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Krampus Grewcock
Aug 26, 2010

Gruss vom Krampus!

Quift posted:

Wait. There is a character arc in Rick and morty?

I just assumed every single episode took place in a new dimension and that all of the events are disconnected from any causal event chain.

Albeit I can see that the audience would try to superimpose a coherent narrative.

But you can basically watch the show in any order. Or is there any continuity that I have missed except the wedding?

The irony of the wedding being the only causal event leading to the imprisonment of the show is a neat idea.

Uhh, go watch them in order, there is an event in the middle of season 1 that makes the importance of there being a continuous rick and morty apparent for the narrative.

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Quift
May 11, 2012
I did see them in order. But which event?

Krampus Grewcock
Aug 26, 2010

Gruss vom Krampus!

Quift posted:

I did see them in order. But which event?

Where Morty digs his own grave.

Also, the whole Morty dome thing.

I suppose you could look at the show as disconnected realities, but I feel like we have "our" Rick and Morty and what happens between them will culminate into something here in the next season. That or the end of season two loses all its impact.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Morty's arc begins when he buries his body, and ends at The Purge.

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

Quift posted:

Wait. There is a character arc in Rick and morty?

I just assumed every single episode took place in a new dimension and that all of the events are disconnected from any causal event chain.

Albeit I can see that the audience would try to superimpose a coherent narrative.

But you can basically watch the show in any order. Or is there any continuity that I have missed except the wedding?

The irony of the wedding being the only causal event leading to the imprisonment of the show is a neat idea.

There are several arcs and yeah you can watch them in any order but it's still a weird choice to do it on purpose when character beats happen in an order the writers chose when they made the show, and they did a nice thing by putting them all in order so they make the most sense for you.

jet sanchEz
Oct 24, 2001

Lousy Manipulative Dog
I hope Snowball and the rest of the dogs come to Rick's aid. They owe him big time.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

crazy cloud posted:

There are several arcs and yeah you can watch them in any order but it's still a weird choice to do it on purpose when character beats happen in an order the writers chose when they made the show, and they did a nice thing by putting them all in order so they make the most sense for you.

Well, not all in order. IIRC season one's production order was different than what they aired. Some episodes were switched around. Not sure if that's the same for season two or not.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Just because the episodes were produced in a certain order doesn't mean they were intended to air in that order.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


So, I was talking to a friend who's going to vet school and I learned something kind of intresting: Beth should be a LOT richer than she seems to be.

Apparently not only is it harder to become a horse doctor than it is to become a human doctor, but because it's so difficult to to be one and the work is so hard (because horse haves LOTS of health problems) specialists can basically charge whatever they want. And since there are a bunch of rich people who really love owning horses you can make a buttload.

Beth should be living in a mansion sleeping on a pile of money. A horse heart surgeon is an amazing job to have, all those jokes about her being "lesser" than a human heart surgeon are the least realistic part of the show. And considering this show contains aliens and time travel that's saying something.

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
They do have a pretty nice house and it's not like Jerry brings in any significant amount of cash.

JakeP
Apr 27, 2003

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lipstick Apathy

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

So, I was talking to a friend who's going to vet school and I learned something kind of intresting: Beth should be a LOT richer than she seems to be.

Apparently not only is it harder to become a horse doctor than it is to become a human doctor, but because it's so difficult to to be one and the work is so hard (because horse haves LOTS of health problems) specialists can basically charge whatever they want. And since there are a bunch of rich people who really love owning horses you can make a buttload.

Beth should be living in a mansion sleeping on a pile of money. A horse heart surgeon is an amazing job to have, all those jokes about her being "lesser" than a human heart surgeon are the least realistic part of the show. And considering this show contains aliens and time travel that's saying something.

Your friend from vet school is just trying to convince you that he isn't going to be a poor mother fucker when he finishes vet school

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Horse surgeons DO make a lot of money, or can if they have their business set up well and are good with finances and don't have crippling debts or addictions. The only person who gives beth poo poo for "only" being a horse surgeon is Jerry, who's a god drat loving idiot and it's absolutely in character to think he'd be so stupid to see her as some lesser animal surgeon rather than a proper people-surgeon because people are above animals after all.

The smiths have a big house filled with expensive things. Jerry has no job, there's 2 kids in the family as well. Depending on where they live their house could easily be in the 600k+ range, they could be spending a poo poo ton on other crap, they could be putting a lot together for the kids future education.

I've seen people making solid six figures a year in horrible debt, going their whole lives teetering on the brink because they're just really really bad with money and have massive credit card debts they're too stupid to deal with so they keep paying that 20%+ interest making minimal payments every month while the situation keeps getting worse but they're "upper middle class" so can't possibly cut back on any of their stupid habits. Instead they usually just rant about how it's all the government taxing them to death and its the "middle class" that really suffers today.

StalkofWheat
Oct 10, 2012
Plus Rick's giant lab under the garage isn't easy on the electricity bill.

Blasphemeral
Jul 26, 2012

Three mongrel men in exchange for a party member? I found that one in the Faustian Bargain Bin.

Quift posted:

Wait. There is a character arc in Rick and morty? ...

Yeah. Morty starts to grow a backbone, Summer is a lot less annoying, and Rick starts to appreciate life again being able to hang with his grandkids. It's what led him to make the decision that ended season 2 on a cliffhanger.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


StalkofWheat posted:

Plus Rick's giant lab under the garage isn't easy on the electricity bill.

That would certainly explain where the cash is going, but I don't think Rick is the kind of guy who pays for electricity. He probably harvests it from a tiny galaxy, like he does with his car battery.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.
The show is mostly done so that you can watch random episodes and they're fine in of themselves, but there are also some overall arcs which you'll miss out on, so you should watch them in order if you can. The general development of the characters is one of the most compelling parts of the show.

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

So, I was talking to a friend who's going to vet school and I learned something kind of intresting: Beth should be a LOT richer than she seems to be.

Apparently not only is it harder to become a horse doctor than it is to become a human doctor, but because it's so difficult to to be one and the work is so hard (because horse haves LOTS of health problems) specialists can basically charge whatever they want. And since there are a bunch of rich people who really love owning horses you can make a buttload.

Beth should be living in a mansion sleeping on a pile of money. A horse heart surgeon is an amazing job to have, all those jokes about her being "lesser" than a human heart surgeon are the least realistic part of the show. And considering this show contains aliens and time travel that's saying something.

Its still okay though, because its people who aren't doctors who are giving Beth poo poo, and she usually gets really mad at them in return.

As for the money thing, maybe Beth is just a caring individual who helps people who can't afford the other ludicrously expensive horse doctors? Maybe she helps poor farmers and has her own practice instead of selling out?

And considering this show contains alternate dimensions, there's no reason why their universe has to hold to the rules of ours.

Baronjutter posted:

I've seen people making solid six figures a year in horrible debt, going their whole lives teetering on the brink because they're just really really bad with money and have massive credit card debts they're too stupid to deal with so they keep paying that 20%+ interest making minimal payments every month while the situation keeps getting worse but they're "upper middle class" so can't possibly cut back on any of their stupid habits. Instead they usually just rant about how it's all the government taxing them to death and its the "middle class" that really suffers today.

Yeah also this. I had lots of friends growing up who made lots of money but lived in pretty low-end houses, but they'd either waste money a lot or they'd go on family trips all over the place. There's other ways to spend money.

Beth is also what? An alcoholic. Let me tell you from personal experience, alcoholics don't tend to be great with managing finances.

Mercury Hat
May 28, 2006

SharkTales!
Woo-oo!



Horse vet school isn't free, either.

It's part of the joke that Beth is supremely capable and smart and should be way more successful but she's tethered herself to Jerry. She probably could've ditched him and gone through school as a single teen mom and still would've come out miles ahead of where she is.

Brightman
Feb 24, 2005

I've seen fun you people wouldn't believe.
Tiki torches on fire off the summit of Kilauea.
I watched disco balls glitter in the dark near the Brandenburg Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like crowds in rain.

Time to sleep.

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

That would certainly explain where the cash is going, but I don't think Rick is the kind of guy who pays for electricity. He probably harvests it from a tiny galaxy, like he does with his car battery.

Jerry specifically cites it as an explanation for the large electric bill. Also a chunk of change is going into Jerry talking to Teddy Mason and he probably buys other stupid poo poo too.

Another hand-wave could be that horse surgeons aren't as well paid in dimension C-137 or whatever.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Mercury Hat posted:

Horse vet school isn't free, either.

It's part of the joke that Beth is supremely capable and smart and should be way more successful but she's tethered herself to Jerry. She probably could've ditched him and gone through school as a single teen mom and still would've come out miles ahead of where she is.

Don't forget the endearing moral to the story of Interdimensional Cable, though.

As much as Jerry is loving Jerry, without Beth he ended up being world-famous and doing coke with Johnny Depp and sleeping with famous models.
Meanwhile without Jerry, Beth became a very successful but empty human surgeon, who pretty much drinks wine all day when she's not operating.

I kinda tear up every time Jerry says "I never stop thinking about you or what could have been"

As much of a mess as they are, they really belong together. (OH GOD THEY'RE CO-DEPENDENT! EVERYBODY RUN!)

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Total Rickall is an all loving timer. This is truly the best show.

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



The one with Unity was pretty rad, and not just because of the heavy ending.

Just the premise is amazing, a whole planet controlled by one parasite thing but it's cool with you. wowee

Graveyardstick
Nov 18, 2007

Are you too depressed to finish biting through that piece of toast?

CelticPredator posted:

Total Rickall is an all loving timer. This is truly the best show.

Total Rickall is pretty good as an introductory "here's what Rick and Morty is about" episode when trying to hook other people on the show. Also A+ goddamn voice acting cast. Keith David, Tara Strong, whole buncha folks in that one.

Scuttle_SE
Jun 2, 2005
I like mammaries
Pillbug
Gabe Newell does a commentary on episode 2 on the season 2 blurays O_o

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Scuttle_SE posted:

Gabe Newell does a commentary on episode 2 on the season 2 blurays O_o

Turns out Roy: A Life Well Lived was Half Life 3 the whole time.

:aaaaa:

Brightman
Feb 24, 2005

I've seen fun you people wouldn't believe.
Tiki torches on fire off the summit of Kilauea.
I watched disco balls glitter in the dark near the Brandenburg Gate.
All those moments will be lost in time, like crowds in rain.

Time to sleep.

Scuttle_SE posted:

Gabe Newell does a commentary on episode 2 on the season 2 blurays O_o

They joked about how Rick and Morty making a season 3 was a real accomplishment. On one hand it's sorta neat to know they joke about not being able to "count to 3" as well, but on the other hand Half-Life 3 is never coming out and it's sad.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Brightman posted:

Jerry specifically cites it as an explanation for the large electric bill. Also a chunk of change is going into Jerry talking to Teddy Mason and he probably buys other stupid poo poo too.

Another hand-wave could be that horse surgeons aren't as well paid in dimension C-137 or whatever.

There's no reason to hand wave, it's just a joke about not being a "real" doctor. The writers were probably sitting around bullshitting about which animal would be funniest for Beth to specialize in and decided on horses. Nobody except the small percentage of people "in the know" even care about the reality.

It's like arguing about the logistics of a cop show with a real life cop except extremely niche and silly.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Brightman posted:

Jerry specifically cites it as an explanation for the large electric bill. Also a chunk of change is going into Jerry talking to Teddy Mason and he probably buys other stupid poo poo too.

Another hand-wave could be that horse surgeons aren't as well paid in dimension C-137 or whatever.

Jerry is a terrible human being with terrible opinions.

Blasphemeral
Jul 26, 2012

Three mongrel men in exchange for a party member? I found that one in the Faustian Bargain Bin.

prefect posted:

Jerry is a terrible human being with terrible opinions.

Except we all know a Jerry... maybe even a few Jerrys.

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

The fact that Jerry and Beth bring out the best AND worst in each other, never stop talking about how miserable they are being together, and yet would clearly implode without each other and would just have entirely different best-and-worst aspects arise if they were with anyone else or were alone because they're both deeply flawed human beings who will never have pretend storybook happiness no matter what the circumstance is like the realest loving thing I've ever seen on TV. I feel a dull ache for LIFE ITSELF when I watch their bits and thank god I can laugh at them because if they were even a little less funny they'd probably leave me staring at the wall for 30 minutes after every episode.

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

Sanguinia posted:

The fact that Jerry and Beth bring out the best AND worst in each other, never stop talking about how miserable they are being together, and yet would clearly implode without each other and would just have entirely different best-and-worst aspects arise if they were with anyone else or were alone because they're both deeply flawed human beings who will never have pretend storybook happiness no matter what the circumstance is like the realest loving thing I've ever seen on TV. I feel a dull ache for LIFE ITSELF when I watch their bits and thank god I can laugh at them because if they were even a little less funny they'd probably leave me staring at the wall for 30 minutes after every episode.

Some episodes I laugh at the whole time and still end up staring at a wall for a few minutes afterwards. poo poo is deep.

The closest thing I can think of to that balance was Scrubs, where they could be making poop jokes one minute and then talking about the tragic death of a beloved character the next.
R&M is both way funnier and way more real than Scrubs ever was though.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Blasphemeral posted:

Except we all know a Jerry... maybe even a few Jerrys.

Actually I don't know any Jerrys.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Wait, that must mean... oh. Oh. :smith:

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
counterfeitsaint, get a job!

Funkmaster General
Sep 13, 2008

Hey, man, I distinctly remember this being an episode of Spongebob. :colbert:

I can't wait to get home and watch some DVD commentary. I don't know if that's because I'm super weird or because the show is so super good, but I'm leaning toward the latter.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Report back please, I want to know what Roiland has to say about Rickty Minutes. :allears:

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.

MariusLecter posted:

counterfeitsaint, get a job!

Well WHAT does a Jerry look like Marius? Is it a fat balding goon that uses an avatar of an obscure character from a game that hasn't been relevant in over a decade? :qq:

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

I've never owned a DVD before, but after how many times I've watched rick and morty, and people saying the bonus features are real good, I should really pick up season 1 and 2 and watch the poo poo out of that commentary.

Mylan
Jun 19, 2002



counterfeitsaint posted:

Wait, that must mean... oh. Oh. :smith:

Here, this should cheer you up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4k1IK_o59M

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
I don't know why, but my favorite part of the commentary track for Rixty Minutes was Ridley wondering what The Hole In The Wall's SNL audition tape was like.

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Funkmaster General
Sep 13, 2008

Hey, man, I distinctly remember this being an episode of Spongebob. :colbert:

Watched the commentary for everything but the last two episodes. I'll not ruin it for everyone, but a couple of bits of info, spoilered because some people are weird about this stuff.

They're definitely adressing the cliffhanger from the season finale. I know some people thought they might open the next season by just ignoring it, I guess. The guy who made the big spergy video about K. Michael being the one to break Rick out will be sad to know that they were debating how to bring the character back during that episode's commentary, and the writing of season 3 was well underway by the time they recorded.

Fart was originally supposed to be voiced by David Bowie, but he declined.

All the censored dongs in the season were fully drawn and animated, then censored after the fact. There was some debate about whether to uncensor them for the DVD, but they sounded like they hadn't decided yet at recording time. For the record, they did NOT uncensor them.

They're doing another Cable episode for season three.

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