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Update 01: Welcome to the World of Improvements! Opening and Intro  Man, three years on and Old Man Lecture is still a timeless classic.    C'mon, you know how this game plays. Who the gently caress hasn't played THESE games? If not, then it'll become pretty obvious as we go along. That's tutorials for ya.  Our ever vigilant protagonist.  "in next time!"And the technological marvel in these games is RADIO. We'll be seeing a lot more of it later.   Anyway, let's turn on our PC. There's not much we can do here for now, but let's get our free Poti-  O-oh, okay. Never mind then.   Well, in any case, let's head downstairs and explore the brand new region of Johto. Can't wait!  New Bark Town Oh yes, new to this LP will be music links! This is something I really should've included in my Yellow LP, but now I'm fixing that. Time to just stroll out of the house... Chat With Mom    : He said he wanted you to do something for him. Oh! I almost forgot! Your POKéMON GEAR is back from the repair shop. Here you go! : POKéMON GEAR, or just POKéGEAR. It's essential if you want to be a good trainer. Oh, the day of the week isn't set. You mustn't forget that!  We'll get into the POKéGEAR later, but new in these games is TIME. Like actual full on time that affects things in the game. Hmm, I wonder when I started recording this game...     Sure. Whenever the clocks needs to change, we can reflect that in game. But that really won't be a factor.  "the PHONE?"New technology scares me greatly, so sure. : I'll read the instructions. Turn the POKéGEAR on and select the PHONE icon. Phone numbers are stored in memory. Just choose a name you want to call. Gee, isn't that convenient?New Bark Town: PROF.ELM is waiting for you. Hurry up, baby!Phew, as you can immediately see, these games are a lot wordier than the previous games. Still, that's what text dumps are for...    : MARINA, have you heard? My daughter is adamant about becoming PROF.ELMs assistant. She really loves POKéMON! New Bark Town: The Town Where Winds of a New Beginning Blow (From, well, new bark, the start of a new adventure, the beginnings of the game, you get the idea.) Wakaba Town: The town where winds of a new beginning blow. (From wakaba, "new leaves" or "fresh verdure".)  And finally, we are outside. At night. With improved graphics and sprites and lights in the windows. What a time to be alive.  Well, MOM did say ELM was next door (yeah I won't be shouting names, I use the caps lock enough for transcribing), so let's head in. As an aside, Professor Elm's name is obvious, following the tree theme, but Dr. Utsugi, is from, well, utsugi, the Japanese name of the flower/shrub group Deutzia.    : When he's caught up in his POKéMON research, he even forgets to eat.   : "Why has no one ever witnessed a POKéMON's birth? I want to know! I will dedicate my life to the study of POKéMON!" It's a part of PROF.ELM's research papers.  Well as much as I would love to just walk into the grass and get attacked by magical creatures, let's check the lab fir-  Uhhhh...   "LAB..." : ...What are you staring at? Uh, how wude. Anyway, before I forget, let's have a look at this POKéGEAR thing.   So far we have the current time and the phone. And only one number, our mother. Aw man, it's like being back in Year 7...  : Oh, hi, MARINA! Wasn't PROF.ELM waiting for you?Pokémon Lab  Alright fine, we'll go to our goddamn objective.   : I'm conducting new POKéMON research right now. I was wondering if you could help me with it, MARINA. You see... I'm writing a paper that I want to present at a conference. But there are some things I don't quite understand yet.   Pooket Munstars? I love those guys! : Thanks, MARINA! You're a great help! When I announce my findings, I'm sure we'll delve a bit deeper into the many mysteries of POKéMON. You can count on it!   : Okay... Hey, listen. I have an acquaintance called MR. POKéMON. He keeps finding weird things and raving about his discoveries. Anyway, I just got an e-mail from him saying that this time it's real. It is intriguing, but we're busy with our POKéMON research...   : I want you to raise one of the POKéMON contained in these BALLS. You'll be that POKéMON's first partner, MARINA! Go on. Pick one! Hmm. That sounds like a big choice. Need time to think. Let's poke around.   Well Elm had to learn it from someone I suppose...     Hmm. Well that was fun. Back to business.   "fire POKéMON?" HP: 39 | ATK: 52 | DEF: 43 | SP.ATK: 60 | SP.DEF: 50 | SPD: 65 | TOTAL: 309  #004: CyndaquilNew to the LP, click the image to go the analysis, but if not, there's still plenty of info there. Bolded stats are the higher ones, while underlines stats are the lowesy ones. Anyway, let's look at the other choices.     "water POKéMON?" HP: 50 | ATK: 65 | DEF: 64 | SP.ATK: 44 | SP.DEF: 48 | SPD: 43 | TOTAL: 314  #007: TotodileTempting, but there's still one more choice.   "grass POKéMON?" HP: 45 | ATK: 49 | DEF: 65 | SP.ATK: 49 | SP.DEF: 65 | SPD: 45 | TOTAL: 318  #001: ChikoritaSo compared to the original games, where Bulbasaur was easy mode, Squirtle was intermediate mode and Charmander was hard mode, we now have Cyndaquil as easy mode, Totodile as intermediate mode and Chikorita as hard mode. There's never a wrong choice in any game, so always follow your heart.   Quick save and we'll go with Chikorita, cause I just love choosing the Grass types. : I think that's a great POKéMON too! And thanks to the end of the Yellow thread, we have our nickname. I'm sure we'll pick up the other two eventually.   : It's almost a direct route there, so you can't miss it. But just in case, here's my phone number. Call me if anything comes up! : If your POKéMON is hurt, you should heal it with this machine. Feel free to use it anytime. MARINA, I'm counting on you! : MR.POKéMON goes everywhere and finds rarities. Too bad they're just rare and not very useful... Okay, let's get going on our grand adventure with no more text bo-   : MARINA, I want you to have this for your errand. Ah, here's where our first Potion is. Just handing it to me instead of making me search for it myself, god they've really casualised these games. : There are only two of us, so we're always busy.New Bark Town   Okay, let's have a look at our new Pokemon. We'll go more in depth very soon, but let's go over the new things.    First up we have the more general info, including genders and a way to easily track experience. Then we have the moves and held item, which take effect when certain conditions are fulfilled. A Berry will restore 10HP when the Pokemon goes under 50% of its health. Nothing too amazing, but it saves a turn to use a Potion, though I would recommend to keep the Berry for now. Then we have the OT, as well as the various stats, including the now split Special. No longer is it a broken pile of crap and can be different values for each Pokemon, with some nice calculations we'll see in just a little bit. Route 29  Now we can actually begin our journey proper, with brand new placards introduced in Crystal.     But getting to the next town over won't be easy. As with a number of RPGs, we have random encounters. So battling is almost unavoidable. Wild Pokemon Battle And we literally can't go one step without encountering a wild Pokemon.  And new to Crystal are Pokemon animations! We can also see a longer animation when we check a Pokemon's status, but the one's you encounter in battle will suffice. We'll also go over the templates when we can actually obtain these Pokemon for our own team, right now all we can do is fight them.    Battling is very similar to Gen 1 and has remained pretty much consistent across the series. You can either attack, switch to another Pokemon, use an item or run away. To begin with, there's not much we can do aside from use Tackle (Taiatari: Body Blow), a standard Normal move with 35 Base Power, 35 Power Points and 95% accuracy, or Growl (Nakigoe: Cry), a Normal status move with 40PP and 100% accuracy that lowers the opponent's Attack by one stage.   I won't be giffing the attack animations. These updates are enough work as they are. Wild Pokemon Defeated   Overall, not very tough, nor very interesting. But now we can see experience in battle and can tell how close a Pokemon is to leveling up. Nice! Route 29  Ah, this will be a fun time.   We'll still go over any new moves we encounter, since some have changed from the previous games. Not Tail Whip (Shippo wo Furu: Tail Wag) though, still a Normal status move with 30PP and 100% accuracy that lowers Defense by one stage.    Moving onwards. Though this is a dead end, so let's head elsewhere.   Of course.    While finding nothing but Rattata is incredibly exciting, least we get enough experience to level up!   The great thing about Route 29 when compared to Route 1 is it's larger and has more chances to encounter Pokemon. Exciting.   Good to pick up another Potion, in case our starter gets too low.   Oh wow, an actual new Pokemon! But since Petunia is already level 6, we won't fight anything else, we don't need to level up too much.     And while I remember, the Bag has been overhauled. While we still have 20 spaces for items, we have separate pockets for Pokeballs, Key Items and TMs and HMs, so we have more space overall to carry things, which is amazing.    Oh I did that earlier for no reason at all.    "take a shortcut."Let's have ourselves a little detour, since it's here. Route 46   Well it's a bit of a dead end and while there are some new Pokemon here, there's no need to encounter them now. Route 29  So let's continue on.   Yep, the encounter rates change depending on the time of day. No it's not annoying, what are you talking about?    And with actual time passing, we have trees that can grow berries. It's very basic in comparison to Gen 3 onwards, since the trees refresh every day at midnight for one berry at a time.   Otherwise, we've made it to Cherrygrove City, which we'll explore next time. Crosspeice fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Aug 6, 2017 |
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Side Notes #01: Release Overview Way back in the beginning, Pokemon Gold and Silver were announced originally as Pokemon 2, or Pocket Monsters 2: Gold and Silver, with a tentative release date of "late 1997". By Nintendo Space World '97, the '2' had been dropped and it had been given a proper release date of March 1998. However, they were then delayed, with a public apology from Nintendo, stating that Game Freak were worn out, but were very passionate and needed more time on the games. And so, finally, on November 21st 1999, nearly 4 years after the release of Red and Green, as well as less than a year from Pokemon Yellow, Pokemon Gold and Silver were released in Japan. Unsurprisingly, they did incredibly well and soon came to America on October 15th 2000 and then finally Europe April 6th 2001. And due to the West being gripped by Pokemania, of course these games did well and it's where I started my adventure. Most likely (since I can't remember), the release of Gold and Silver in Europe was very convenient timing, just before my 7th birthday, so when that time came around, my gran needed to get me something. Oh hey, here's this brand new Pokemon thing literally everyone's talking about. So, I received Pokemon Blue, Pokemon Silver and a Gameboy Colour and from there, I was hooked and have never spent a year where I haven't played Pokemon. So it's been nearly 15 years since I was first gripped by this series, so both Gen 1 and 2 have a special place in my heart. Alongside every other generation, but details details. So from there, every birthday or Christmas, I would make sure to get the next Pokemon installment and my Gameboy Colour and Advance became a literal Pokemon machine, I finally branched out to other stuff with the DS. Anyway, like Pokemon Red and Blue before it, Gold and Silver received a third version, Pokemon Crystal, with an updated story, fixes and general changes to improve on the originals, but to a lesser extent to future third versions. Released in December 14th 2000 in Japan, July 30th 2001 in America and November 2nd 2001 in Europe, the games had a pretty quick localization, considering. Overall, it did pretty well, though as far as sales go, has one of the weakest in the series, but that's not too surprising. The game has had a good reception and included some weird mobile stuff that we'll talk about later, but it wouldn't be too long before the next generation would be announced...
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Feb 24, 2016 22:09
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Every Professor gets to welcome you to the World of Pokemon. Except Elm. Poor guy.
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Feb 24, 2016 22:17
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What kind of person ever chooses the grass starter?
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Feb 24, 2016 22:30
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Gen 2 has some of the best move animations of any generation.
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Feb 24, 2016 22:31
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:What kind of person ever chooses the grass starter? In RBY. Cydnaquil's always been my favorite GSC starter. Man, GSC. Crystal was the defining pokemon game of my childhood. I don't even want to think about how many hours I logged in this game.
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Feb 24, 2016 22:39
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Ah yes! You chose Chikorita! Love that little guy...thought it really is Hard Mode in this game to start wit it. I did a Crystal VLP myself way back when, and my god, I forgot how stupid hard it is to grind in this game.
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Feb 24, 2016 22:45
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Oh Crystal. Not the first game I ever owned, but it was the first game I ever played. Unfortunately for my siblings after they taught me to play, I was the little sibling who overwrote saves. Lots of nostalgia for this one, even if it's not the greatest. Er, maybe it was Gold or Silver, looking at those dates. I could've sworn I started playing Pokemon before I started Kindergarten. Maybe a month seemed longer then? Who knows. As for karma, it bit me in the rear end 8 years later when my brother deleted my active save on Crystal when I left my GBC in the bathroom. After that, my Crystal's battery went. Thankfully, HGSS came out that spring but still. Totodile was the starter of choice when I was a kind because CROCODILES  , but now I go with Cyndaquil because look at it's precious face!
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Feb 24, 2016 22:52
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I think there's a little thing sitting in your computer's mailbox at the very start. Not nearly as nice as a potion, but still. Also I'm afraid I'm gonna forget you can click on the pokemon analysis boxes for more info. I like reading that extra stuff. And a little thing: there seems to be some text missing when you talked to the route 46 gatekeeper.
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Feb 24, 2016 23:01
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:What kind of person ever chooses the grass starter? I took Chespin because it evolves into a Mega Man X boss.
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Feb 24, 2016 23:02
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Some Numbers posted:Gen 2 has some of the best move animations of any generation. Crystal also has Pokémon animations that won't be surpassed until, what, BW? Gen 2 is full of mechanical and technical improvements over Gen 1, even if it's still clearly built upon the broken mess of it. It also starts the trend of features getting introduced that will be mysteriously missing from the next set of games, but that's for another time. It does have some quite severe game design issues though that I'm sure we'll run across sooner or later. To me, I think the biggest improvement of Gen 2 over Gen 1 is the music.
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Feb 24, 2016 23:13
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Carbon dioxide posted:I think there's a little thing sitting in your computer's mailbox at the very start. Not nearly as nice as a potion, but still. Ah, good catch, fixed. And I'm pretty sure we have no mail at the start, I think I did check when I first recorded. And that is something that I've hopefully fixed with a small link after the stats, like it was in Yellow, but you can still click the big image just to make it easier.
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Feb 24, 2016 23:15
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I will also add that I have played through Crystal with Cyndaquil and kept it from evolving until it learned Flamethrower. That took a very very long time.
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Feb 24, 2016 23:19
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Rabbi Raccoon posted:What kind of person ever chooses the grass starter? Not all Grass starters are bad. Chikorita just has the misfortune of being poorly matched against, like, 90% of the major opponents before you go to Kanto.
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Feb 24, 2016 23:38
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I think in all of Johto, there's about four Gym Leader Pokemon weak to Grass and most either resist it or have super effective moves against it. Or both.
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Feb 24, 2016 23:40
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I love Cyndaquil because he's a fire porcupine. How can you not love that? Unfortunately he's the last of the pure fire starters before we venture down the dark dark path of the Firefighters. loving Tepig
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Feb 24, 2016 23:44
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:Crystal also has Pokémon animations that won't be surpassed until, what, BW? Oh yeah, the Emerald animations were real lazy since those were just sprite distortions instead. Ah Crystal. I spent a lot of time with this game. I think I spent a lot of time futilely looking for Celebi, even though it was impossible to get at the time.
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Feb 24, 2016 23:51
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i always wanted crystal as a kid, but i couldn't get it since i already had silver
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Feb 25, 2016 00:42
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That wording brought that to mind. Kurieg posted:I love Cyndaquil because he's a fire porcupine. How can you not love that? Unfortunately he's the last of the pure fire starters before we venture down the dark dark path of the Firefighters. On the plus side, we got Infernape from that, and Infernape is cool. And Blaziken, I guess.
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Feb 25, 2016 00:52
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Cyndaquil is best starter.  Also, holy poo poo, Crosspiece, I thought you were older than me.
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Feb 25, 2016 01:47
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Crosspeice posted:
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:On the plus side, we got Infernape from that, and Infernape is cool. Infernape and Blaziken both had pretty good movepools, and you could theoretically breed blaze kick onto Infernape but you can't do that with a starter. Tepig's line is just bad, their learnset isn't that good, and their signature move is based on weight. Emboar isn't an exceptionally heavy pokemon, and weight differentials are kind of hard to judge anyways so it's kind of terrible.
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Feb 25, 2016 02:03
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:On the plus side, we got Infernape from that, and Infernape is cool. loving Tepig ruins everything. But yeah, I'm just a fan of Typhlosion, the thunderpunching death monster.
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Feb 25, 2016 02:03
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Aren't Cyndaquil and his evolutions also a bit on the fragile side? I remember him crumbling a lot to pretty much anything he couldn't knock out in one attack. Although I haven't played Crystal in years, so I'm going off my Soul Silver game.
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Feb 25, 2016 02:26
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If I remember correctly Typhlosion has the same exact bast stat spread as Charizard.
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Feb 25, 2016 03:03
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Cerony posted:If I remember correctly Typhlosion has the same exact bast stat spread as Charizard. Huh, just checked. He does. Neat.
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Feb 25, 2016 03:07
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I chose Chikorita because it was cute and I really liked Bayleef's design. I remember going through the game and beating Red with an over-levelled Meganium and 5 massively under-levelled meatshields/HM slaves who took the hits while I healed my starter back up to health. Body Slam was the best.Rabbi Raccoon posted:What kind of person ever chooses the grass starter?
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Feb 25, 2016 05:14
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Crystal was my first Pokemon game and I think one of the first games I ever owned. Pretty sure I played that game for many, many months, even after I went from GBC to GBA. Still one of my favorite games to date - there's just something nostalgic about it, considering how many changes to the Pokemon franchise came as a result of it (day/night, getting to pick a girl, and that's just the first immediate bits.)
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Feb 25, 2016 06:03
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lotus circle posted:Crystal was my first Pokemon game and I think one of the first games I ever owned. Pretty sure I played that game for many, many months, even after I went from GBC to GBA. Still one of my favorite games to date - there's just something nostalgic about it, considering how many changes to the Pokemon franchise came as a result of it (day/night, getting to pick a girl, and that's just the first immediate bits.) Hold items, dark and steel types, special defense split, gendered Pokemon. Definitely the highest number of high impact changes in a generation, I think.
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Feb 25, 2016 06:07
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I actually never played GSC because I didn't have a Game Boy Color. I did get HeartGold when it came around, though.
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Feb 25, 2016 06:29
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Pokemon Gold and Silver actually came out on my 7th birthday, and I was really happy when my dad bought me Silver. I DO have a bit of a sourspot for Generation 2, being that, between my friends, I had to start off with Chikorita, but dumb elementary schoolers gotta be dumb.
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Feb 25, 2016 08:23
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Looking forward to this LP, since I never played Crystal. (I was the only one among my friends who got Silver, all others had Gold. Meaning I could blackmail them and get them to trade me their best mons in exchange for the Silver exclusive ones  )
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Feb 25, 2016 08:36
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I played both Gold and Silver, but never this one. It'll be fun to see the differences!
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Feb 25, 2016 14:47
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Mikl posted:Looking forward to this LP, since I never played Crystal. (I was the only one among my friends who got Silver, all others had Gold. Meaning I could blackmail them and get them to trade me their best mons in exchange for the Silver exclusive ones The main thing I remember from Crystal, aside from the focus on Suicune, is that you can get a Phanpy really early, which is a nice type to fill in early on and he can easily be your ground type all game if you don't want to go back to Geodude. Also, finally being able to play as a girl in the series. Small thing, but welcome.
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Feb 25, 2016 14:52
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Yes, but this is the generation where all three starters were completely forgettable, it's the best of a bad bunch. At least Gen VI had Greninja.
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Feb 25, 2016 15:04
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Never played Crystal but man I remember as a kid blitzing through Silver in a week. Totodile was my main cause he's a croc and cool.
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Feb 25, 2016 15:12
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Oh hey, this started! It'll be fun to watch you going around Crystal, Crosspeice. About the game...I'm nowhere near as positive as most people on it. The level curve is awful, the Pokemon selection is terrible (hope you like Rattata and didn't want those cool new mons like Houndour or Murkrow, or even worse, Sneasel!), and I'm bad actually feeling nostalgic. Nonetheless, I did get this game as a birthday present alongside Pokemon Stadium 2 so playing it on a big screen (or as big as TVs were back then, anyways) was fun. It also gave birth to Vietnamese Crystal which I will always be grateful for. Also even I, the guy who picks Fire all the time, accepts Totodile is the best choice. I picked Chikorita when I tried to Nuzlocke this (because I left my choices up to friends), and LEO did well enough. I don't think he even died.
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Totodile for me falls into the same trap Squirtle did: there are lots of water types, and this one fails to stand out from its competition.
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