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Murphy Brownback posted:I realize that, which is what makes the irritation irrational. It always just feels like lazy story telling, like "how is our hero going to make it through this room full of bad guys without dying? oh, I know, I'll just make the bad guys fall over dead instantly if they get lightly touched". I don't expect them to show some really brutal realistic neck breaking or whatever, but they could do something that could actually happen in real life, like I don't know, shooting them or something. Well, most of those other methods aren't as quick or effective as they are on TV either. Like when the protagonist shoots half a dozen guys once each with a pistol and they all instantly fall over dead. But on the other hand, if one of the bad guys manages to hit the protagonist, he just needs a bandage and maybe a swig of whiskey for the pain and he's fine.
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Tiggum posted:Well, most of those other methods aren't as quick or effective as they are on TV either. Like when the protagonist shoots half a dozen guys once each with a pistol and they all instantly fall over dead. But on the other hand, if one of the bad guys manages to hit the protagonist, he just needs a bandage and maybe a swig of whiskey for the pain and he's fine. It's just a flesh wound, if you stop the bleeding you are A-OK.
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Jun 7, 2016 13:42
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KozmoNaut posted:WEBM Imgur is blocked in work but if this is the Kay and Peele sketch like I hope it is then this is what I was going to post. If it's not please youtube Kay & Peele neck snap or something similar. It's loving hilarious in Jurassic Park 3 where a raptor does a "Hollywood Neck Snap" and then the Spinysaurus does one ON THE T-REX. Anyway you don't break a neck by spinning it. You forced the chin down towards the chest real hard like in a headlock or something. I read it in a ninja book. 
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Jun 7, 2016 14:18
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No it's not that, it's something even better.
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Jun 7, 2016 14:21
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Tiggum posted:Well, most of those other methods aren't as quick or effective as they are on TV either. Like when the protagonist shoots half a dozen guys once each with a pistol and they all instantly fall over dead. But on the other hand, if one of the bad guys manages to hit the protagonist, he just needs a bandage and maybe a swig of whiskey for the pain and he's fine. This is something I find interesting and occasionally irritating about Quentin Tarantino films. His gun stuff is both more realistic and completely unrealistic at the same time. Someone will get shot and instead of just dropping dead they'll be screaming in agony, but they'll lose a completely absurd amount of blood in the process.
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Jun 7, 2016 15:02
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Perry Normal posted:This is something I find interesting and occasionally irritating about Quentin Tarantino films. His gun stuff is both more realistic and completely unrealistic at the same time. Someone will get shot and instead of just dropping dead they'll be screaming in agony, but they'll lose a completely absurd amount of blood in the process. This is the reason I couldn't watch Kill Bill. Not the gun stuff, but the swords with the anime schoolgirl character and the yellow-suit lady fighting a bunch of dudes in an axe-gang ripoff scene with blood just spraying wildly everywhere. It was so over the top that I rolled my eyes, turned it off, and never tried to watch it or the sequel ever again. They are really bad movies.
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Jun 7, 2016 16:07
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That's like saying Brain Donors is a bad movie because one guy never talks and uses props constantly and another guy is a wisecracker. You should look up "homage" in the dictionary.
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Jun 7, 2016 16:13
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Murphy Brownback posted:Kids in horror movies that always seem all too willing to help the ghost/demon/whatever kill their family. I know kids are gullible and all which I guess makes it irrationally irritating but I'd like to think if some spooky corpse girl or ancient evil demon came out of my wall and started telling me how cool it would be to set my house on fire or whatever when I was a kid I wouldn't listen. I think it's probably good to note that the kids usually do this (or at least, the cases I remember) because the corpse girl demon or whatever never actually leads with "Hey kid, let's murder your parents and bring about the end of days", they spend a lot of time being friends and talking to them. That's why the messed up stuff happening in the house escalates. I bring this up because it's MY irrationally irritating movie moment, where the kid has their "imaginary friend" and is seen whispering to them all secretly and draws little-kid portraits of this obvious demon/corpse girl, and then eventually there's like dead birds piled up in the sandbox or something and the kid's like "Azazel told me they'd be happier there." It's just grating. I guess I just really hate the "entity haunts house by appearing to kid as an imaginary friend" thing. The whole thing. All of it. Please, no more movies with this thing.
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Jun 7, 2016 17:46
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It doesn't really make sense to me anyway, like why would the king of hell or whatever need to get a 5 year old kid to do his bidding? Those movies always go out of their way to talk about how insanely powerful these things are, but if you need to con a kid into powering you up enough to actually do anything besides turn on some faucets and leave handprints on mirrors I don't think you're actually all that powerful.
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Jun 7, 2016 17:52
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rydiafan posted:That's like saying Brain Donors is a bad movie because one guy never talks and uses props constantly and another guy is a wisecracker. You should look up "homage" in the dictionary. Making an homage to something dumb and silly doesn't make the homage itself not dumb and silly. RE: breaking necks--- I always thought Air Force One had a pretty good depiction of it. Even with his arms wrapped around the terrorist's neck he has to really strain and work at it for a while before it breaks.
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Jun 7, 2016 19:58
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Murphy Brownback posted:It doesn't really make sense to me anyway, like why would the king of hell or whatever need to get a 5 year old kid to do his bidding? Those movies always go out of their way to talk about how insanely powerful these things are, but if you need to con a kid into powering you up enough to actually do anything besides turn on some faucets and leave handprints on mirrors I don't think you're actually all that powerful. If I was an omnipotent and all powerful being I'd probably spend all my time just loving with some random family too. It's the Bill Murray principal of "this poo poo is too crazy for anybody to believe".
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Captain Monkey posted:This is the reason I couldn't watch Kill Bill. Not the gun stuff, but the swords with the anime schoolgirl character and the yellow-suit lady fighting a bunch of dudes in an axe-gang ripoff scene with blood just spraying wildly everywhere. It was so over the top that I rolled my eyes, turned it off, and never tried to watch it or the sequel ever again. They are really bad movies. Wow you must REALLY hate the second part if you dont like squirting blood!!!
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Jun 7, 2016 20:30
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ninjahedgehog posted:Making an homage to something dumb and silly doesn't make the homage itself not dumb and silly. Air Force One is a great movie and another grand entry in my favorite genre: Action President.
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Jun 7, 2016 21:18
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poo poo that's gotta be a porn version of under siege, why did brazzers go make a porn version of stephen segal's under siege? Because of the
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Murphy Brownback posted:Speaking of breaking necks: when people snap necks just by turning their head to the side or giving a little Steven seagal chop. I've never tried it but I'd like to think my neck is a little less fragile than that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-jv7doUI8o
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Drunken Baker posted:Imgur is blocked in work but if this is the Kay and Peele sketch like I hope it is then this is what I was going to post. If imgur is blocked at work, set yourself up a private Slack channel and then send messages to slackbot of imgur URLs (including the file extension) and it will display them for you.
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Murphy Brownback posted:It doesn't really make sense to me anyway, like why would the king of hell or whatever need to get a 5 year old kid to do his bidding? Those movies always go out of their way to talk about how insanely powerful these things are, but if you need to con a kid into powering you up enough to actually do anything besides turn on some faucets and leave handprints on mirrors I don't think you're actually all that powerful. Just once I want there to be a movie with this poo poo, but instead the demon/ghost is trying to warn the family their cute five year old is hosed up and going to kill them all. We Need To Talk About Kevin style. I also want a movie or TV show with a medium who solves crimes (of course) but because ghosts used to be people too, they forget poo poo, they outright lie, they ignore her or generally are pricks. So the dead husband tries to pin his murder on his wife or his girlfriend (or both of them) when really he was killed by his boyfriend or some random dude. And why put the women away? Cause he's a prick and wants them to suffer.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Just once I want there to be a movie with this poo poo, but instead the demon/ghost is trying to warn the family their cute five year old is hosed up and going to kill them all. We Need To Talk About Kevin style. There was at least one lying ghost on Medium. He gave them the wrong location on purpose.
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Jun 8, 2016 00:24
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It's not a movie per se but a channelled spirit has his facts wrong at some point in Phoenix Wright. 
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Slightly similar to the "neck-snap" thing. In the Peter Jackson King Kong, and the Bryan Cranston Godzilla, the goodie monster, (King Kong and Godzilla), kills the baddie monster, (the dinosaurs, and the radiation monsters), by ripping open their mouths. This always seemed super lame to me. It doesn''t look cool, it is not interesting, and it is not the kind of thing a giant ape/lizard would do. It is particularly annoying i King Kong, because after a long, boring, confusing CGI fight, King Kong kills all of the dinosaurs in the same boring stupid way. I just wanted to see my giant monkey do something cool damnit!
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Jun 8, 2016 00:42
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I think the mouth ripping open move is pretty cool.
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Kinda makes sense in the whole vaguely like a crocodile way.
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Plus, Godzilla wasn't trying to kill it by ripping open its mouth, it was trying to get its mouth open so it could kill it by spewing atomic fire down it's throat. There's a difference. And that difference is awesome.
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Godzilla is a movie filled with violent sexual overtones
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oldpainless posted:Godzilla is a movie filled with violent sexual overtones Let. them. gently caress.
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Gaunab posted:I think the mouth ripping open move is pretty cool. Yeah that's badass as gently caress. See also the only good part of The Golden Compass: where Ian McKellan bear kills the usurper king bear by tearing his jaw clean off in one swipe. Unfortunately they didn't also include the part from the book where, as per bear tradition, the new king cracks open the old king's chest and eats his heart while it's still warm.
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I saw the new Alice in Wonderland movie the other day and the way the plot is setup bugged the poo poo out of me. (Spoilered because it's a newish release) The movie opens with a grown-up Alice being forced to choose between continuing to work as an adventuring sea captain or to sell her ship and ensure financial stability for her aging mother. Her mother tells her it is time to settle down and that it is 'impossible' to make a living being a female sea captain. Alice says that 'nothing is impossible' and runs off in a huff. She is then transported to Wonderland where the Mad Hatter asks her to find his family who were presumed killed many years ago and she says that is 'impossible' because they're dead. What the gently caress?!? Literally five minutes ago you were saying how nothing is impossible in the real world so why would anything be impossible in Wonderland? Surely given her previous adventures in Wonderland she would realise that things do not follow normal Earth logic? And why would she be so quick to disbelieve the Hatter anyway? She doesn't ask any questions or anything, just goes straight to nope, no can do, sorry buddy. I know it's just to set up conflict and advance the plot but it seemed so incredibly stupid and short-sighted that I couldn't get over it.
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cyberia posted:I saw the new Alice in Wonderland movie the other day and the way the plot is setup bugged the poo poo out of me. (Spoilered because it's a newish release) Because it's through the looking glass so everything's backwards. If the impossible is possible obviously the possible is impossible.
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cyberia posted:I saw the new Alice in Wonderland movie the other day and the way the plot is setup bugged the poo poo out of me. (Spoilered because it's a newish release) I saw sasha baron cohen on late night something and saw his character being real upset that alice took something of his and he needed it back and he was acting like it was his dildo collection what with how he didn't want to describe it in any way but that he needed it back nevermind what it is. What was the thing? Also what's up with his clockwork spine? Those are my questions about the new movie. Thank you.
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Krinkle posted:I saw sasha baron cohen on late night something and saw his character being real upset that alice took something of his and he needed it back and he was acting like it was his dildo collection what with how he didn't want to describe it in any way but that he needed it back nevermind what it is. What was the thing? Also what's up with his clockwork spine? Those are my questions about the new movie. Thank you. Sacha Baron Cohen plays Time who functions kind of like Death in Wonderland. He keeps watch over people's souls (depicted as pocket watches) and moves them from the realm of the living to the realm of the dead. Because he is Time he is portrayed as being half man, half clock. The thing Alice steals is the chronosphere which powers all of time in Wonderland and she uses to travel back in time to save the Hatter's family from being killed. When she takes the chronosphere out of the clock time starts to fall apart so Sacha Baron Cohen's character chases her to try and get it back before Wonderland collapses into a black hole.
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Jun 8, 2016 10:19
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Does Sasha Baron Cohen always play handicapped villainous authority figures in kids movies?
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Jun 8, 2016 10:41
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Because all the ones in real life have gone into politics.
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cyberia posted:
I feel like that's a straightforward, compelling and altrustic motivation and he didn't have to act like it was his illegal porn stash or whatever. Also I'm surprised to learn I give a poo poo they didn't even pretend to base it on the book.
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Krinkle posted:I feel like that's a straightforward, compelling and altrustic motivation and he didn't have to act like it was his illegal porn stash or whatever. Also I'm surprised to learn I give a poo poo they didn't even pretend to base it on the book. Yeah, there's aspects of the book in it but it's a completely different story. It was actually really good and doesn't end with a goddamned dance party. I'd recommend checking it out if you get the chance.
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Cowslips Warren posted:Just once I want there to be a movie with this poo poo, but instead the demon/ghost is trying to warn the family their cute five year old is hosed up and going to kill them all. We Need To Talk About Kevin style. One of the episodes of Angel* did this in spectacular fashion. The team were hired by a family who feared their young son was being possessed by a demon. poo poo gets weird, vomit, house lights flashing, food spilt on a table rearranging itself to spell "HELP ME", seizures, the whole nine yards. So Angel sets ups this big exorcist and tears the demon out of the child, only to find it was the demon who wrote the note begging for help. Turns out the child was so evil that the demon had been trapped inside him. * google check, tells me it was episode 14 of season 1, I've Got You Under My Skin.
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At the end of The Silence of the Lambs, why doesn't Buffalo Bill cock his gun when he slips around the corner into his kitchen and grabs it? The noise of him doing so in the dark while he has his night-vision goggles on is what makes Clarice turn around and shoot him dead. Yes I just spoiler tagged a 25 year old movie. Don't wanna ruin a classic for the young'uns who haven't seen it.
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AlphaKretin posted:It's not a movie per se but a channelled spirit has his facts wrong at some point in Phoenix Wright. If it's the case I'm thinking of it is actually also in the movie adaption.
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The Endbringer posted:At the end of The Silence of the Lambs, why doesn't Buffalo Bill cock his gun when he slips around the corner into his kitchen and grabs it? The noise of him doing so in the dark while he has his night-vision goggles on is what makes Clarice turn around and shoot him dead. I'll follow suit since, like you say, it's a goddamn classic and should be enjoyed fresh if possible. I figure it's because for as creepy as the dude is, he's still just a hosed up dude tricking ladies into his van and not really somebody trained to think about things like this. It might seem like a basic, sensible thing to do but we've already seen in the move Clarice (in the process of being trained) having to be taught things like,"Check behind the door when you enter a room" which seems obvious but might not occur in the heat of the moment. Bill is also incredibly cocky because he's in his own territory and thinks she's helpless because of the environment he has created, he could have killed her multiple times but was thrilling to be able to move right up to her and reach out and almost touch her while she was unaware. He wasn't a rational person at the best of times, and in this situation he's too busy enjoying himself to think tactically, whereas Clarice - despite being terrified - is falling back on that training that has been drilled into her at the Academy. As for my irrational irritation with the movie, right at the very, very end I always laugh at the repeated,"Dr Lecter? Dr Lecter? Dr Lecter? Dr Lecter?" during what should be a very tense moment. Jerusalem has a new favorite as of 13:11 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Gorilla Salad posted:One of the episodes of Angel* did this in spectacular fashion. 
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The Endbringer posted:At the end of The Silence of the Lambs, why doesn't Buffalo Bill cock his gun when he slips around the corner into his kitchen and grabs it? The noise of him doing so in the dark while he has his night-vision goggles on is what makes Clarice turn around and shoot him dead. Okay this is for the book and not the movie but I've got a Silence of the Lambs one that still to this day makes me mad Whenever there's a scene with the killer at his home, the author always goes into detail about the moths squeaking and making noise. Moths do not make noise! They do not squeak or squeal.
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