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twistedmentat posted:I was thinking how the stakes in Civil War, they're pretty personal and low. Like Zemo just wants to destroy the Avengers for revenge for his family, he doesn't want to take over the world, destroy NYC, steal a billion dollars, or anything. He wants to drive a wedge between Cap and Tony so the team would not function anymore. Yes the Accords will effect all powered beings on earth, but there is no massive sea change in how societies function brought about by it.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Right, here's an idea that I've had. On the off chance that Marvel is able to get the movie rights to the FF back within the next five years, they should do something novel by casting an actual married couple as Reed and Sue and making the characters a bit older. And it seems to me that, if they did this, the perfect choice for Reed and Sue would be Laurence Fishburne and Gina Torres. I think that would be pretty fun. For a while, I had been thinking about Freddie Prinze Jr and Sarah Michelle Gellar.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Right, here's an idea that I've had. On the off chance that Marvel is able to get the movie rights to the FF back within the next five years, they should do something novel by casting an actual married couple as Reed and Sue and making the characters a bit older. And it seems to me that, if they did this, the perfect choice for Reed and Sue would be Laurence Fishburne and Gina Torres. I think that would be pretty fun. Ok, but then they have to make Johnny white.
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Jamesman posted:For a while, I had been thinking about Freddie Prinze Jr and Sarah Michelle Gellar. Haha, also good.
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I know I'm late on this, but what exactly is the point of the "pym particles can drive you insane without this special helmet" subplot in ant-man when the villain's already been shown to be willing to murder people for slightly disagreeing with him?
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This movie's editing is wack.
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Lurdiak posted:I know I'm late on this, but what exactly is the point of the "pym particles can drive you insane without this special helmet" subplot in ant-man when the villain's already been shown to be willing to murder people for slightly disagreeing with him? I think the implication is he's like that because he's been experimenting with Pym particles.
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greatn posted:I think the implication is he's like that because he's been experimenting with Pym particles. Maybe showing a scene where he does that woulda been good.
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greatn posted:I think the implication is he's like that because he's been experimenting with Pym particles. Also the part where Michael Douglas directly says that he's been made mentally unstable because of his experiments with Pym particles.
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muscles like this? posted:Also the part where Michael Douglas directly says that he's been made mentally unstable because of his experiments with Pym particles. I hadn't gotten to that scene yet. But they still never showed him experimenting with the particles on himself before he murdered a dude for no reason, and doing so would have turned him into goo because they hadn't been perfected yet.
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It's implied to just be a proximity thing, but apparently not enough to affect Hope and Hank when Scott does it in the house.
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Aphrodite posted:It's implied to just be a proximity thing, but apparently not enough to affect Hope and Hank when Scott does it in the house. Hope never comes in contact with the raw particles. I assume the suits protect the users from the effects.
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Lurdiak posted:Maybe showing a scene where he does that woulda been good. There are multiple scenes where he is present during a pym particle experiment
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Michael Douglas also says that after Cross had Pym kicked out of his own company, Cross was secretly trying to recreate the formula for years by himself. And that Cross was always ambitious and had Daddy issues, but he had gotten unhinged after Pym was kicked out.
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Lurdiak posted:I hadn't gotten to that scene yet. Wait you hadn't finished the movie before asking?
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theflyingorc posted:There are multiple scenes where he is present during a pym particle experiment I think people are under the impression that you need to eat Pym Particles or something instead of it being like a radiation exposure thing.
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The Dave posted:Wait you hadn't finished the movie before asking? They said "Someone using pym particles will go insane" and then showed someone who had no functional access to pym particles acting insane. It was pretty sloppy, and the idea that he got "exposed" by just being near experiments doesn't really hold water with the rest of the film. It's fine, plot holes are fine.
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He was using ever crappier Pym-like particles. Pym particle exposure makes you slap your wife, Cross particle exposure makes you turn people into goo.
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As fun and enjoyable as the Ant-man movie was, Cross's lack of motivations was perhaps it's greatest weakness. While they make a token effort of explaining him with the Pym particle madness, it still comes off as lazy, and surprisingly similar to Lex's portrayal in BvS; madness and daddy issues. Though, at least the writing and Cory Stole's portrayal made the character interesting to watch.
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I would really be curious to see what this movie was initially supposed to be like. There were a lot of editing choices that felt like attempts at punching up the pace that just made things seem more incoherent or messed with the natural timing of the jokes, and from what I understand large portions of the film were added pretty late in production. Not that I hated it or anything. It was a solid B-.
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The pre-doctored up Wright version was by all accounts worse in every way.
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Wright is among my favorite directors and everything I heard about his version of Ant-Man sounded strictly inferior. Almost all my favorite moments came from Reed or McKay.
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Apparently Cross had more screen time in the Wright version at the expense of Hope, but yeah, it seems like the script changes from the Wright version weren't that major or were improvements.
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Most of my complaints have little to do with the script, so whatever.
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I think marvel movies primarily write from the perspective of "wouldn't it be awesome if?" So Cross turning that guy in the bathroom into a tiny ball of snot over a small disagreement doesn't make lot of sense, but it is shocking, funny, and awesome at the same time.
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Aphrodite posted:The pre-doctored up Wright version was by all accounts worse in every way. Something like little to no Hope scenes and also all the great Michael Pena stuff wasn't in there either. Anyway, in upcoming movie news the current rumor is that Wolverine 3 is going to be called "Weapon X"
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Lurdiak posted:I would really be curious to see what this movie was initially supposed to be like. There were a lot of editing choices that felt like attempts at punching up the pace that just made things seem more incoherent or messed with the natural timing of the jokes, and from what I understand large portions of the film were added pretty late in production. Maybe you would understand the movie better if you paid attention instead of posting while watching it.
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Jamesman posted:For a while, I had been thinking about Freddie Prinze Jr and Sarah Michelle Gellar. Hahaha I just did a GIS for 2015 Freddie Prinze Jr and he has Reed Richards hair now, amazing 
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Whizbang posted:Maybe you would understand the movie better if you paid attention instead of posting while watching it. There's this handy invention called a pause button.
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Rasczak posted:Hahaha I just did a GIS for 2015 Freddie Prinze Jr and he has Reed Richards hair now, amazing You think I just pick my casting choices out of my rear end, son?
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muscles like this? posted:Something like little to no Hope scenes and also all the great Michael Pena stuff wasn't in there either. It's time for live action Omega Red. Lurdiak posted:It's fine, plot holes are fine. You got an explanation. A solid one from multiple people. How is it a plot hole?
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Jamesman posted:You think I just pick my casting choices out of my rear end, son? I don't think I've seen him in anything since like Wing Commander, I was caught completely off guard!
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Rasczak posted:Hahaha I just did a GIS for 2015 Freddie Prinze Jr and he has Reed Richards hair now, amazing He's also hosting a game show on USA network with Dana Carvey 
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I'm pretty sure I read that Freddie Prinze Jr said not long after his spinal surgery that he was done with acting (outside of voicing cartoons) because he didn't want to travel anymore and wanted to stay home with his family. He also said working with Kiefer Sutherland almost made him quit for good even earlier.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:He's also hosting a game show on USA network with Dana Carvey
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Rasczak posted:I don't think I've seen him in anything since like Wing Commander, I was caught completely off guard! He played Fred in the Scooby-Doo movies James Gunn wrote about 15 years ago; Sarah Michelle Gellar was Daphne. That's what I remember him from. 
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I knew him from the Last Summer movies and of course 24, which I really liked him in. I guess he didn't enjoy his time there at all though.
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Wheat Loaf posted:He played Fred in the Scooby-Doo movies James Gunn wrote about 15 years ago; Sarah Michelle Gellar was Daphne. That's what I remember him from. Oh god, I saw this on a Senior Class trip. I had no idea that James Gunn wrote that. 15 years ago... 
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Jim Gordon gonna be jacked in Justice League apparently. https://twitter.com/itsNeha_/status/740325146666356739 https://twitter.com/CallMeTopes/status/740329752548900864
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X-O posted:I'm pretty sure I read that Freddie Prinze Jr said not long after his spinal surgery that he was done with acting (outside of voicing cartoons) because he didn't want to travel anymore and wanted to stay home with his family. He also said working with Kiefer Sutherland almost made him quit for good even earlier. I too would prefer to stay home with Sarah Michelle Gellar over doing anything else.
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