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SonicRulez posted:What. I didn't even believe you, I ran to Bulbapedia to look it up. How on Earth are you supposed to know to do that if you don't have a guide? Presumably by lurking around games sections of comedy forums that will draw your attention to the most ridiculous design decisions. 
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Waffleman_ posted:Remoraid. It's a remora fish, cool. oh man, I love Remoraid and Octillery so much. I remember the episode of the anime where they actually showed a Remoraid evolving, and it made about as much sense as you'd imagine it would, ie, loving NONE AT ALL. It's amazing, and one of my go-to examples for why Pokemon is awesome. btw Octillery is one of the most usable Gen II Pokemon purely due to having a loving incredible movepool. slow as poo poo, but whatever, octopus shoots beams, everything dies. 
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Octillery does have a pretty wide movepool, yeah. Electric, Grass, Water, Ice, etc.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Octillery does have a pretty wide movepool, yeah. Electric, Grass, Water, Ice, etc. Back when the Dream World was still a thing, I got a Remoraid from it with Moody. Nicknamed it Wakra, and my god, did it wreck faces.
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Spatula City posted:oh man, I love Remoraid and Octillery so much. I remember the episode of the anime where they actually showed a Remoraid evolving, and it made about as much sense as you'd imagine it would, ie, loving NONE AT ALL. It's amazing, and one of my go-to examples for why Pokemon is awesome. The fact that it doesn't have Mega Launcher is a crime. On the other hand, Moody...
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Muk is the least original Pokemon, because he is literally just Grimer (the second least original) but bigger and angrier.
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Arcade Rabbit posted:Muk is the least original Pokemon, because he is literally just Grimer (the second least original) but bigger and angrier. Magneton and Dugtrio are just three Magnemites and Digletts respectively.
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Ah no don't go back on to this topic again. Everyone will just throw their opinions out and no one will have any fun. I promise I'll post a new update in a few hours, honest.
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What the gently caress is creative about Miltank?! Back in my day we appreciated well designed Pokémon! You drat kids wouldn't know what a good Poké looked like if it Seismic Tossed you on your rear end! 
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Crosspeice posted:Ah no don't go back on to this topic again. Everyone will just throw their opinions out and no one will have any fun. I promise I'll post a new update in a few hours, honest. Sorry, I really didn't mean to start a shitstorm. 
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The dumbest pokemon is clearly slowpoke guys. Or possibly geodude, those things are dumb as rocks. 
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Some Numbers posted:Sorry, I really didn't mean to start a shitstorm. It's cool. Everyone has their own opinions on every Pokemon, not surprising as there's hundreds of the drat things, but I feel that kind of discussion should only last a page. Though that's me being biased and having the opinion of: AriadneThread posted:every poke man is a precious angel Seriously, I like all 729 Pokemon we've seen so far. That might be crazy, but I be.
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Update 20.5: Milk and Darkness (HGSS) Route 36   : It just has to be a Pokémon. I bet it would be shocked out of disguising itself if you soaked it!  Woah, that tree was a Pokemon this whole time!   Don't underestimate it though.  But still, easy enough.     "with no worries!": That's right! I'll give you some Berries, too. Berry Pots won't do any good without Berries.  Neat.  "to time. Then they'll grow strong!": I have to go back to Goldenrod. Are you heading for Ecruteak? Then you should go north here. See you around!  Aye, we'll see Floria again. Anyway, the Berry Pots are pretty rad, letting you grow four portable Berry trees. Though of course you need the berries to actually grow them to begin with.   There's actually a number of ways to obtain Berries. Wild Pokemon can hold some, your MOM buys all the super effective type reduction berries, while others have to be traded in from a Sinnoh game, or found in the Pokewalker. There's also Jugglers in some cities that will exchange berries for shards. Fancy. Mulch will also affect how quickly your plant grows, how many berries it yields and how quickly it dries out the soil. All can be bought in the Goldenrod Flower Shop. Growth Mulch makes plants grow 25% faster, but the soil dries out 50% faster. Damp Mulch makes soil dry out 50% slower, but berry growth is increased by 50%. Stable Mulch makes berries stay on the plant 50% longer, while Gooey Mulch makes plants 50% more likely to regrow from dead ones. If a soil is dry, just water it. Simple.  It's a good idea to plant some Oran Berries, enough to give you 7 for very obvious reasons. By the time we get to that point (in this update no less), they'll be all grown, yay.   I also completely forgot that you don't need to get rid of Sudowoodo to get HM06 in these games. You can get it before the first badge, no less. Dance Theater  There's a few notable things in Ecruteak, starting with Corphish invading the Dance Theater.    : Huh? Are you telling me you don't respect what the customer wants? Well, then I'll show you how to dance. I'll show you a great one. Wahahaha! Sigh. Let's punt out the riffraff.   : You are a Trainer, aren't you? Please help her!  : You dare get in my way?  You'll be easy enough to take care of. As well as be the perfect debut battle for my fourth team member. Boy, I wonder what it'll evolve into?    : Oops! I have an important mission. If they find out I was wasting time here, they'll make me start over as the lowest Team Rocket Grunt! I better leave now!   : Kind and strong... Good at raising Pokémon as well... That person does know what to look for in people... Ohoho! That was just me talking to mysefl. Never mind.Hmmmmmmm. Well, this is how we get Surf, just the one battle, since the other girls aren't around.  "Pokémon.": But they battle only for good reasons. I don't know if you could defeat them if they showed what they could do.Burned Tower Since we can't fight dancing girls, let's go to the Burned Tower, see what's changed.  Huh. Those are some big hamsters.    The usual suspects are all here, no change there.  "of fire better than anyone!"But we have the Gold and Silver trainers back, so let's see what they've got.   Uh, nothing much, honestly.     Maybe this guy is different.   Yeah, actually. 40 damage at this stage of the game is pretty nasty.   "burned up!"Good experience for our fluffball there. Though having to keep switching is a bit annoying.    Man, I've gotta catch these roamers twice over. Not looking forward those updates. Might roll it all into one.   Can't do much down here, so it's Gym time, baby! Pokemon Gym  "Pokémon at will. : A ghost is like a shade or a phantom... I won't do any good to use physical strength alone.  The puzzle of this gym is kinda similar to GSC, but you have to memorize the path before you beat the trainer and the light goes out. Misstep and you're back to the start, but then the lights of trainers you've beaten stay lit. It's a pretty cool effect, I like it.  It's only gonna get harder from here.    But it's a good time for Psycho Cat to evolve. You need to evolve Eevee before level 15, or your new Pokemon is gonna be without STAB until level 35. Vaporeon can get around this by learning Surf, but some of them, like Espeon, need their respective move.    She's not wrong, the path is straight from the next trainer's line of sight. But the puzzle is getting around that trainer in the darkness.   Now this is just mean.   Two steps down, Cross, not three... but at least it's a straight shot to the leader. And you'd probably go back and heal anyway.    : Here in Ecruteak, Pokémon have long been revered. It's said that a rainbow-hued Pokémon will come down to appear before a truly powerful Trainer. I believed that tale, so I have secretly trainer here all my life. As a result, I can now see what others cannot. I see a shadow of the person who will make the Pokémon appear. I believe that person is me! You're going to help me reach that level!Gym Leader Battle     Morty hasn't changed a huge amount. His Hypnosis strategy is more or less the same, but there are some key differences. His Gastly is as notable as ever, having the exact same moves as before.     I have not missed this strategy. Again, nasty if you can land it, but if not, then it's hilariously ineffective.   I'm only having trouble cause I wanna use Sizzle, dammit! With both Dream Eater and Nightmare at its disposal, it can be a nasty opponent, but healing Sleep does kinda make that strategy a bit rubbish.  Now here's the big guns. And this, my friends, is the perfect counter.   It's just playing with me, ready to sweep me away at a moment's notice.   But here's where Morty's strategy kinda falls apart. The only move Gengar has to affect Normal types is Sucker Punch. Not only does that rely on Gengar's piss poor Attack stat, but it only works if you attack it. So if you don't attack, then it just wastes the 5PP it has until...   All it can use is Shadow Ball. This makes Morty laughably easy compared to GSC, where it at least had Dream Eater to be threatening. But if we were using Gen 2 Togepi, then it wouldn't have any attacks to work with. His Gengar is a lot more potent since Shadow Ball is special, but if you have a Normal type, this Gym becomes really easy to work around. And obviously all Pokemon in this Gym are immune to Ground, but there's still plenty of ways to take them down. If not, load up those healing items and hope for the best.  But Gen 4 Togepi ain't about that weak poo poo. With Mean Look, you might think it's trapped in here with Gengar, but no no no, IT'S TRAPPED IN HERE WITH ME   Even your Sitrus Berry won't protect yourself from my wrath.   Uh, except for that. Oh well. Since we probably won't see it in the main LP, I might as well go over Struggle (Waruagaki: Vain Struggle), a Normal move that deals typeless damage with 50BP, 1PP and 100% accuracy that you can only use when you have literally no other option. Due to doing typeless damage, it affects all types normally and cannot give STAB. The user takes 50% of the damage done as recoil damage, until Gen 4, where the recoil is always 25% of the user's health no matter what. It dealt Normal damage in Gen 1, meaning it was resisted by Rock types and couldn't hit Ghost types. The changes in Gen 4 were to prevent the unwinnable situation of two Wobbuffet in Gen 3 hitting each other forever with Struggle.   : We've got more discipline than anyone else!  Man, this guy has items out of the wazoo. The last Haunter is also pretty meh, but could be annoying if you let it.   What a crazy up and down battle. Just how I like it! Pokemon Gym "something more than that...": So be it. This Badge is yours.  "Pokémon, will obey you.": Also, Pokémon will be able to use Surf. Here is another thing... I want you to have this, too.  : Use it if it appeals to you. I get it... The person the Kimono Girls were talking about must be you... Never mind. You should be strong enough to go across the sea. When you go west and then south, you'll reach Olivine City.Route 42 We're not gonna do that just yet. There's a quick reason to go onto Route 42, but not for the same reason we quickly went here in Crystal.   Ow   : Sorry that I bumped into you. Did I hurt you? Please don't cry. Here, take this.  : When a Pokémon learns it, it can move boulders out of your way. Enjoy a happy mountain-climbing life!  Some good poo poo here. Since Strength isn't required for Cianwood Gym anymore, they just moved its location to here. Sure it makes more sense, but it's annoying to remember differences and poo poo, ya know? Route 39  : My name is Baoba! I used to run a Safari Zone in Fuchsia City, but it was becoming out of date with new entertainment options coming out. I decided to go overseas to learn the newest technology and open a state-of-the-art Safari Zone in Cianwood. It may be more than a coincidence that we are chatting. Why don't we register each other's numbers in the Pokégear? I can give you a call once the Safari Zone is open before I call anyone else! Do you want to register?Safari Zone, eh? Sure, why not.   : I'll let you know over the Pokégear once it's ready! It'll be a couple HGSS updates until we can reach the Safari Zone. And even then, it'll be another while before we can really make use of it.   All the cows are in for the night. The TM is always here though.    Instead of seven Berries, we now need seven Oran Berries.  If you put them in right from the get go, then you'll probably have enough. If not, then they don't take long to grow and it's not hard to come back to this place.    : It's brimming with energy.   So after healing Moomoo, you should get the Seal Case from the left girl. But accessing all the basement rooms of the Pokeathlon has messed with a LOT of event flags, so the game thinks she's already given it to me. It's kinda silly what the game thinks I have and haven't done, but if I knew it was gonna cause this, I would've shown the Pokeathlon rooms on the revisit. It's honestly not a big deal since I can tweak my save file as much as I like.   : It's my pride and joy, there. Give it to Pokémon to restore HP! I'll give it to ya fer just $500.Introduced in Platinum, and thankfully kept in all games onwards, is the ability to buy Moomoo Milk by the dozen. Absolutely fantastic!    : That there's Natural Gift. Its move type and Power will depend on the Berry yer Pokémon holds. When you use it once, the Berry's gone. You best think how you ought to use it, hon.  Oh why not, it's been a while.   Team's looking pretty good, but it's still a while from being complete.  But anyway, off to Olivine for whatever the hell has changed there between versions. And probably even more places beyond. Later nerds! Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Jun 18, 2016 |
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Man, I miss Cameron. His photos were a great way to keep track of how my team changed during my adventure, and that was neat. Sure, there's a similar thing in XY, but that one's only useful to keep track of my clothes...not like that's bad, but it isn't the same. I hope a combo of both appears in S&M. I just like seeing how my team grew during the game.
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The berry pots were an interesting feature, but whenever I planted any in my Soul Silver game, I always completely forget about them and the plants end up dying.
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The pictures in X/Y were nice, but needed more to them than just solo photos.
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Blaze Dragon posted:Man, I miss Cameron. His photos were a great way to keep track of how my team changed during my adventure, and that was neat. Sure, there's a similar thing in XY, but that one's only useful to keep track of my clothes...not like that's bad, but it isn't the same. Yep! I loved doing that. EVERYTIME I got a gym badge and before the next gym I took a picture.
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It should be noted that due to its unique properties, Metronome is not an attacking move until after the move is decided. Togepi is entirely capable of soloing Gengar (and a similar situation in Platinum) if you get good rolls. Like Roar of Time in to Sacred Fire, for instance.
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Can you still cheese happiness by dropping all the worthless X-stat items on a mon in battle?
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So, I'm replaying Soul Silver because of this LP. I got a female Totodile. I have only ONCE gotten a female starter before, and that was in Colosseum with Quilava. Oddly, my favorite generation is the only one where i get female starters.
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Lavender menace posted:Can you still cheese happiness by dropping all the worthless X-stat items on a mon in battle? No, those don't affect happiness. Item-wise, only EV berries, vitamins, wings, and bitter medicine (negatively, of course) affect happiness.
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Blaze Dragon posted:No, those don't affect happiness. Item-wise, only EV berries, vitamins, wings, and bitter medicine (negatively, of course) affect happiness. Yeah, you really shouldn't be able to get happiness evolutions that early, but if I didn't change the value in Pokesav, then I wouldn't have been able to make it to level 15 without a LOT of grinding. And I'm not for that.
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Update 21: The Glittering Port Olivine City Olivine City: The Port Closest to Foreign Lands (Combination of olive and vine, or the mineral olivine, which has a light green colour) Asagi City: The port town closest to distant foreign lands. (From 浅黄 asagi (light yellow), or 浅葱 asagi (light blue))    : And if it's on the sea, there are bound to be fish! I've fished here for 30 years. Would you like to face the sea and fish?New rod for a new good time.  "a new angler!"  : They go wherever there is water. Aah, it's good to heal again. New city to explore, let's see what we can find.  Next to the center is a cafe. Good, I'm hungry, haven't eaten for 3 years.  "lightweights!" : They don't have the power to move boulders aside. Here, use this and teach them STRENGTH! Here's an excellent Normal move. If a Pokemon was using Headbutt, they can probably use this now. Or maybe another Pokemon can make use of it. I'll teach it to Churchill later, I don't right now for whatever reason. Strength (Kairiki: Super Strength) is a Normal move with 80BP, 15PP and 100% accuracy. It's a good, consistent move that is pretty handy to have around.   : I'm so proud of my buff bod!    Take a quick trip to the Mart and see the fourth mail? Third? I forget. There's only five sold in stores anyway.   : If you have KRABBY, would you trade it for my VOLTORB?Sure, we fished one up near Goldenrod.   Got a ball bomb from Tim.    "doing great!"That's good, it was looking a little lonely.     This orb is alright, but it's a bit of an uphill battle to make it useful.  "GLITTER LIGHTHOUSE"Well they said the Gym Leader was at the top, so let's see if we can convince her to fight. Olivine Lighthouse   This is a pretty uniquely designed "dungeon", being all circular and having holes in the floor. Like a real lighthouse!   No more games.    "LIGHTHOUSE lit." : But I hear that it's sick now and can't be cured by ordinary medicine. "for a good fight!"  There's gonna be a fair few battles here, but it's all good experience.    One more level and Helios will have caught up.  "lost in a while!": Hey, give me your phone number. You'd be fun in battle, so I'll call you when I get stronger!Well I've been keeping on top of my phone list, so sure, sounds good.   (We'll more than likely never battle again)    Think this guy needs to fuckin' chill.     I'm concerned about Gym badges, baby!   : I want to visit the sick POKéMON, but I can't get up there...  "MON. I wish to battle with you."And I, you.    Well if you require a rematch, I'll be sure to not give it you.  "like ONIX."Ugh, another Rock Gym Leader. Yawn.  Hmm, two ways to go. We'll head down first.   "the POKéMON here.": She won't even smile these days.   Bubblebeam (Baburu Kōsen) is a Water move with 65BP, 20PP and 100% accuracy, with a 10% chance of lowering Speed by one stage. Not as widely available now that it's no longer a TM.    And that's Helios caught up, only two updates later. Neat.   Aww, yeah, it's sick, you say? Wicked.  Alright, let's use our other team members again.    I agree, Helios has been wrecking.    HP: 65 | ATK: 90 | DEF: 65 | SP.ATK: 61 | SP.DEF: 61 | SPD: 100 | TOTAL: 442  #014: Fearow   "CIANWOOD.": Well, since I'm a loser, I'll FLY across the sea...  Swagger (Ibaru) is a Normal status move with 15PP and 90% accuracy that raises the opponent's Attack by two stages and confuses it. If it's already confused, or protected by Safeguard, the Attack raise will still happen. It's definitely an interesting move and can work for you if the confusion hits, but if not, then you've just boosted your opponent. Good going.   A hidden item right next to the TM and then a Rare Candy just sitting around. Good stuff.   : I mean to bring her back with me. Nobody had better get in my way!   It's nice to use all of my team again, just prefer the variety instead of grinding one Pokemon up.    : I'll pray for the POKéMON, so JASMINE can come back to the GYM.  Oh, uh, hello. : Sailors are both kind and strong. How about you?  Now this is just awkward.    "visit the GYM.": The GYM LEADER's POKéMON type has changed without me noticing.  Seems a lot of people are here for Jasmine. That's cool.   Like seriously a lot of people.    It's how I take down all he Gym leaders.   "compassionate."Well this generation is when Gym Leaders started doing stuff that wasn't just standing in their Gyms, so that's appreciated.   Finally made it to the top. What a climb.    : ...But it suddenly got sick... It's gasping for air... ...I understand that there is a wonderful PHARMACY in CIANWOOD... But that's across the sea... And I can't leave AMPHY unattended... ...May I ask you to get some medicine for me? Please?  Wellllll, maybe we can heal this sick Pokemon if it means we can get a Gym battle. Sure, let's go for it.    And back to the bottom we go. Next stop is Cianwood. Olivine City  But how can we not get a new rod and not try it out? It's fishing time!   ...you can still find Magikarp. However, since they're level 20, they'll evolve immediately and actually become useful. We did just get a Rare Candy from the Lighthouse also... just saying.  And they're useful to give you just enough experience to level up. But let's find some actual new Pokemon.   HP: 30 | ATK: 45 | DEF: 55 | SP.ATK: 70 | SP.DEF: 55 | SPD: 75 | TOTAL: 340  #167: Staryu  Well that's annoying. Recover (Jikosaisei: Self-regeneration) is a Normal status move with 20PP that restores 50% of their health. When played right, this makes you a bit unkillable, so yeah, I'd say it's a good move.    When it stopped getting back its health, it stayed in just fine. The reason why I don't use Hypnosis right away is so I can potentially show off what the opponent can do, so we can hopefully see new stuff.   : Thanks for using my STORAGE SYSTEM. That last POKéMON you sent filled your BOX up. You'll have to switch BOXES if you want to catch more POKéMON. Bye now!  Well that was convenient since I needed to change the time to catch this fun Pokemon.       Good thing about these non evolving Pokemon is that I don't have to worry about when I'm going to evolve them!   Alright, last place to check out in this update is the port.   Uh, not to actually go anywhere, but to fish up some new Pokemon!    HP: 30 | ATK: 65 | DEF: 100 | SP.ATK: 45 | SP.DEF: 25 | SPD: 40 | TOTAL: 305  #169: Shellder   There's one more to fish up. You know what it be.   HP: 75 | ATK: 38 | DEF: 38 | SP.ATK: 56 | SP.DEF: 56 | SPD: 67 | TOTAL: 330  #174: Chinchou   All these fish, so little time.  Oh, this sounds interesting. We'll check it out next time. 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Side Notes 13: Time for Adventures! (GSC and Yellow Arc) I should really talk about the manga more. Let's go over the Gold and Silver arc then, since it makes sense. Two years after the Yellow Arc (and therefore three years after the RGB Arc), a new adventure begins in the Johto region as we follow our new protagonist Gold. He's a rude, but friendly boy trying to track down those who stole his backpack, as well as trying to return the Totodile Silver stole from Professor Elm. It's definitely different to the previous arcs as no badges are collected, but it does revolve around the control and capture of legendary Pokemon. Like how the anime continued on from the Kanto arc, so too does the manga. Previous characters from Kanto appear, including the other Pokedex holders, and join Gold, Silver and Crystal in their fight against the Masked Man. As a trio dynamic, GSC are pretty great, they play off each other really well, mainly due to Gold and his interactions with the uncaring Silver and exasperated Crystal. Having the previous protagonists return is also interesting as it shows the close link Kanto and Johto have, as well as show how the previous heroes have grown since we last saw them. Having the dark past shared for between Silver and Blue (remember, Blue's the girl) also increases that link between regions, as well as revealing that Green trained under Chuck and Red's been recuperating in Mt. Silver. As I did before, I won't be really going into the story itself, as you really should just go and read the manga. It's all pretty fantastic and I will be talking about it in future, there is a lot to go into, after all. To go further into the story would make it difficult to not spoil one of the biggest spoilers and endings in the manga, which everyone has probably heard of by now, but it doesn't make it any less interesting. In fact, since I didn't really talk about the Yellow Arc in the Yellow thread, let's do that instead. Yellow It's been a year since the Gym Leaders and Team Rocket tried to fuse together the legendary birds and Red won the Pokemon League. But a new girl from Viridian Forest named Yellow finds Red's Pikachu beaten and wounded, with Red nowhere to be found. So she goes on a journey to find Red and finds a greater plot by the Elite Four to create an all Pokemon world. Yellow is definitely one of the more interesting characters of the manga, not really liking battling, or evolving her Pokemon, while also having a close relationship with Blue, who knows all her secrets. And despite me not wanting to spoil the GSC Arc, I spoil the Yellow arc by revealing that Yellow is actually a girl. Oh well  And having such a pacifist trainer take on and defeat the strongest Elite Four member Lance is definitely amazing. It's a great follow up to the RGB Arc and it sets the stage for a fair few things in the GSC Arc, so read them all for another feather in your cap, I highly recommend it.But it's always weird talking about the manga. I find I don't have much to say because it's just better to go ahead and read it yourself. I wouldn't say the same of the anime, since it's a pretty clear colourful advertisement that doesn't have much to it. It can still be a lot of fun if you want to watch some animated battles and some colourful creatures, but above all, just read the manga, it's great. And it's a shame I won't be able to talk about the DPP manga, cause that is like the best. But I might be able to talk about all the other arcs around that, maybe? Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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So, I wanted magcargo in Mt newest Soulsilver run. The egg code, no joke, was OLD MAN STICKY HOLD. Yes
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GSC really is one of my favourite arcs. Proper stakes that build well, and I'm just a massive sucker for continuity between generations (also why these games as well are my faves).
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Update 21.5: Battle Tower ExtravaganzaRoute 40 Battlebattlebattlebattle TOWER    : As a token of our friendship, I have a gift for you! Oh hey, something I can use. : It's an item that raises the power of flying-type moves. You should equip a bird POKéMON with that item.: My brothers and sisters are all over the place. See if you can find them all.  We've found five of the seven siblings. Where could the last two be...?  Baaaaaaaaaaaaaattleeeeeeeeeeeee Outside Battle Tower  Toooooooooooooooweeeeeeeeeeeeer   Aw man, I've been looking forward to this. You can use the Battle Tower right away, no problem. If you wanna do some competitive battling against AI trainers, then this is your jam. It's brutally difficult like most battle facilities, but I think our team is tough enough to take 'em on! Inside Battle Tower  : I could show you to a BATTLE ROOM. Want to go into a BATTLE ROOM?Hell yeah.  : Only three POKéMON may be entered. Please return when you're ready. Ah, I should probably go over the rules before we begin. Firstly, you can only have three Pokemon in your party, something they'll fix next generation by just letting you pick your Pokemon. And then you'll go through seven gruelling three on three battles against random trainers. ANY of the 251 Pokemon in the game can be entered, including legendaries, but only for level 70 and above. You can choose what level to participate in, from 10-100 in ten level increments, though we can't choose 50 or above until we beat the game. Like other future facilities and official Pokemon battles, two Pokemon cannot hold the same item and items can not be used by the trainer in battle. Simple stuff. From what I see, there doesn't seem to be a Species Clause. In addition, your Pokemon must be the same or less than the level chosen, they're not automatically brought down. After beating seven trainers, you get a reward, but you don't get anything for consecutive wins. Later facilities start off easy and get progressively harder, but this Tower is hard the whole way though. Good luck, you'll need it. You should also be happy that we can use this Tower at all, cause Japanese players sure can't. In order to open the Tower, you need to use the Mobile Adapter and since the service no longer exists, you can't use it anymore. But while the service was around, you could do online multiplayer battles, with a small price is charged to your account for each one. If you battle well enough, you can become a Room Leader and will be registered on the Honor Roll of the Mobile Center for posterity. Until it shut down. Which it did.  Level 10 is a very interesting challenge that we'll go into in a little while.   Right now, our best shot is the level 30 challenge. Shouldn't be too tough, what could possibly be this good at this low a level?     Our Battle Room has been chosen. Our opponent... is you!  Alright, there's 21 different Pokemon that we could face in each level challenge. They can repeat across trainers and it means there's 210 unique Pokemon sets in the Tower, with different stats and moves and that. Let's see what we get.  A Fun Battle   HP: 60 | ATK: 75 | DEF: 85 | SP.ATK: 100 | SP.DEF: 85 | SPD: 115 | TOTAL: 520  #168: Starmie  Ohhhhhh I feel like I've made a terrible mistake.   Uh... Psychic (Saikokineshisu: Psychockinesis) is a, well, Psychic move with 90BP, 10PP and 100% accuracy and a 10% chance to lower Special Defense by one stage. A much better change from the 33.2% chance of lowering Special last gen.   "LEFTOVERS."Haha, you thought you could participate in the Battle Tower when you first reach it. But no, the Pokemon here are very competitive, have good movesets, items and stats and will absolutely destroy you no problem.   N-no p-problem...   I think in order to beat this facility, we're gonna need some better Pokemon...
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Well, I was considering putting all the Battle Tower stuff at the end of the LP, but then I thought that was a stupid to backload all of those updates. So instead, I'll be tackling the level 10, 30, 50, 70 and 100 challenge periodically throughout the LP. And the question I want to ask is (and is in no way a ruse to move on to the next page so I don't feel bad when I put the next update up): What Pokemon do you want me to use? Now this can be pretty much anything. Tell me what its moveset and DVs will be (Stat Exp will just be maxed across the board to make my life a little easier), whether its shiny, what its nickname is, what item it holds and even what challenge you want it in. Go nuts. There are a couple of restrictions, however: You can only make one Pokemon. You must list its moveset, level, nickname, DVs, item, gender, whether its shiny and, optionally, its ID number and OT. If you don't list all of these things, I won't pick it. It's completely up to you what the Pokemon is like. It must be LEGAL. I'm fine with things being technically legal, like shiny Celebi, or having multiple Pokemon with lots of TM only moves, but it must be able to be able to learn all those moves and be at that stage by its level and species. Egg moves, Tutor moves, level up moves and TM and HM moves are all fine. Event moves are also fine IF it's practically identical to the Pokemon distributed with that move. If you don't get every detail right, it's fine, but do try and make it as close as possible. If you want to pick a legendary, then it can only be used in the level 70 and 100 challenges. Since Item Clause is in effect, if the team I pick has two of the same item, I'll just pick another Pokemon. I don't wanna see Leftovers for days. While there aren't a huge amount of hold items in Gen 2, there's still an alright variety. Go wild. Items do replenish between battles, so berries work just fine. Also remember that Pokemon are not levelled down or up for the Battle Tower, so if you want a Pokemon to be used in the level 100 challenge, it has to be level 100. It doesn't matter if its not exactly competitive, I'll still use it anyway. I'll use any of the 251 Pokemon, so long as it works out. Any Pokemon I miss out, I might go onto the Gen 2 Showdown ladder with them and see how well I do there. Hint: probably not well at all. I'll probably be doing something similar for HGSS, as you can probably guess, so get those brains whirring, cause there's gonna be a lot of competitive battling using Pokemon made by you in this thread in future. Hopefully it all goes well. Hint: probably not well at all. Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 00:23
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Miracle the Sunkern. Give it at least Flash and Double Team, and try to keep it alive.
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 Kind of refreshing seeing a Battle facility get directly to the pain train, without a few rounds of easy teams first.As for Battle Tower mon: Aegis the Lv 50 Skarmory. Male, max DVs in everything, not shiny, holding Bright Powder. Moveset: -Drill Peck -Steel Wing -Rest -Curse Enjoy half of what made the GSC metagame a horrible stallfest.
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Jun 11, 2016 00:41
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Techno, the lvl 50 shiny Porygon2 with Thunder, Iron Tail, Ice Beam and Tri Attack, holding a Magnet, OT is "Kikas" Also known as "What I attempted to make usable in Gen 2 and failed ever since" EDIT: But I didn't have what you'll have: maxed DV!
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Armstrong the Lv50 Octillery (Male) - Flamethrower - Ice Beam - Surf (or Octazooka, but I don't want to saddle you with an 85% accuracy move) - Hyber Beam DVs: Max all Item: Quick Claw Shiny: No Octillery is my favorite Gen II pokemon, and I'd love to see you use him. BlackPersona posted:Miracle the Sunkern. Give it at least Flash and Double Team, and try to keep it alive. Miracle the Lv50 Sunkern (Female) - Flash - Double Team - Protect - Swagger DVs: Max Def, Special and Speed; 1 in Attack. Item: Focus Sash Shiny: Yes Solumin fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 01:20
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How about Doomcow the Lv50 Miltank (Female) -Milk Drink -Body Slam -Earthquake -Shadow Ball Max DVs Item: Leftovers OT: hope I have no idea if this moveset is a good one or not because I am not great at competitive battling.
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Jun 11, 2016 02:13
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Bulk the level 70 Snorlax (Male) -Curse -Rest -Body Slam -Earthquake Item: Mint Berry Shiny: No DVs: All maxed OT: Jade
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Jun 11, 2016 02:19
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Bonzo the Snorlax (Lv. 50, Male) - Belly Drum - Return - Earthquake - Rest Item: Mint Berry DVs: Max all Shiny: No a busted-up mailbox fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 02:21
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Ooh yeah, I've tweaked the rules to clarify items are replenished between battles. Also it seems everyone is in the Gen 6 metagame mindset with all these level 50s I'll mark down the Sunkern as a level 10 for variety and I'll accept a couple more level 50s. But after that, there's still plenty for 10, 30, 70 and 100. Also, I'll change the Sunkern's item to Brightpowder, since Focus Sash doesn't exist until Gen 4.And yeah, unless you state otherwise, everyone's Pokemon will have max DVs. Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 02:29
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DeathStar the Starmie (Lv 30) Surf Thunder Wave Confuse Ray Recover Item: Leftovers DVs: All Maxed Shiny: Yes
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Some Numbers posted:Item: Leftovers Isn't that impossible? Shinies can't have max DVs, since shininess is directly attached to a specific set of DVs.
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