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help I won too many games as Mercy now I'm stuck playing against people who know how to play good and can only play Mercy or else I get totally destroyed and I/we keep winning and how did I get here, I am not good with FPS.
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Theta Zero posted:This is an issue where there's no common ground where everyone would be happy, so it's a matter of picking the lesser of two evils. Having somebody or everyone on a team leave and ruin the experience for everyone else isn't preferable to forcing those same people to suck it up and take one for the team so at least somebody else is enjoying themselves. It's less an empathetic approach and more just picking the optimal method in terms of making the most amount of people happy. You have to leave a lot of games to get the penalty, anyway. I've left a bunch in the last few days due to being steamrolled/pulled out due to group invites and only now got the warning on my screen. With Blizz being that generous the only people to eveng et the penalty are gonna be serial leavers who ragequit at the drop of the hat.
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Jun 7, 2016 09:08
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Verranicus posted:Some people -really- don't like the leaver penalty. I only leave games I get thrown into. I'm tired of dealing with it and I never leave games I started in so I feel no need for my penance on someone else's behalf, and I don't really care about my stats if it counts as a loss and 0 dmg for whatever hero it forces me to pick before I can quit then so be it. (Also I often leave when anubis starts loading)
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Jun 7, 2016 09:14
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I think if you leave a certain number of games you get 75% less exp for a while, or something like that
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Jun 7, 2016 09:16
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Snazzy Frocks posted:Just make a hero that does nothing but fly around and kamikaze kills a single target so we can finally be rid of these widow and mccree complaints once and for all You could give this ability to D.va, basically with faster ult generation, and you could opt to do a "fast explosion" so that you boost into a McCree or something, leave the mech, McCree dies from explosion in 0.5 secs and you are left in your human form with 1 HP. Explosion would only affect one nearest enemy target so as to not make the bigger explosion obsolete.
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Jun 7, 2016 09:18
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Countblanc posted:I think if you leave a certain number of games you get 75% less exp for a while, or something like that Leaving is dumb and should be penalized though. If you are having a poo poo round maybe you should tough it out and get better. Learn from the experience; actually try to win. Throw poo poo at the wall, mix it up. I'm being serious here if that's not apparent. Tryhard to the bone.
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Jun 7, 2016 09:19
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The idea of leaving if your team sucks is so bizarre to me. Like, the most satisfying and fun thing that can happen in this game is when your team comes together and grinds out an improbable win after being completely dominated for most of the match. My favorite game ever was one time when we suddenly locked things down and team killed the attackers with the payload less then meter to goal on Hollywood and then proceeded to shut them out for 20 agonizing seconds to get the win. I'd never have experienced that if I'd ragequit because we were playing like spazzes up until that point. Granted, most of the time if your team sucks in the beginning of the match they'll continue to suck for the rest of the match and you'll get steamrolled, but straining mightily to hold back the tide is still more fun than quitting like a bitch. Baby Babbeh fucked around with this message at 09:25 on Jun 7, 2016 |
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Jun 7, 2016 09:23
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Sanctum posted:Oh huh. Does it notify those players about the penalty or warn them before incurring it? It warns you.
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Jun 7, 2016 09:23
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sucking on defense is a lot more fun than sucking on offense, perhaps because defense is just generally more fun anyway. sucking on offense means you have to run into a meatgrinder for 5-10 minutes
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Jun 7, 2016 09:24
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I take a lovely offense match as license to switch to Mei and troll as hard as I can with ice walls.
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Jun 7, 2016 09:26
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erazure posted:help I won too many games as Mercy now I'm stuck playing against people who know how to play good and can only play Mercy or else I get totally destroyed and I/we keep winning and how did I get here, I am not good with FPS. this is the worst part of healer queueing soldier 76 is a pretty smooth transition from healer queue syndrome though, I feel like. Countblanc posted:sucking on defense is a lot more fun than sucking on offense, perhaps because defense is just generally more fun anyway. sucking on offense means you have to run into a meatgrinder for 5-10 minutes that and defense gets easier the more you suck and the win condition for defense essentially comes down to harassment but offense just gets harder
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Jun 7, 2016 09:28
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Verranicus posted:It warns you. Unless you're having connection issues, in which case gently caress you I guess since you're not allowed to rejoin matches, but you still get punished. I had that happen to me when I was only dropping from matches occasionally and it sucked. But normally it's not much of a problem, yeah.
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Jun 7, 2016 09:29
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Elman posted:Unless you're having connection issues, in which case gently caress you I guess since you're not allowed to rejoin matches, but you still get punished. I mean, that isn't really Blizz doing something wrong. It'd be too easy to just fake disconnect matches you wanted to leave to avoid the penalty. EDIT: Have some more whinging about 'forced winrate'! 
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Jun 7, 2016 09:36
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Verranicus posted:I mean, that isn't really Blizz doing something wrong. It'd be too easy to just fake disconnect matches you wanted to leave to avoid the penalty. I can't think of any other game that both punishes you for leaving and doesn't allow you to rejoin if you drop. I don't mind too much since it happens rarely for me, but it seems like an obvious oversight.
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Jun 7, 2016 09:47
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Verranicus posted:I mean, that isn't really Blizz doing something wrong. It'd be too easy to just fake disconnect matches you wanted to leave to avoid the penalty. I've recently had the issue where the game softlocked multiple times (a few simultaneously for my entire group) and the game scolded us for forcequitting the game for being a blank black screen. Also I like catching on to the forced winrate. I feel like I'm smarter than the game because I notice something fishy when my friends who just bought the game and are at level 6-15 and I get paired up against a team of level 50-90 with two level 120+ players. Although I will admit it's downright murder on my motivation when I'm thrust into a situation where no level of carrying on my part can help because I'm stick with teammates who literally just bought the game against people who play Overwatch over sleeping and eating.
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Jun 7, 2016 10:02
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Some Widow who totally ate my lunch credited "that youtube headshot video" and that's so impossibly vague. Anyone know what they're talking about? Probably the multiple videos which show that hitboxes are completely loving broken to the point where you only have to vaguely aim for the head to score a headshot. That's right, all those times in killcam when you decided "there's no possible way that was a headshot" it turns out you're probably correct, and they probably hit you in the shoulder, empty air above you, or in Hanzo's case your foot.
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Jun 7, 2016 10:04
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Elman posted:I can't think of any other game that both punishes you for leaving and doesn't allow you to rejoin if you drop. You're allowed to rejoin. It just doesn't happen often because you're usually replaced first. Another instance where the needs of 5 are gonna outweigh the needs of 1.
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Jun 7, 2016 10:05
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Do you think Zarya's natural hair color is pink?  I bet it is, because heroes never dye.
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Jun 7, 2016 10:14
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"My first impression of Overwatch was "that's it?" "where's the rest of the game?"... You do quick match, but who cares if you win or lose, you miss out on an extra 500 XP if you lose... Other than leveling up, I don't see the point of this game. There's no overall villain you're trying to stop. These Hero's come together to save the world, but from what? There's no depth to this game. No quests, no overall goal, no progression... you do quick match over and over...that's it. Why there's no ranked play from day 1 I don't know. The loot is mostly trash, there's 2 good skins per character (I don't count a different color of the same skin as being "different"). I like the gameplay and characters. The combat and maps is what Blizzard does best (other than over-hyping and milking a game for every penny). To me Overwatch feels like a $15 arcade game, not a full featured $60 video game. Hearthstone has more depth than this game, and it's free. I normally don't complain but I felt compelled to say something this time. Blizzard could have done a much better job with Overwatch." http://us.battle.net/forums/en/overwatch/topic/20745034970
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Jun 7, 2016 10:14
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The patch made it so you can't blow yourself up in spawn while waiting for the match to start anymore. what the gently caress blizzard? what else am I gonna do for the first minute of every game?
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Jun 7, 2016 10:14
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Zorodius posted:The patch made it so you can't blow yourself up in spawn while waiting for the match to start anymore. Blow up physics objects and try scoring some sweet dunks in KOTH.
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Jun 7, 2016 10:23
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Verranicus posted:"My first impression of Overwatch was "that's it?" "where's the rest of the game?"... You do quick match, but who cares if you win or lose, you miss out on an extra 500 XP if you lose... Other than leveling up, I don't see the point of this game. There's no overall villain you're trying to stop. These Hero's come together to save the world, but from what? There's no depth to this game. No quests, no overall goal, no progression... you do quick match over and over...that's it. Why there's no ranked play from day 1 I don't know. The loot is mostly trash, there's 2 good skins per character (I don't count a different color of the same skin as being "different"). lol. "I like playing the game but what's the point of playing if I'm not endlessly chasing a carrot on a stick?"
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Jun 7, 2016 10:45
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Verranicus posted:"My first impression of Overwatch was "that's it?" "where's the rest of the game?"... You do quick match, but who cares if you win or lose, you miss out on an extra 500 XP if you lose... Other than leveling up, I don't see the point of this game. There's no overall villain you're trying to stop. These Hero's come together to save the world, but from what? There's no depth to this game. No quests, no overall goal, no progression... you do quick match over and over...that's it. Why there's no ranked play from day 1 I don't know. The loot is mostly trash, there's 2 good skins per character (I don't count a different color of the same skin as being "different"). It really is the return of the 90s shooter. gently caress loadouts and unlocks, when I'm up against someone I want to know what he's got right off the bat instead of dying to some bullshit I had no chance to guess he had in his loadout. The greatest fps titles I've ever played were literally just what the guy is complaining about. Be it counter-strike, day of defeat or hldm in the goldsrc days, red orchestra, quake or unreal the best part was always that you jump in, the game is there, the rules are there, get good or don't. No need to grind out to level 25 to get The Good Gun to tide you to level 35 where you get The Additional Grenade Slot which keeps you competetive enough until everyone else is level 60 with More Effective Healthkits.
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Jun 7, 2016 10:51
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Aranan posted:Do you think Zarya's natural hair color is pink?  
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Jun 7, 2016 10:55
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Aranan posted:Do you think Zarya's natural hair color is pink? No it's the strontium
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Jun 7, 2016 10:56
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Blizzard doing work. Another hack busted (Autoit), the Triggerbot seems still working tho. I hope they get wasted, too. The author "chancity" deleted all his posts, this might be a hint
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Jun 7, 2016 11:03
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Verranicus posted:"My first impression of Overwatch was "that's it?" "where's the rest of the game?"... You do quick match, but who cares if you win or lose, you miss out on an extra 500 XP if you lose... Other than leveling up, I don't see the point of this game. There's no overall villain you're trying to stop. These Hero's come together to save the world, but from what? There's no depth to this game. No quests, no overall goal, no progression... you do quick match over and over...that's it. Why there's no ranked play from day 1 I don't know. The loot is mostly trash, there's 2 good skins per character (I don't count a different color of the same skin as being "different"). This is what longterm playing of MMOs does to you
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Mr.PayDay posted:Blizzard doing work. Another hack busted (Autoit), the Triggerbot seems still working tho. Somehow I find it hard to believe Blizzard are as good at fighting cheaters as people claim. I have no doubt the hefty price tag and nasty punishments will keep hackers away, but I'm seeing a lot of people who appear to think Blizzard has hacks figured out and there's no way they're getting around them, even though Valve's been struggling with this problem for years.
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Jun 7, 2016 11:19
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fadam posted:If they kept Widowmaker's headshot damage the same but neutered the bodyshot damage would you guys be happy? I feel like once they do something to her, McCree (CD on FTH IMO), and Mercy (make resurrection charge slower) the game would be in a really good place with the exception of stupid meme heroes like Mei and D.Va being assy. No, if she could still get 2-3 headshots off in a row just as fast as she can now you have basically left her unerfed for the best players, reducing the amount of one shot kills you can get in a certain window of time would nerf her for everyone and make it less rewarding to bodyshot.
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Jun 7, 2016 11:30
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A typical Zarya player
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Baby Babbeh posted:I take a lovely offense match as license to switch to Mei and troll as hard as I can with ice walls.
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Jun 7, 2016 11:44
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Elman posted:Somehow I find it hard to believe Blizzard are as good at fighting cheaters as people claim. The AA Site skipped OW cheats. If these dudes fear Warden and esp. Blizzards lawyers, Blizz at least is indeed way better at fighting cheats than other devs, right now. Edit: Valve detected the lmaobox hack. Did you miss all the meltdowns of lost xxxx $ accounts? 
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Zorodius posted:The patch made it so you can't blow yourself up in spawn while waiting for the match to start anymore. Game is literally unplayable now wow
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Jun 7, 2016 12:19
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Broken Cog posted:Wow, that second gif. Is that unique for Mercy's pistol, because that seems pretty egregious. quote:These two videos are worth checking out once you're a little more confident in your aim. The first goes over each Hero's hitbox for being headshot by Hanzo, with a little bit of Widowmaker. The second goes over other projectile-based weapons, as well as moving enemies.
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Kehveli posted:It really is the return of the 90s shooter. gently caress loadouts and unlocks, when I'm up against someone I want to know what he's got right off the bat instead of dying to some bullshit I had no chance to guess he had in his loadout. The greatest fps titles I've ever played were literally just what the guy is complaining about. Be it counter-strike, day of defeat or hldm in the goldsrc days, red orchestra, quake or unreal the best part was always that you jump in, the game is there, the rules are there, get good or don't. No need to grind out to level 25 to get The Good Gun to tide you to level 35 where you get The Additional Grenade Slot which keeps you competetive enough until everyone else is level 60 with More Effective Healthkits. I agree with this 100% and if I had a PC that could handle running this game I would definitely have gone that route. Really miss Unreal Tournament LAN parties, but this game satisfies that part of my lizard brain very nicely.
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Teach me how to Pharah. T-T-T-Teach me how to Pharah.
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So far my best results from playing Pharah have been from feathering the hover boost instead of trying to remain at one altitude. People don't catch on to inconsistent dips and climbs if you're also strafing. Keeping an escape hole available for when someone really wants to put you down is also useful because the rocket splash damage leaves much to be desired.
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Jun 7, 2016 12:44
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Lady Naga posted:Teach me how to Pharah. Someone told me that the rocket does 120dmg if you hit. So 2 hits kill. Be the rear end in a top hat, get into their grill and slay them all. I just got 32 kills and 12k dmg in Gibraltar defense with Pharah. Before I tried to "snipe" with Pharah from far away, but it gave people too much time to dodge. When you are up close they have only one option: to die.
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Ihmemies posted:Someone told me that the rocket does 120dmg if you hit. I have been instantly killed as Tracer from a direct rocket hit, so there's definitely some damage fall off. But generally yeah, you want to get those direct hits and get them hard and close. Even if you play like a mouthbreather, you'll get an end-game mention just for landing direct hits.
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She feels like toilet paper; any time I get in peoples' faces I biodegrade and fall into the sewer.
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