture of Berlin  Has anyone christened Trump's campaign the poo poo Talk Express yet?
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