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Zoness posted:The point is that she mei be annoying but she's not so strong as to need nerfs, if mei were nerfed she would be outright unplayable and she's already not in a good place. If you're good enough at aiming to be hitting longrange headshots with Mei you could instead play Widowmaker and singlehandedly win games until your mmr is high enough to play against other bullshit Widow players. Or something. I do wish something could be done to make Mei playable in team games because she's fun, but alas.
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Mei's ult is comparable to Hanzo's anyways. His denies a rectangle of space for three seconds or kills them. While mei denies about an equal amount of space [in one spot] for five seconds but freezes targets if they stay too long instead of killing them outright.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:27
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Dias posted:Yes. "Sorry, sorry, I'm sorry, sorry" when it's right on the spawn's exit during setup. Might be just me tho. The "sorry sorry" line is just a equipable voice line, doesn't have anything to do with ice wall.
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Edit: double post, also I'm dumb vvv
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Jun 8, 2016 19:28
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Fat Aggression posted:The "sorry sorry" line is just a equipable voice line, doesn't have anything to do with ice wall. he's saying he spams that line when he walls people into their spawn, as is his god-given right
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Jun 8, 2016 19:29
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Your Computer posted:Maybe there's something wrong with your game, she yells loud and clear in mine. McCree is easily the loudest, but Torb, Hanzo and Genji aren't too far behind. After that it's Pharah, Mercy, Zenyatta, Winston, Reaper, and Lucio, loud but not demanding. Junkrat I'm not sure if he says anything, but the rip start to the wheel is loud, and the way it increases as it gets closer to you is helpful. Widowmaker, Soldier 76, Symmetra and Bastion are on the softer side, Mei is dead silent, the ground just starts freezing. Tracer just has beeping, if not for the icon I'd probably miss her quantum bomb. Reinhardt and Roadhog don't seem to say anything, or if they do it's lost in the fact that their ultimate itself is both loud and instant. Never hear what D.Va says, even though I know it's "Nerf this!", I just hear a mech rocketing across the battlefield and see a flashing red icon. Haven't seen enough Zarya's to comment on how loud she sounds. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Jun 8, 2016 19:33
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Like, there's nothing quiet about it at all, it's as loud as Hanzo or Pharah or anyone else.
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I never even realized mei had a callout until this argument, and i play with headphones on, so all of you claiming to hear it as loud as mcrees or hanzos can kindly stop pretending.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:37
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I've never had any problems hearing her callout so I think you're just deaf.
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The Shortest Path posted:If you're good enough at aiming to be hitting longrange headshots with Mei you could instead play Widowmaker and singlehandedly win games until your mmr is high enough to play against other bullshit Widow players. Or something. she can boost symmetra or torb for obnoxious first turret placements for ult charge probably best with symmetra so you can use her teleporter to switch to a better hero
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NTRabbit posted:McCree is easily the loudest, but Torb, Hanzo and Genji aren't too far behind. After that it's Pharah, Mercy, Zenyatta, Winston, Reaper, and Lucio, loud but not demanding. Junkrat I'm not sure if he says anything, but the rip start to the wheel is loud, and the way it increases as it gets closer to you is helpful. Widowmaker, Soldier 76, Symmetra and Bastion are on the softer side, Mei is dead silent, the ground just starts freezing. Tracer just has beeping, if not for the icon I'd probably miss her quantum bomb. Reinhardt and Roadhog don't seem to say anything, or if they do it's lost in the fact that their ultimate itself is both loud and instant. Never heard what D.Va says, I just hear a mech rocketing across the battlefield with a flashing red icon. Haven't seen enough Zarya's to comment on how loud she sounds. this is all very strange to me, maybe it's something with peoples' sound settings? everybody except widowmaker, winston and roadhog has a very loud, clear callout when they're using their ultimate. widowmaker's is quiet on purpose, roadhog is just him laughing, and winston is a roar. i find it very suspicious that you've never heard HAMMER DOWN, FIRE IN THE HOOOOOLE or NERF THIS cause come on those are some of the most obvious ones in the game
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NTRabbit posted:Junkrat I'm not sure if he says anything, but the rip start to the wheel is loud, and the way it increases as it gets closer to you is helpful. FIRE IN THE HOLE is extremely prominent
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Kerrrrrrr posted:this is all very strange to me, maybe it's something with peoples' sound settings? everybody except widowmaker, winston and roadhog has a very loud, clear callout when they're using their ultimate. widowmaker's is quiet on purpose, roadhog is just him laughing, and winston is a roar. I remembered nerf this after I posted, from when I played her myself, but I don't hear it when others are doing it, all the "loving run she's done it again" alarms going off cover it up. Fire in the hole sounds familiar, never heard hammer down, I just hear a big loving hammer coming down.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:41
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I don't consistently get enemy/ally callouts in different languages/lines. I hear Hanzos use both languages on both sides, for example, and not in killcams. When I Zarya Ult I usually hear the russian line and I've heard enemy mercy use both "Heroes never die" and "Helden Sterben Nicht" I haven't really paid much mind to it since in premades you can just ask who ulted and you usually say "i'm ulting" anyway. Zoness fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Jun 8, 2016 19:45
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Kerrrrrrr posted:this is all very strange to me, maybe it's something with peoples' sound settings? everybody except widowmaker, winston and roadhog has a very loud, clear callout when they're using their ultimate. widowmaker's is quiet on purpose, roadhog is just him laughing, and winston is a roar. I've heard literally all of them except mei's. I just never noticed it since im always frantically trying to escape it.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:48
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I'm glad that at least half of my matches today have been on Temple of Anubis. Delete this stupid loving map from the game, tia Blizz.
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NTRabbit posted:, never heard hammer down, I just hear a big loving hammer coming down. Fun fact about his ult, if he starts the animation but gets knocked into the air, he will hold the animation until he touches the ground. Otherwise his scream blends into the hammer attack audio.
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NTRabbit posted:I remembered nerf this after I posted, from when I played her myself, but I don't hear it when others are doing it, all the "loving run she's done it again" alarms going off cover it up. Fire in the hole sounds familiar, never heard hammer down, I just hear a big loving hammer coming down. once again proving you have no loving clue what you are talking about, maybe play the game more before you complain about problems that don't exist
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Jun 8, 2016 19:50
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Zoness posted:I don't consistently get enemy/ally callouts in different languages/lines. I hear Hanzos use both languages on both sides, for example, and not in killcams. When I Zarya Ult I usually hear the russian line and I've heard enemy mercy use both "Heroes never die" and "Helden Sterben Nicht" Then you're not parsing it correctly. Callouts are definitely different for allies/enemies and sometimes different situations (e.g. tracer)
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Jun 8, 2016 19:50
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i play with headphones on and have never heard a sound of any sort do i need to plug them in
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New goal: get good at Genji. It just feels so good when things go well as Genji and I want that to happen more often. Prerequisite: find groups where someone, anyone else is willing to play support, holy poo poo
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Vermain posted:Her kit as it stands is an absolute hot mess of balance. You can't really increase her damage or reduce her time-to-freeze more than they currently are without her feeling woefully oppressive, and more coordinated teams can largely circumvent her or just kill her from range. I suspect she's just going to be kept in the "mediocre but playable" zone for most of this game's life until (if) they do a pass on her kit. There are other ways to tweak Mei, you know
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do genji's throwing stars have damage falloff with distance?
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Tales of Woe posted:do genji's throwing stars have damage falloff with distance? no Harrow posted:New goal: get good at Genji. It just feels so good when things go well as Genji and I want that to happen more often. I have the same problems  . I know the sequence for loving over the standard sniper spots on anubis as genji but I really want more practice on other maps. I love attacking anubis point A as genji because you get a whole half of the map that you want the defense to focus on as you harass their backline. Thanks for listening to my tale of Genji.Kerrrrrrr posted:this poo poo is literally in the OP but nobody reads OPs anymore so i'll just... leave this here! Reading OPs in a blizzard subforum thread definitely goes against everything I believe in. Zoness fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Jun 8, 2016 19:56
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NTRabbit posted:Fire in the hole sounds familiar maybe if it was spelled FIYYAAH IN THA HAUUUL (cause it's junkrat) Zoness posted:I don't consistently get enemy/ally callouts in different languages/lines. I hear Hanzos use both languages on both sides, for example, and not in killcams. When I Zarya Ult I usually hear the russian line and I've heard enemy mercy use both "Heroes never die" and "Helden Sterben Nicht" the non-english lines/extra loud lines are when either YOU are ulting, or when the enemy is ulting. so you'll hear yourself say gotovnosti, the enemy will say gotovnosti, but a zarya teammate says fire at will. this poo poo is literally in the OP but nobody reads OPs anymore so i'll just... leave this here! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSQaVF5kmdc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tH3QhM4tGw edit: well some of the lines in those videos are old but you get the idea. Kerrzhe fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Specifically, the only projectile that has damage falloff is Mei's icicle. All hitscan weapons have falloff except for either of Widowmaker's gun's modes. Lady Naga fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Jun 8, 2016 20:02
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Lady Naga posted:Specifically, no projectiles have damage falloff, only hitscans (except for Widowmaker's assault mode for whatever reason.) Mei's icicle has falloff
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FatSamurai posted:I really wish they would get rid of Mei's slowdown, make it less severe, or have it be a separate setting on her weapon secondary to damage. When other heroes ambush you, you have a chance to get away or fight back, but Mei's freeze acts so fast whenever I get hit I just let go of my mouse and wait while she has her ten minutes to line up a headshot to kill me. I can deal with any other kills but being slowly buried in snow is just the worst. Don't wander off solo! Its kinda lovely dying to Mei like that, but she can't really single you out unless you get icewalled off. Its like nothing compared to the head hitboxes allowing for hanzo/widow to pick you off as you round a corner. Or McCree/Roadhog CCing then blowing you up.
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Countblanc posted:Mei's icicle has falloff I literally just edited this in you jeeeerk
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Dear Blizzard, please read my 90-page dissertation on how McCree is ruining the game. Oh by the way, what's an ult callout?
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Indecisive posted:once again proving you have no loving clue what you are talking about, maybe play the game more before you complain about problems that don't exist You're defective, the problems exist, I'm not the only one saying it, and you're unwilling or unable to admit Senpai has problems
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I do like how "some of the ult callouts are too quiet, especially mei" is now "what is an ult callout?"
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Jun 8, 2016 20:08
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I can maaaaybe understand not hearing Widowmaker's callout but you legitimately have to either have ear problems or be listening to something else to not hear callouts, least of all 冻住，不许走! every five minutes.
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WoodrowSkillson posted:I never even realized mei had a callout until this argument, and i play with headphones on, so all of you claiming to hear it as loud as mcrees or hanzos can kindly stop pretending. yeah her's is really quiet and by the time you hear it it's too late
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ya'll deaf or something
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Drakes posted:Its like nothing compared to the head hitboxes allowing for hanzo/widow to pick you off as you round a corner. Or McCree/Roadhog CCing then blowing you up. I was watching Star's stream yesterday and he got headshot by a widow while he was completely behind a wall in the killcam. He was next to the corner but still behind it. The widow couldn't actually see any part of his character model.
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Noam Chomsky posted:yeah her's is really quiet and by the time you hear it it's too late She shouts in Chinese as loud as humanly possible, every single time.
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Lady Naga posted:I literally just edited this in you jeeeerk Death comes.
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pakman posted:I was watching Star's stream yesterday and he got headshot by a widow while he was completely behind a wall in the killcam. He was next to the corner but still behind it. The widow couldn't actually see any part of his character model. That has nothing to do with hitboxes. Countblanc posted:Death comes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjuvjctlMvE
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Yeah the random hero mode is completely ruined by ults. The team that gets Mercy pretty much always wins because they have a healer and she can revive them with their ult charges. So while most of the enemy can't get a single ult up you can comfortably keep your entire team alive because her ult charges so fast.
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