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The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Realtalk: Rev is an absolute idiot, and is wrong even in the way he's going about arguing against it, but that is a pretty lovely article.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Hermetic posted:

Careful. There are some severely lovely people in this thread that flip out if you use autistic as an insult.

That said, you're 100% right, autistic white tech dudes are pretty much the worst, and responsible for making tech and related fields awful for anyone else.

Yep, getting upset at people making fun of folks with developmental disorders is 'severely lovely', all right. Let's forget for a moment about the enormous suicide rate among autistic people, which a good chunk of the people mocked in this thread have done their level best to increase.

The Dark Enlightenment aren't poo poo because they're pro-autistic. They're poo poo because they're pro-autistic in the exact same way that Milo Yiannoupoulos is pro-gay.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Hermetic posted:

Careful. There are some severely lovely people in this thread that flip out if you use autistic as an insult.

That said, you're 100% right, autistic white tech dudes are pretty much the worst, and responsible for making tech and related fields awful for anyone else.

Can't imagine why a literally autistic person wouldn't want you to use it as an insult, yeah they must be lovely and dumb. Also let me tell you about the jews

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Can't imagine why a literally autistic person wouldn't want you to use it as an insult, yeah they must be lovely and dumb. Also let me tell you about the jews

Is this the autist who uses retard as an insult?

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Fututor Magnus posted:

I'm sure we all want to know what Rev's definition of "oppressed" is, and thankfully, there's an entire sharticle he's written on it.


E: He tweeted it in response to this article.

For somebody who hates liberals like he does, addressing a systemic issue like oppression as though it were a function of the relationship between individuals is liberal as gently caress.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Milo is the Uncle Tom of gays.

Someone explain to me why Uncle Tom is supposed to be bad. Uncle Tom was a cool guy.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Hermetic posted:

Careful. There are some severely lovely people in this thread that flip out if you use autistic as an insult.

That said, you're 100% right, autistic white tech dudes are pretty much the worst, and responsible for making tech and related fields awful for anyone else.

There’s this TV show that’s popular right now, Broad City, about a half-jew and a half-friend of the family who run around New York City acting comically irresponsible, just like the friend of the family heroes of the stories that our commie scumbag teachers used to read to us in elementary school. I know about it because my gf and her friends like it.

I know a half friend of the family who’s moving into a sweet apartment on a housing voucher and I have to pretend to be happy for her. I’m a pretty good actor, but it’s tough.

I know a bunch of older men who are out of work who think it’s still the ’70s and they must be doing something wrong on their applications or whatever. They get mad at me when I point to the labor force participation and tell them there aren’t jobs for White men.

Younger White men know that they need to keep their heads down, work twice as hard as their mud “co-workers”, show up whenever they’re told on a moment’s notice, and smile.

If you’re a mud person, or a woman, or a human being, there are organizations looking out for you. If you’re White, there’s only one organization that kkkares.

We can do this the easy way, with Trump legalizing a non-paramilitary KKK organization and generally liberalizing the laws regulating what kinds of freedom of association are permitted to allow Whites to compete, or the hard way, starting by lynching everyone who was involved in primary education 20 years ago.

You can’t just tell people that they’re White and they deserve to be cucked because of what their ancestors did. Helping us tell Whites that we’re White is the dumbest thing the Jews ever did, even worse than ruining cuckstainty.

Evrart Claire
Jan 11, 2008

Jack of Hearts posted:

Someone explain to me why Uncle Tom is supposed to be bad. Uncle Tom was a cool guy.

Because there was nothing back then from stopping a bunch of shitheads from doing their own Uncle Tom's Cabin performances where Uncle Tom is practically the opposite of the original version of him until that version is the one that more people associated with the name.

Hermetic
Sep 7, 2007

by exmarx

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Can't imagine why a literally autistic person wouldn't want you to use it as an insult, yeah they must be lovely and dumb. Also let me tell you about the jews

And I can't imagine how it could have been handled a thousand times better than it was, or how I find it interesting that no one was jumping on anyone else just using "autistic" as an insult. Feel free to use me as a wall to throw your hate at, though. Gotta get those negative emotions out somehow, right? :)

Jack of Hearts posted:

Someone explain to me why Uncle Tom is supposed to be bad. Uncle Tom was a cool guy.

Because he was okay with the system oppressing him, even though it killed him. While he was miles more tolerable than Milo, they still both are okay with a system that rejects their personhood. Hopefully it won't end as painfully for Milo as it did for Tom.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Hermetic posted:

And I can't imagine how it could have been handled a thousand times better than it was, or how I find it interesting that no one was jumping on anyone else just using "autistic" as an insult. Feel free to use me as a wall to throw your hate at, though. Gotta get those negative emotions out somehow, right? :)


Because he was okay with the system oppressing him, even though it killed him. While he was miles more tolerable than Milo, they still both are okay with a system that rejects their personhood. Hopefully it won't end as painfully for Milo as it did for Tom.

Nazis are socialists, socialists are stupid.

Nazis are, however, a lot smarter than Bernie’s fans, and would damage America far less. Bernie would do a high IQ Chavez. And if you think a high IQ Chavez is better than a low IQ Chavez, reflect on what happened to Haiti ruled by NGOs and Russia ruled by Jewish socialists.

You might think a low IQ black Haitian thug is dumber than a high IQ Harvard educated NGO functionary, but a low IQ black thug knows that milk comes from farmers and houses come from carpenters, while high IQ Harvard educated NGO functionary thinks “you did not build that”.

Hermetic
Sep 7, 2007

by exmarx

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Nazis are socialists, socialists are stupid.

Nazis are, however, a lot smarter than Bernie’s fans, and would damage America far less. Bernie would do a high IQ Chavez. And if you think a high IQ Chavez is better than a low IQ Chavez, reflect on what happened to Haiti ruled by NGOs and Russia ruled by Jewish socialists.

You might think a low IQ black Haitian thug is dumber than a high IQ Harvard educated NGO functionary, but a low IQ black thug knows that milk comes from farmers and houses come from carpenters, while high IQ Harvard educated NGO functionary thinks “you did not build that”.

Your bit is stale. Please find a new troll persona before they stop probating you and just drop a permaban. Thank you and god bless.

Frogisis
Apr 15, 2003

relax brother relax

Jack of Hearts posted:

Someone explain to me why Uncle Tom is supposed to be bad. Uncle Tom was a cool guy.

I was always told it was the way he was a portrait of what amounts to Stockholm Syndrome (goodness it's almost as if slavery and oppression can warp people in many different ways).

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Hermetic posted:

Your bit is stale. Please find a new troll persona before they stop probating you and just drop a permaban. Thank you and god bless.

Hermetic, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? It’s the current year, loving WHITE MALEs know what who are, and if it comes to a race war, loving WHITE MALEs have a pretty good track record.

Ridiculous that you first deny that race exists, then offer to acknowledge that our nations exist as long as your sand hundred rule over them; this is more brazen than the disingenuousness Hitler mentioned in Mein Kampf. If you’re really so desperate, you have nuclear weapons in Israel, so take your people and go home before we decide that if we can’t have a home neither can you.

loving WHITE MALEs know who is a loving WHITE MALE just as surely as you do, and yes, I choose loving WHITE MALEs over mud people every time, because loving WHITE MALEs have been shown for the past 70 years, i.e. for the entire lifetimes of every loving WHITE MALE in the country, that if loving WHITE MALEs don’t hang together, they will surely be cucked or beaten to death separately.

But this is retarded. There’s no point in arguing with the shadow of cuckstainty that is lolbergtarianism. The simple answer is that I love my people.

Hermetic
Sep 7, 2007

by exmarx

Frogisis posted:

I was always told it was the way he was a portrait of what amounts to Stockholm Syndrome (goodness it's almost as if slavery and oppression can warp people in many different ways).

A lot of the "bow and scrape" elements of what we think of as an "uncle tom", as Zerilan pointed out, comes from adaptations made by bigots, usually for minstrelsy. That said, Tom, even as Stowe wrote him, is a character that, if one rejects Christianity and the idea of Christian martyrdom, is fairly complicit in his own brutal enslavement.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Hermetic posted:

Because he was okay with the system oppressing him, even though it killed him. While he was miles more tolerable than Milo, they still both are okay with a system that rejects their personhood. Hopefully it won't end as painfully for Milo as it did for Tom.

Frogisis posted:

I was always told it was the way he was a portrait of what amounts to Stockholm Syndrome (goodness it's almost as if slavery and oppression can warp people in many different ways).

People should actually read the book. It's very earnestly Christian in the way that American literature was at the time -- see also e.g. Little Women -- but neither of these critiques actually apply. The way it's used is that it refers to "member of minority <x>" who is a stooge for "establishment <x>," and that just doesn't make sense.

Zerilan posted:

Because there was nothing back then from stopping a bunch of shitheads from doing their own Uncle Tom's Cabin performances where Uncle Tom is practically the opposite of the original version of him until that version is the one that more people associated with the name.

This is plausible, though. But people really need to stop using the term.

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

Jack of Hearts posted:

This is plausible, though. But people really need to stop using the term.

It's not just plausible, it's documented.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Heresiarch posted:

It's not just plausible, it's documented.

Neato.

So people using the term pejoratively are adopting the language of racist shitheads. I feel like they shouldn't do that. "Quisling" doesn't entirely fit, most of the time, but c'mon, there's gotta be a better word.

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

Jack of Hearts posted:

Neato.

So people using the term pejoratively are adopting the language of racist shitheads. I feel like they shouldn't do that. "Quisling" doesn't entirely fit, most of the time, but c'mon, there's gotta be a better word.

"Useful idiot" comes pretty close, even though it was originally a term used to disparage leftists. But no, there isn't a good term for "member of an oppressed minority who acts against his peoples' interests to further his own personal goals" that isn't steeped in racist rhetoric.

Frogisis
Apr 15, 2003

relax brother relax
"Sellout" is a pretty reliable standby.

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

Frogisis posted:

"Sellout" is a pretty reliable standby.

Doesn't have the right connotations, it suggests an indie rocker signing onto a record label, or something else relating to aesthetics and not oppression. The sellout is specifically betraying his artistic audience, or possibly his fellows in an artistic movement.

Yes, I care deeply about the nuances of language and meaning, why do you ask?

See also the comedy "Dolchstoßlegende" option.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp
Yo, ftr I am the parent of an autistic kid and I find it deeply offensive when "autistic" is used as an insult. It's extra worrisome to me since the day he saw that usage in some lovely YouTube comments and asked me about it. In summary, don't loving do it and don't poo poo up the thread whining about being told not to do it.

Aside: what term is being filtered to loving WHITE MALE? Because that is glorious.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


Jack of Hearts posted:

Neato.

So people using the term pejoratively are adopting the language of racist shitheads. I feel like they shouldn't do that. "Quisling" doesn't entirely fit, most of the time, but c'mon, there's gotta be a better word.

Malcolm X liked "house Negro" and its more vulgar counterpart, but I would advise those with white skin to use it with extreme caution.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Just use the term "liberal" since it's accurate.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Lottery of Babylon posted:

Hermetic, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? It’s the current year, loving WHITE MALEs know what who are, and if it comes to a race war, loving WHITE MALEs have a pretty good track record.

Ridiculous that you first deny that race exists, then offer to acknowledge that our nations exist as long as your sand hundred rule over them; this is more brazen than the disingenuousness Hitler mentioned in Mein Kampf. If you’re really so desperate, you have nuclear weapons in Israel, so take your people and go home before we decide that if we can’t have a home neither can you.

loving WHITE MALEs know who is a loving WHITE MALE just as surely as you do, and yes, I choose loving WHITE MALEs over mud people every time, because loving WHITE MALEs have been shown for the past 70 years, i.e. for the entire lifetimes of every loving WHITE MALE in the country, that if loving WHITE MALEs don’t hang together, they will surely be cucked or beaten to death separately.

But this is retarded. There’s no point in arguing with the shadow of cuckstainty that is lolbergtarianism. The simple answer is that I love my people.

I am a loving white male, so of course I support Trump. I am not a goddamn human being, so naturally I support Trump. However, I would vote for Trump solely because of his attitude. Keep in mind that Trump is NEVER going to implement any of his promises – but what of it? Donald Trump is worth sustaining merely to annoy the liberals.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

pookel posted:

Aside: what term is being filtered to loving WHITE MALE? Because that is glorious.




AJP’s Klan didn’t think White ethnics counted as Americans, but Moonman’s triple-K understands the principle of ORION. There are all manner of organizations that take care of all manner of mud people or women, cripples, and queers, but if you’re a loving WHITE MALE, there’s only one Klan that cares if you live or die; support it or be a cuck.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Woolie Wool posted:

Malcolm X liked "house Negro" and its more vulgar counterpart, but I would advise those with white skin to use it with extreme caution.

That, at least, expresses a true meaning that "Uncle Tom" doesn't. I don't think calling Milo a "house homosexual" is outrageous, and it's a lot better than the alternatives.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Jack of Hearts posted:

I don't think calling Milo a "house homosexual" is outrageous, and it's a lot better than the alternatives.

You could just call him an idiot.

I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax

Tesseraction posted:

You could just call him an idiot.

This is probably the safest option. "A total shithead" also works.

Also holy loving lol at Hermetic still being incredibly salty about that.

Hermetic
Sep 7, 2007

by exmarx

Tesseraction posted:

You could just call him an idiot.

I think it's the urge to classify the TYPE of idiot. Eventually calling every dipshit that crosses your path an idiot gets boring.

Frogisis
Apr 15, 2003

relax brother relax
"Under-the-bus-thrower" for that whimsical, Seussian tone.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


pookel posted:

Aside: what term is being filtered to loving WHITE MALE? Because that is glorious.

Nothing, at least in his post. By quoting a post, you can view the uncensored post, and "loving WHITE MALE" still appears in it even though the filter is removed from the c-word.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Race Traitor is a good one too.

Also "Uncle Tom" is the word society chose to use for this regardless of its actual applicability or racist underpinnings, language is dumb and bad at this sort of thing, :dealwithit:

Hermetic posted:

And I can't imagine how it could have been handled a thousand times better than it was, or how I find it interesting that no one was jumping on anyone else just using "autistic" as an insult. Feel free to use me as a wall to throw your hate at, though. Gotta get those negative emotions out somehow, right? :)

In this case you kinda jumped on yourself, but as to why you feel singly targeted by the ~PC Police~ it's because you're the only one who consistently makes a big whiny baby deal over not just saying "oh sorry man" and moving on.

pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp

Woolie Wool posted:

Nothing, at least in his post. By quoting a post, you can view the uncensored post, and "loving WHITE MALE" still appears in it even though the filter is removed from the c-word.
:vince:

That really looked like a word filter, though. D'oh.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Mods please change name to loving WHITE MALE tyia

Fututor Magnus
Feb 22, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Pope Guilty posted:

For somebody who hates liberals like he does, addressing a systemic issue like oppression as though it were a function of the relationship between individuals is liberal as gently caress.

If you mean classical liberal. I pretty sure liberals don't think that history has had no effect on society and that all exists in a vacuum devoid of historical context.

E.G Rev argued that African societies had some form of slavery and that they had social hierarchies, so whenever black Americans claim to be oppressed by whites, it just that they're not getting what they demand from whites.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Hermetic posted:

And I can't imagine how it could have been handled a thousand times better than it was, or how I find it interesting that no one was jumping on anyone else just using "autistic" as an insult. Feel free to use me as a wall to throw your hate at, though. Gotta get those negative emotions out somehow, right? :)


Because he was okay with the system oppressing him, even though it killed him. While he was miles more tolerable than Milo, they still both are okay with a system that rejects their personhood. Hopefully it won't end as painfully for Milo as it did for Tom.

Because you keep coming back with these smug little smileys and 'y u so mad' comments when someone points out that mocking people with a disproportionally high suicide risk due to the difficulties they experience with fitting into society is a pretty awful thing to do. Look, you know what you're doing, and deliberately trying to wind people up because they have to nerve to care about disadvantaged minorities is both deeply uncool and exactly what this thread was built to rip the poo poo out of.

loving end it, dude.

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!
When I searched for "Insults for a self-hating gay man" all I got was that video where Joe Rogan calls Milo an idiot for claiming that Christian morality was objectively the best while being a promiscuous sodomite.

Hermetic
Sep 7, 2007

by exmarx

Parallel Paraplegic posted:

Race Traitor is a good one too.

Also "Uncle Tom" is the word society chose to use for this regardless of its actual applicability or racist underpinnings, language is dumb and bad at this sort of thing, :dealwithit:


In this case you kinda jumped on yourself, but as to why you feel singly targeted by the ~PC Police~ it's because you're the only one who consistently makes a big whiny baby deal over not just saying "oh sorry man" and moving on.

Nah, I said sorry once, and some spaz poo poo on that, so now I'm just warning better people of the shitbags in the thread. Must be awful to be angered by something that minor. And I never said anything about "PC Police", just a couple of lovely morons who think that typing on a computer screen should mean that talking civilly about poo poo goes right out the window. :)

In summation, back off and get to laughing at neo-reactionaries. Thanks for your compliance, friendo.

Darth Walrus posted:

Because you keep coming back with these smug little smileys and 'y u so mad' comments when someone points out that mocking people with a disproportionally high suicide risk due to the difficulties they experience with fitting into society is a pretty awful thing to do. Look, you know what you're doing, and deliberately trying to wind people up because they have to nerve to care about disadvantaged minorities is both deeply uncool and exactly what this thread was built to rip the poo poo out of.

loving end it, dude.

If we're gonna get pissy about people using mental illness to describe stuff, could you not use suicide for your concern trolling. As a suicidal depression survivor that's kinda lovely. Tia god bless, take your own advice, etc. :3:

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I Killed GBS
Jun 2, 2011

by Lowtax
Nah, you gave a really pathetic half-assed "I'm sorry if you were offended" and then started flinging your poo poo at everyone who looked at you funny, hooting and shrieking the whole time.

Darth Walrus posted:

Because you keep coming back with these smug little smileys and 'y u so mad' comments when someone points out that mocking people with a disproportionally high suicide risk due to the difficulties they experience with fitting into society is a pretty awful thing to do. Look, you know what you're doing, and deliberately trying to wind people up because they have to nerve to care about disadvantaged minorities is both deeply uncool and exactly what this thread was built to rip the poo poo out of.

loving end it, dude.

He's not trolling. He's legitimately that stupid and thin-skinned.

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Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Hermetic posted:

Nah, I said sorry once, and some spaz poo poo on that, so now I'm just warning better people of the shitbags in the thread. Must be awful to be angered by something that minor. And I never said anything about "PC Police", just a couple of lovely morons who think that typing on a computer screen should mean that talking civilly about poo poo goes right out the window. :)

In summation, back off and get to laughing at neo-reactionaries. Thanks for your compliance, friendo.


If we're gonna get pissy about people using mental illness to describe stuff, could you not use suicide for your concern trolling. As a suicidal depression survivor that's kinda lovely. Tia god bless, take your own advice, etc. :3:

q: how did Whites evolve
a: winter means White man needs to build a house and invite a woman to live with him. Woman can get a better deal from the next guy than to be second wife of first guy, codified as slut shaming since everyone resents bastards except for the father, including the mother. Monogamy takes hold, leading to selective pressure for cooperativeness because building up the community is the only way to have more children and grandchildren, and extreme selective pressure for beauty.

q: why didn’t this happen to other groups in harsh climates
a: feather indians, mongols, eskimos never developed houses. rice friend of the familys became polygamous due to the collective farming required to grow rice, meaning rice friend of the family men turned into pathetic betas and rice friend of the family women turned into sluts trying to get nailed by the alpha and stay beautiful until menopause to keep the alpha’s attention to get resources for the rice friendlets.

q: why do Whites fill continents
a: because Whites like to cooperate and build

q: why do Whites win race wars
a: because when Whites like to cooperate, then go and each take one woman. White stories are full of evil men who deceive good men to their deaths so they can marry some relative; sand friend of the family stories are full of evil men who deceive good men to their deaths so they can take their wives into their harems.

q: why can anonymous Internet racists get it right when Harvard academics get it wrong
a: because Harvard academics are namefagging, which is why universities are obsolete

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