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In Training posted:I've played through XIII twice and I think every single time I paradigm shifted into auto battle I didn't stop hitting X through every attack animation even though I know it doesn't do anything. For like 80 hours of my life at this point probably Same except once, but I enjoyed 12 also. Maybe I just have low standards. 
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Barudak posted:If you don't use friend sphere or some other gimmick to have Yuna travel along Lulus path you're just flat out missing out. It doesn't hurt that Yuna also has an overdrive worth a drat. There's a reason she got replaced with Paine in the sequel Yuna does more than enough damage with aeons. I never saw the need for anything else. Also I'd much rather have Lulu in X-2. Even if her arsenal consisted of healing the enemy, it still would be preferable to X-2 Rikku. Pretty sure the only reason Lulu wasn't included in the sequel is because she's basically a senior citizen compared to the teen girl trio.
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For my first run, Lulu was definitely starting to fall off by the time I reached Mt. Gagazet (and by that I mean the physical team were doing about the same damage as an -aga spell), as someone who meticulously makes sure that every party-member is tagged in for any fight with meaningful AP awarded. But then she got Magic Booster cactuar and Doublecast at the same time and suddenly she's throwing out ~2x8000 damage every turn which is far more than anyone else could at that point, except Bahamut's overdrive - the other characters can do 9999 on occasion but regular attacks tend to be more around ~6k. Even if you level slower the cactuar should let her keep up until you're far enough into the end-game sidequest stuff to get break damage limit on multiple characters.
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NikkolasKing posted:Yuna does more than enough damage with aeons. I never saw the need for anything else. Rikku earns her place in X-2 for her battle quotes alone.
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Jun 7, 2016 04:03
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World of Final Fantasy English trailer, getting a worldwide release, October 25th. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Gz7BislTw
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Jun 7, 2016 05:23
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Electric Phantasm posted:World of Final Fantasy English trailer, getting a worldwide release, October 25th. What a weird selection of characters. Like, someone said Shelke was in this game and I was like "yeah right." I myself couldn't really tell. But wiki confirmed she's in it along with Refia. I mean, Refia was my fave FFIII character so yay? Just weird.
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NikkolasKing posted:What a weird selection of characters. Like, someone said Shelke was in this game and I was like "yeah right." I myself couldn't really tell. But wiki confirmed she's in it along with Refia. I mean, Refia was my fave FFIII character so yay? Well, you couldn't put really obscure characters in something flashy like Dissidia, so maybe it's a chance to feature something more obscure in a kind of limited format? That said, this game looks relentlessly cute and I can't help but want it because I am weak, I am a slave to Squaresoft and always will be.
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Jun 7, 2016 05:52
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I'm glad they haven't buried DIRGE OF CERBERUS
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Well, you couldn't put really obscure characters in something flashy like Dissidia, so maybe it's a chance to feature something more obscure in a kind of limited format? I guess that makes sense but obvious choices like Yuna, Cloud, Lightning, etc. are there too. I guess they just wanted to mix it up, which is fine by me. I'm intrigued so the trailer did its job.
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NikkolasKing posted:What a weird selection of characters. Like, someone said Shelke was in this game and I was like "yeah right." I myself couldn't really tell. But wiki confirmed she's in it along with Refia. I mean, Refia was my fave FFIII character so yay? ...seriously, they must be from 2 or 3, I have no clue who either of them are.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Ha ha we all know you made both those names up. Shelke the Transparent is a secondary character from infamous Final Fantasy VII spinoff Dirge of Cerberus. She's voiced by Kari Wahlgren and wields lightsabers. Refia is from the FFIII remake. She's one of the four-person playable cast. 
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Electric Phantasm posted:World of Final Fantasy English trailer, getting a worldwide release, October 25th. This looks so relentlessly stupid I can't help being interested. I might pick it up for the Vita.
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NikkolasKing posted:
It was a joke because those guys have less personality and presence than any other named FF cast.
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I can't wait to romp around with my buddies Chibi Cactuar and Squall 
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The battle system summary makes it more fun to play than most of the ffs
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How Rude posted:I can't wait to romp around with my buddies Chibi Cactuar and Squall Hopefully Quistis has retained her ability to completely ruin enemies with her broke rear end limits.
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Tae posted:Wow, a tech demo plays worse than a fully complete game with years in development, imagine that I'm almost definitely going to make that same post at some point after I've played XV and just replace Platinum Demo with XV. Especially if we consider that the Plat demo was made primarily to play just like the final game will and the implication that LR was years, plural, in development seems optimistic. Accept Lightning in your heart. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Jun 7, 2016 |
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Jun 7, 2016 08:57
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Electric Phantasm posted:World of Final Fantasy English trailer, getting a worldwide release, October 25th. I thought there would just be monsters and FF characters as summons, I didn't know they'd be NPC - now I want that game all the more, it'll be good. Too bad they (as far as I can tell) can't leave the chibi mode like the protagonist can, but I can live with that.
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Electric Phantasm posted:World of Final Fantasy English trailer, getting a worldwide release, October 25th. It's hosed up that when that guys turns small to dodge the attack and then returns to his normal form
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Jun 7, 2016 09:04
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I'm Squall in that trailer
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Electric Phantasm posted:World of Final Fantasy English trailer, getting a worldwide release, October 25th. d-dual audio tracks announced? D:
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No, you'll get the good Squall voice and you'll like it.
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Baal posted:No, you'll get the good Squall voice and you'll like it. the ff10 vas being back almost pulls me also is that a loving onion knight of dark instead of light and faris and celes ff and the weird dumb stacking mechanic with the two modes for the main characters fff this looks so hilariously dumb and altogether amazing at the same time
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I'm so happy for Shelke
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Baal posted:I'm so happy for Shelke  Call me when we pull Phoebe or Tristan tho
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Saying "but you can play FF12 manually!" is useless because the game was made taking the automation into account. Enemies are gigantic sacks of HP and no one would make it out of the first five hours of the game without gambits if they had to inpout every attack.NikkolasKing posted:I mainly hate Necron now because of his mechanics. "Necron" only has one or maybe two moves, everything else is some invisible, unbeatable enemy which means Necron can get three or four turns in a row?? I'll never forget getting nailed with Grand Cross and Meteor back-to-back. Necron has an amount of ATB bars corresponding to your number of living party members. In the base game they all have a certain part of his moveset they use, #1 mostly spams Blue Shockwave.
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Guys, did you hear the best FF ever made is getting a PS4 remaster? I've been waiting for this for several years now.
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Electric Phantasm posted:World of Final Fantasy English trailer, getting a worldwide release, October 25th. Dang, that's some serious tonal dissonance going on with the goofy chibi sprites spouting all those serious-sounding lines completely straight-faced.
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Tonfa posted:Saying "but you can play FF12 manually!" is useless because the game was made taking the automation into account. Enemies are gigantic sacks of HP and no one would make it out of the first five hours of the game without gambits if they had to inpout every attack. I'm not sure where you're getting that from, since it's the first I've heard of it. He just seems to get multiple actions as the fight goes on and Grand Cross has RNG into it.
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WaltherFeng posted:Guys, did you hear the best FF ever made is getting a PS4 remaster? I've been waiting for this for several years now. Yeah I'm p excited for the XIII remaster too
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WaltherFeng posted:Guys, did you hear the best FF ever made is getting a PS4 remaster? I've been waiting for this for several years now. FF 10 has been out on PS4 for quite a while now, yes
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i am tim! posted:Dang, that's some serious tonal dissonance going on with the goofy chibi sprites spouting all those serious-sounding lines completely straight-faced. In a world where Kingdom Hearts exists this is nothing. But yeah S-E needs to hire different writers.
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WaltherFeng posted:Guys, did you hear the best FF ever made is getting a PS4 remaster? I've been waiting for this for several years now. it's coming out on Sept 30
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Tonfa posted:Necron has an amount of ATB bars corresponding to your number of living party members. In the base game they all have a certain part of his moveset they use, #1 mostly spams Blue Shockwave. First I'm hearing of this. I thought he just got multiple turns.
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Tonfa posted:Saying "but you can play FF12 manually!" is useless because the game was made taking the automation into account. Enemies are gigantic sacks of HP and no one would make it out of the first five hours of the game without gambits if they had to inpout every attack. I think the people who want this just like having that option just exist to make them feel more justified, rather than actually serving any real gameplay use or purpose (which again, while sometimes you you'll probably do manual commands, FF12 is largely automated). Like worrying about items in your inventory to save for the one day you'll use them even though 90% chance a typical player isn't going to abuse those items anyways. Most people would much rather have those items there anyways rather than the game simply not have items. I don't think the complaints about FF12 should really be that it's automated really, but rather it's just boring automation than a system that uses automation for convenience to balance out the rest of the gameplay decisions the player should make.
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Electric Phantasm posted:World of Final Fantasy English trailer, getting a worldwide release, October 25th. This game literally looks like "what if Dissidia was an RPG." People who have actually played Dissidia will assuredly agree with me.
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You wouldn't play the game without any automation, that'd be dumb as hell, but manual inputs are useful for one off commands that aren't worth setting up a gambit for.
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As stated FF12s problem is the automation isn't really replaced with anything. Boss battles aren't enough of a puzzle to require strategy overhauls for the most part and random encounters are constant and are mostly sacks of health so going nuclear in a given encounter is typically not an option. Had the game either had more variations in enemy types and their responses requiring better gambit management or other mechanics to make you change gambit setups regularly it'd have been much better. As it is 90 percent of your gameplay is moving the thumbstick.
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Chibi Final Fantasy just reminds me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PyApTrRxtc
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Barudak posted:As stated FF12s problem is the automation isn't really replaced with anything. Boss battles aren't enough of a puzzle to require strategy overhauls for the most part and random encounters are constant and are mostly sacks of health so going nuclear in a given encounter is typically not an option. Had the game either had more variations in enemy types and their responses requiring better gambit management or other mechanics to make you change gambit setups regularly it'd have been much better. As it is 90 percent of your gameplay is moving the thumbstick. If XII comes to PC, I'd be interested to see if someone makes a gameplay balance mod at some point. Make it so Gambits can take care of the most repetitive tasks, but you can't use them as a crutch and have to engage with the combat.
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