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I kind of "get" snapchat. Its original gimmick was that the messages aren't saved; but now that it saturated the market, its continuing value has more to do with its face filters and people/organizations building their brand by "broadcasting" their daily or live messages. I was skeptical of snapchat like everyone else. Then again, I thought Twitter was dumb. (I still think it's dumb but for totally different reasons now.)
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El Pato posted:I like how you can uncheck "middle out compression". Wouldn´t that be just a regular compression? The whole point of middle out is that it's a magic thing PP invented that you can do to all kinds of files to make them smaller without losing quality. That's why that whole interface should just be a big red button that says COMPRESS ALL MY poo poo. Illinois Smith fucked around with this message at 09:02 on Jun 7, 2016 |
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Jun 7, 2016 08:41
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Toplowtech posted:It's like a "irc for PROFESSIONALS" (because it's marketed as such) so companies don't feel poo poo using such tools because they can spend money on it and there is a "For PRO" stamp on it (and someone to blame if there is a problem). If Whatsapp is good enough for ISIS it is good enough for a fortune 500 company.
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Jun 7, 2016 08:43
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PostNouveau posted:Monica's right about Slack. How the gently caress is that $3B? My company doesn't use it, but every single person I know who does use Slack is incredibly happy with it. Really what it comes down to is brand positioning - as an analogy how functionally different are Facebook and LinkedIn? One is marketed as pure social media, the other is social media for professionals - there is a ton of overlap, but they position themselves differently enough that the similarities are almost irrelevant. I'd kill to sell Slack, frankly (I work in IT sales).
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Jun 7, 2016 10:00
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MiddleOne posted:If Whatsapp gets sold at 19 billion to a company that already has the exact same service then anything is possible. There are many countries in the world where WhatsApp basically replaced all other text messaging services, they're paying for the client base.
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Jun 7, 2016 10:08
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Echo Chamber posted:I kind of "get" snapchat. Its original gimmick was that the messages aren't saved; but now that it saturated the market, its continuing value has more to do with its face filters and people/organizations building their brand by "broadcasting" their daily or live messages. The fun part is that Snapchat actually saves everything. In general, once something is in the "cloud" it is nearly impossible to actually delete it. The celebrity nudes that leaked a while ago were supposedly "deleted" from Apple's servers, and Ashley Madison had an option where you paid them to "permanently delete" your profile.
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Jun 7, 2016 10:08
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Couldn't help but think of this show while reading this article: http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/06/nests-time-at-alphabet-a-virtually-unlimited-budget-with-no-results/
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Jun 7, 2016 10:32
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Echo Chamber posted:Then again, I thought Twitter was dumb. (I still think it's dumb but for totally different reasons now.) H.L. Mencken posted:No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
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Jun 7, 2016 13:37
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El Pato posted:I like how you can uncheck "middle out compression". Wouldn´t that be just a regular compression? It's radio button, not a checkbox. Typically you always need to select one radio button in a list and it's a list of one. So, essentially, you can't deselect "middle out compression" and the setting is useless. But it's a completely engineer way to design an interface "No, there aren't other options for compression, but it's a setting in the engine so it must be represented on the settings page!" That's one of the subtle things I love about that screenshot.
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Jun 7, 2016 13:41
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Isn't Snapchat the sexting app? That's all anyone I know who uses it uses it for. Self-destructing dirty pics.
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Jun 7, 2016 13:48
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Accretionist posted:Isn't Snapchat the sexting app? That's all anyone I know who uses it uses it for. Self-destructing dirty pics. It's mostly for putting moustaches on your face in real-time.
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Jun 7, 2016 13:57
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Accretionist posted:Isn't Snapchat the sexting app? That's all anyone I know who uses it uses it for. Self-destructing dirty pics. How old are you? I'm genuinely asking that. From what I've seen older people seem to only think of snapchat as a sext app, but younger people use it as a primary means of communication.
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Jun 7, 2016 14:10
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Uh, intermediate with mostly older co-workers. And I only know a few people who use snapchat. Apparently consistent with your observations!
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Jun 7, 2016 14:28
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emanresu tnuocca posted:There are many countries in the world where WhatsApp basically replaced all other text messaging services, they're paying for the client base. A client base that is worthless under the whatsapp service! Facebook Messenger is a money sink for similiar reasons but that service at least has a network externality effect with Facebook itself which can lead to revenue.
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Jun 7, 2016 14:47
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Laserface posted:I know right? its literally IRC in a fancy UI. It's definitely not irc with a fancy ui. It's also not the same as WhatsApp. If you're only using Slack for chatting and chatrooms, you're not taking full advantage of it. There are countless integrations which can make workflows easier. I'm on my phone so I won't go into it in detail, but checkout Slack integrations and also "ChatOps".
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Jun 7, 2016 16:53
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bull3964 posted:It's radio button, not a checkbox. Typically you always need to select one radio button in a list and it's a list of one. I thought so, but look at the Pixel Aspect Ratio section and their are 'unchecked' radio buttons, so I think they're just stylized check boxes. But then at the top, the File Type boxes use the same style! So yeah, the UI sucks. Is the website "canon"? I hope not! Maybe this what the "Neural Net" is meant to solve.
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Jun 7, 2016 18:28
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FrensaGeran posted:Is Kevin the friend supposed to be some reference to Kevin Smith or am I overthinking this? You're overthinking it - show is set in Palo Alto, right close to San Jose, home of the Sharks, Gilfoyle is Canadian, if he were to be socializing with some random guy, doing it over hockey seems plausible
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Jun 7, 2016 19:09
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Was there ever a spotify link with all the great songs this show plays?
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Jun 7, 2016 20:04
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On my phone but if you search there is a Silicon Valley playlist
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The Dave posted:How old are you? I'm genuinely asking that. From what I've seen older people seem to only think of snapchat as a sext app, but younger people use it as a primary means of communication. They pivoted a year or two in. Even the original concept arose from one of the founders wanting to send self-destructing dick pics to a new girlfriend. I remember being surprised at how casually one of my friends was talking about Snapchatting with her mom and siblings. "Like how Chatroulette started as a way to talk to strangers, and then became a playground for the sexually monstrous." Toplowtech posted:It's like a "irc for PROFESSIONALS" (because it's marketed as such) so companies don't feel poo poo using such tools because they can spend money on it and there is a "For PRO" stamp on it (and someone to blame if there is a problem). This is a huge frustration for me in Biotech. There's a host of powerful, open-source tools that do everything imaginable with sequencing data if you can spend 20 minutes picking up basic Unix commands. Yet somehow almost every lab in my department is paying $2-5000/per license annual for a commercial program with: less transparency, way less functionality, proprietary file type bullshit, and a GUI.
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Jun 7, 2016 22:04
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Avasculous posted:This is a huge frustration for me in Biotech. There's a host of powerful, open-source tools that do everything imaginable with sequencing data if you can spend 20 minutes picking up basic Unix commands.
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Jun 7, 2016 22:07
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Hed posted:On my phone but if you search there is a Silicon Valley playlist http://www.what-song.com/Tvshow/12/Silicon-Valley Has all the songs. Silicon Valley has introduced me to a shitload of obscure songs so for me it works.
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Avasculous posted:This is a huge frustration for me in Biotech. There's a host of powerful, open-source tools that do everything imaginable with sequencing data if you can spend 20 minutes picking up basic Unix commands. lol
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Jun 7, 2016 22:16
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bawfuls posted:Hrmmm perhaps an easy to use GUI is valuable Do those kind of applications ever have an easy to use GUI?
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Avasculous posted:This is a huge frustration for me in Biotech. There's a host of powerful, open-source tools that do everything imaginable with sequencing data if you can spend 20 minutes picking up basic Unix commands. You loving nerd. Holy poo poo you guys need to get out there and work with real people if you think IRC is acceptable for business in any way.
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TheBlackVegetable posted:Do those kind of applications ever have an easy to use GUI?
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bawfuls posted:Hrmmm perhaps an easy to use GUI is valuable
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Guys? I don't have any sort of programming or engineering background. I didn't follow virtually any of the tabs v spaces debate a page ago. When I say "basic" I mean literally "move to folder where the program is, run program." Stuff that isn't any harder than figuring out which of the 50 drop-down menus on the visual GUI has the specific tool you're looking for buried in it. Edit - Honestly I don't think it's about the usability, transparency, or even functionality. If there's a program that costs $5,000 per user annually, it flat out doesn't occur to anyone that there might be an even more powerful option for free. I was guilty of that too until someone rubbed it in my face. Avasculous fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jun 7, 2016 |
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Avasculous posted:When I say "basic" I mean literally "move to folder where the program is, run program." Thiss is Too Hard for most normies. The command line itself is just too large of a barrier. Enough time has gone by that typing a command in to tell a computer to" change directory" is completely alien to most people. No one is used to "commanding" operations from a computer (unless it's something like Siri or voice commanded). Because why would I do that when I can see the directory as a folder right in front of my eyes, ready to be clicked, touched, whatever?
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Veskit posted:Holy poo poo you guys need to get out there and work with real people if you think IRC is acceptable for business in any way. https://publicintelligence.net/tactical-chat/ Maybe not for *business*... And yes, smacking someone with a trout will get you in trouble.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:https://publicintelligence.net/tactical-chat/ Lol This is because everything the military uses is 20 years old and has to communicate over lovely ad hoc comms arrays and networks. Seriously though it's like you didn't even peruse the article quote:An article from January 2012 in the Air Land Sea Bulletin describes the value of tactical chat as an effective and immediate communications method that is highly effective in distributed, intermittent, low bandwidth environments which is particularly important with “large numbers of distributed warfighters” who must “frequently jump onto and off of a network” and coordinate with other coalition partners. Text chat also provides “persistency in situational understanding between those leaving and those assuming command watch duties” enabling a persistent record of tactical decision making. The article even says that upgrades have been a long time coming because they know IRC is old as poo poo, but it works so don't fix it. You think real life silicon valley text startups have poo poo infrastructure that can't handle a decent chat client? Look at slacks integrations if you're still unclear. Fiendish Dr. Wu fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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The Dave posted:How old are you? I'm genuinely asking that. From what I've seen older people seem to only think of snapchat as a sext app, but younger people use it as a primary means of communication. Pretty much everyone in the 18-30 age bracket that I know uses it publicly to essentially attach a face snap to a short text message. It adds some personality to the conversation. People can send coy/teasing snaps that aren't outright scandalous and not have to worry about people saving them. The other reason I think its popular is because its much more like having a real conversation, where you don't have a visual record of every word and facial expression, they're transient experiences and part of the charm. Now in private its still used for inappropriate pictures. Ive gotten to the point where small talk conversations are exclusively snap, event planning is text, and any ongoing continuous conversations jump between the two while being mostly text.
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:It's definitely not irc with a fancy ui. It's also not the same as WhatsApp. Yeah these applications that allow you to have 'rooms' to 'chat' in are nothing at all like IRC.
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Laserface posted:Yeah these applications that allow you to have 'rooms' to 'chat' in are nothing at all like IRC. I guess you missed the part where I said Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:If you're only using Slack for chatting and chatrooms, you're not taking full advantage of it. Seriously though saying IRC is like Slack because it has chat rooms is like saying your Air Hogs RC toy is the same as the Mars Rover because they both have wheels. Fiendish Dr. Wu fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:I guess you missed the part where I said As someone who has never used Slack, I'm genuinely curious: what else can it do that makes it so revolutionary?
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SymmetryrtemmyS posted:As someone who has never used Slack, I'm genuinely curious: what else can it do that makes it so revolutionary? It has a huge integration library and it's easy write new integrations. Integrations are basically connections that allow you to interact with other applications that you already use such as monitoring and alerting apps, deployment apps, even source control such as github.
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Well you can basically integrate anything with it to pull or push information to/from another service. Also for our company, when it came out, the mobile app was 1000000x times nicer than skype's.
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Slack is cool for collaboration purposes which is pretty important for business groups. And the integrations are pretty neat. I can think of ton of things that would be better or more convenient in Slack. poo poo, having one application that all my communication is being done out of sounds pretty sweet. I wish I could get my team on it, but my company wouldn't allow it. Also, I realized has struggled at times to remind us that the team at Pied Piper are actually fairly brilliant at what they are doing. The last few episodes have done a decent job of it though (probably why people didn't hate Richard as much in the past episode).
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my company still uses AIM for any in-office communication that's too short or immediate to be sent in an email hell, it works
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Fiendish Dr. Wu posted:Seriously though it's like you didn't even peruse the article I never said it was a *bad* system - just that the military's been using IRC for years.
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