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HUMAN FISH posted:I always thought that Li was Claes Anderssons daughter, thank you TS for telling me I'm wrong. Her father is a well known industrial artist. This is his work: http://www.tampere.fi/taidemuseo/kokoelmat/taidekilpailu.html
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Kemper Boyd posted:They usually have free guided tours of the Cathedral in the summer once a day, so you might want to check that out. Some of the stuff they got there is mindboggling. Btw, if you visit the Castle, have at least three hours reserved because it's huge. Forum Marinum next to the Castle is also cool as hell and they just re-did their basic exhibition. We visited the castle basically every year when I was in school (because it was cheap I guess) and I've never seen most of it because large parts were being renovated for 20 years. I should go now that it's mostly open. Also  Hummpub but also agree.Go to Pomponrahka there are 100000 different spiders there and you're a pompo so you'll fit right in.
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Jun 7, 2016 13:33
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Nenonen posted:she's Bruce Li's daughter lol
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Jun 7, 2016 13:33
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go to tinatuoppi
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Jun 7, 2016 13:34
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I do not find Li Andersson generally disagreeable so she is an ok choice. She has a stupid stance on nuclear power but so has the entire rest of the left for some loving reason.
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Jun 7, 2016 13:58
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Wait, I thought Li was a Green.
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Elukka posted:I do not find Li Andersson generally disagreeable so she is an ok choice. She has a stupid stance on nuclear power but so has the entire rest of the left for some loving reason. What's her stance on nuclear power?
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Jun 7, 2016 14:13
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Cerebral Bore posted:What's her stance on nuclear power? Probably pro-renewable energy sources. Which to me is a good idea.
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Darkest Auer posted:Wait, I thought Li was a Green. You mean like a reptilian?
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Rexroom posted:Probably pro-renewable energy sources. Which to me is a good idea. Nuclear energy is renewable if you want to get technical.
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Elukka posted:I do not find Li Andersson generally disagreeable so she is an ok choice. She has a stupid stance on nuclear power but so has the entire rest of the left for some loving reason. I thought we had moved beyond pro/contra nuclear power stances now that we have proved beyond reasonable doubt that we actually can't build a nuclear plant without it turning into an enormous financial fiasco and shitfest.
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Yeah, there's a pretty significant difference between believing that Satan resides in the foul plutonium and that Olkiluoto 3 is a godforsaken decade-long piece of poo poo of a project and the money thrown into that black hole could have gone to better use.
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Jun 7, 2016 14:41
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Yeah if only they'd built solar panels instead, we know construction problems, delays and cost overruns only happen with nuclear power
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Jun 7, 2016 15:40
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As far as I understand, it's less about cost overruns and delays than about Areva using the cheapest labor and materials possible and STUK insisting on proper inspections and, you know, not having a catastrophic accident in the first five years because "eh, it's good enough" isn't really good enough for nuclear power plants.
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Solar panels don't rack up cost overruns in the billions of euros either. But I suppose that it's heartening to know that GP still hasn't found an example of corporate malfeasance and corner-cutting that he won't support.
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Kemper Boyd posted:They usually have free guided tours of the Cathedral in the summer once a day, so you might want to check that out. Some of the stuff they got there is mindboggling. Btw, if you visit the Castle, have at least three hours reserved because it's huge. Forum Marinum next to the Castle is also cool as hell and they just re-did their basic exhibition. Cool, thanks! 
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Kemper Boyd posted:They usually have free guided tours of the Cathedral in the summer once a day, so you might want to check that out. Some of the stuff they got there is mindboggling. Btw, if you visit the Castle, have at least three hours reserved because it's huge. Forum Marinum next to the Castle is also cool as hell and they just re-did their basic exhibition. What's wrong with Mantun these days?
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Buffalo squeeze posted:What's wrong with Mantun these days? Kinda half-joking about how one gets one's rear end kicked there. Unironically I'd avoid the grilli at the cathedral because they are really bad about hygiene.
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Kemper Boyd posted:Kinda half-joking about how one gets one's rear end kicked there. Oh, okay, thought it was a quality thing like Krema you mentioned, which was good back when mummot ran it.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Solar panels don't rack up cost overruns in the billions of euros either. But I suppose that it's heartening to know that GP still hasn't found an example of corporate malfeasance and corner-cutting that he won't support. You're right, solar panels wouldn't suffer from overruns or delays because (insert CB logic here) And yeah, it's too bad that Areva built the plant instead of the government, which has a great track record. Who wouldn't want a French company to bear the costs for the overruns when the Finnish government can?
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Cerebral Bore posted:Solar panels don't rack up cost overruns in the billions of euros either. But I suppose that it's heartening to know that GP still hasn't found an example of corporate malfeasance and corner-cutting that he won't support. Solar panels are environmentally destructive as all hell and have a substantial cost overrun in the form of "eh it isn't even worth operating them, just build and scrap to lose less money". Concentrated solar is a decent idea in places called "not loving Finland". It would probably be cheaper to rent land in Greece and produce the power there and build the infrastructure to power Finland that way than to try solar power this far north. Wind power brings in a decent amount, but you also need base production - where your options are pretty much hydro, nuclear and coal, and we're already using all the hydro we can without converting vast stretches of erämaa into power generating regions. Meanwhile, nuclear works fine if people like Areva or Kokoomus aren't cutting enough corners to turn the project into a perfect sphere. It's the kind of project where you need to commit to doing it right, though, and if there's something the Finnish governments of past 20 years can't do to save their lives, it's to commit to an idea.
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endlessmonotony posted:Solar panels are environmentally destructive as all hell and have a substantial cost overrun in the form of "eh it isn't even worth operating them, just build and scrap to lose less money". Things went fine before Kokoomus got out of the opposition shame corner.
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endlessmonotony posted:Solar panels are environmentally destructive as all hell and have a substantial cost overrun in the form of "eh it isn't even worth operating them, just build and scrap to lose less money". solar power does better in finland than in germany, but yeah it won't ever be a major energy source here, but it could and should be increased building solar plants in greece would be a smart move, but building a siirtoverkko through europe would be retarded and the energiahäviöt would be massive nuclear is the only option for us, it's just a pity that our retards paid corrupt frogs to hire polish puliukot to build the plant
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Also solar energy doesn't need to be used to produce electricity to be both ecological and economical; in Summer it would be very sensible to use it to heat water.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Also solar energy doesn't need to be used to produce electricity to be both ecological and economical; in Summer it would be very sensible to use it to heat water. We have been doing that, but the water is still only lukewarm by July 25th.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Gllrrrbgh.... brlghrh What's with the av? (Guess you didn't buy it.) Your last one was my favourite in all of the forums 
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Hogge Wild posted:solar power does better in finland than in germany why
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Darkest Auer posted:As far as I understand, it's less about cost overruns and delays than about Areva using the cheapest labor and materials possible and STUK insisting on proper inspections and, you know, not having a catastrophic accident in the first five years because "eh, it's good enough" isn't really good enough for nuclear power plants. Another problem that would've been solved by killing the rich.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Another problem that would've been solved by killing the rich. Ultimately all problems are
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His Divine Shadow posted:Another problem that would've been solved by killing the rich. I don't know, the previous lot who killed the rich didn't have that great track record with nuclear safety.
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Well... Kill the poor then too!
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His Divine Shadow posted:Well... Kill the poor then too! Only the ahkera ones though.
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To be sure, make sure you kill all engineers twice over. All major fuckups in human history have involved engineers.
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Nenonen posted:To be sure, make sure you kill all engineers twice over. All major fuckups in human history have involved engineers. Never met a nice engineer.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Never met a nice engineer. 
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I'm the MUUMA.
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I'm [K]OVUUS.
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That stupid rear end clock is never 
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http://www.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/2016060821691089_uu.shtml Better hope this this hole works out because wind and solar will never be viable energy sources in Finland.
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Nenonen posted:To be sure, make sure you kill all engineers twice over. All major fuckups in human history have involved engineers. Yes if everyone was a humanist or on womens studies and discussing the problem of gender being a social construct, and explaining it is perfectly normal (and even commendable) to identify as being black when you are white, or perhaps a giraffe or a chair, and writing teary-eyed blogs or editorials on the the topic of why Middle-Eastern men (surely the most tolerant of them all) need special freedoms then all problems would disappear... But those drat educated engineers who build, invent and fix poo poo!!  (hint: i know he was joking, don't be triggered)
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