|
Virigoth posted:4 10hr days hands down. WFH usually means you work longer as an overall average. I used to work 4 10s and I loving miss it (although I had a second job where I worked 2 8-14 hour days) Some content: I was told to create a "vendor" ticket for a dumb issue that I have already found 2 solutions for, but they aren't good enough, and it's our policies causing the problem, but no, gotta waste time farting around with Microsoft because management doesn't like my answers.
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2016 20:31
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 12, 2024 15:56 |
|
|
FireSight posted:While the word itself has meaning, the people who USE the word typically use it as a way to say "We are doing stuff, but I have no idea what, and I'm hoping you don't ask for more than superficial details." If someone who does security says "holistic approach to security" I know exactly what they mean. Which happens to be what the words mean. It's not exactly an uncommon concept in security.
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2016 20:34
|
|
|
Robert Half just emailed me. I really want a new job. I'm considering responding 
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2016 22:00
|
|
|
Happiness Commando posted:Robert Half just emailed me. I really want a new job. I'm considering responding The jobs they have aren't real and they are just going to shop a new person to your employer.
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2016 22:02
|
|
|
Happiness Commando posted:Robert Half just emailed me. I really want a new job. I'm considering responding They're trying to get in touch with your current management to replace your department with people getting paid less. Don't tell them anything about your current pay or employer.
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2016 22:36
|
|
|
I wouldn't take 4x10, but only because I've been working 4x9 for the past 3.5 years. 
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2016 23:18
|
|
|
LochNessMonster posted:I wouldn't take 4x10, but only because I've been working 4x9 for the past 3.5 years. Living the dream. When I was working as a bedside RN, I was 3 x 12 hrs. Having 4 days off every week is the good life.
|
|
#
?
Jun 8, 2016 23:21
|
|
|
Happiness Commando posted:Robert Half just emailed me. I really want a new job. I'm considering responding Robert Half just emailed me. I really want a new job.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 06:05
|
|
|
Please educate me about Robert Half, Google isn't doing a great job.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 07:15
|
|
|
SEKCobra posted:Please educate me about Robert Half, Google isn't doing a great job. Dr. Arbitrary posted:They're trying to get in touch with your current management to replace your department with people getting paid less. You tell them you're looking for a new job and what your salary requirements are, so they contact your management and say "SEKCobra is looking for a new gig, let us help you replace him on the cheap!" and your quiet job search is now a thing. Or they contact the CIO of your whole org and offer to outsource your entire department.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 08:02
|
|
|
So the complaint I hear a lot and referenced above is that they will contact you at your current place of work and offer you a different position that may or may not exist. Then they will get some details about your current role, your responsibilities, and current salary so they can obviously make sure a new role is worth your while. Then they will use this information to try and pitch their own candidates to your current employer for less than is being paid for the staff currently, since they know your salary now.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 08:03
|
|
|
SEKCobra posted:Please educate me about Robert Half, Google isn't doing a great job. Purely from what I have heard in this thread: - can't be trusted - will mess up your cv without consulting with you while sending it to companies you guys didn't talk about. - will try to place you for the lowest wage possible so they are most likely to get the signing bonus (not looking out for your best interest). - ask for your salary / wage and go behind your back to your current employer trying to replace you with someone cheaper (and inadvertently telling your boss you're looking for a new job). I hadn't heard of them before I started reading this thread, but I'm sure as hell staying the gently caress away from them (even if only half of the storieswere true). E: beaten like a redheaded stepchild
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 08:06
|
|
|
I'm working 4x9 and it's amazing. The extra free day every week is so worth it
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 08:09
|
|
|
I wasted time meeting with Robert Half years ago, and have read so many horror stories since then that I know if they contact me, I am not interested in anything they have to say. Neurosis question: Anyone else find they spend so much time figuring out which book to read on a subject that they never actually get around to working on it? There are so many possible C# books, how could I possibly pick one, what if it's not the best, what am I missing? Better spend all my time deciding which book and none of my time learning C#.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 08:13
|
|
|
LochNessMonster posted:Purely from what I have heard in this thread: Well that's some scummy poo poo. I can't help to think that all they have to do is basically find two people, then place them in each other's position for a lovely wage.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 08:27
|
|
|
LochNessMonster posted:Purely from what I have heard in this thread: How can this be allowed? This is just completely loving over people they are supposed to help. It should be a mutual benefit.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 08:30
|
|
|
They prey on the peole who aren't familiar with them or those who are desperate to get a (new) job I guess? I havent actually dealt with them myself, the things I mentioned are just the ones I've heard in this thread. They are just looking to place anyone to get their fee. Doesn't matter if it's a fit for either party or if people get fired in a week. They just want their fee, for the least amount of work possible. It's these practices that give recruiters a bad name.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 09:02
|
|
|
Way back when I was trying to break into IT I met with someone at Robert Half. I was waiting in their office while they went to do something, and while they were gone I heard what must've been some daily team meeting happening in the next room over (sound just came through like nothing). The lady leading the meeting went over a few things but I distinctly remember the main thing she conveyed was how they'd made the news due to Glassdoor publishing a list of the most disliked places to work at, and how they could expect to see that and possibly be asked about it. The company line was that it was just a few vocal, unhappy people, because as they all knew everyone *there* liked their jobs. This was all about 20 minutes of me waiting for??? (maybe the person I was meeting was in that meeting for all I know) Also they never contacted me at all afterward.  This sums up my first and only experience with Robert Half.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 12:51
|
|
|
Robert Half found me 2 people that have worked out wonderfully so far. The first person they forgot to send me their resume and set up a interview time. So I was sitting at my desk, unshaven, wearing jeans when I get a call that somebody is up front and ready for their interview. Thanks Robert Half! Guy turned out awesome though! They also sent me a guy who responded with "vmware" when I asked "what IDE" do you use?
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 13:27
|
|
|
Anybody know of a source for WHQL signed VirtIO drivers?
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 14:10
|
|
|
ratbert90 posted:Robert Half found me 2 people that have worked out wonderfully so far. The first person they forgot to send me their resume and set up a interview time. So I was sitting at my desk, unshaven, wearing jeans when I get a call that somebody is up front and ready for their interview. Thanks Robert Half! Guy turned out awesome though! One applicant (not from Robert Half) that made it to the interview stage with me was talking about programming some game and how 'C Pound' was so useful. So I lobbed the "let's get to know you" question of what IDE he liked. He said "I prefer Seagate drives.....but it really doesn't matter for my coding." while giving me a puzzled look. I followed up with "I see....So, what do you write code in?" "I write all my code in dynamic link libraries." I still haven't figured out if he was trying to bullshit his way into a position (as a network admin!) by talking about coding or if he ate just a whole brick of lead before coming to grace my presence.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 14:20
|
|
|
ratbert90 posted:They also sent me a guy who responded with "vmware" when I asked "what IDE" do you use? Sorry, I only use SATA.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 14:20
|
|
|
Arsten posted:One applicant (not from Robert Half) that made it to the interview stage with me was talking about programming some game and how 'C Pound' was so useful. So I lobbed the "let's get to know you" question of what IDE he liked. He said "I prefer Seagate drives.....but it really doesn't matter for my coding." while giving me a puzzled look. I followed up with "I see....So, what do you write code in?" "I write all my code in dynamic link libraries." That's amazing.  GreenNight posted:Sorry, I only use SATA. SAS for life. 
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 14:33
|
|
|
Personal experience with Robert Half has been poor as well. They waste an inordinate amount of your time and want you to take all of their in-house tests and exams to confirm skills. Also pester you to get info about your coworkers and current employer. I have one friend though that did get a helpdesk job through them and had mostly pleasant experiences. Except that later on he found out that they screwed him out of a ton of overtime when he was working hourly.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 14:48
|
|
|
A few months back, some recruiter from Robert Half sent me a position that their finance/accounting people deemed "technical in nature", aka report monkey bullshit like SSRS/Crystal Reports. So they felt like this was an IT gig and contacting me was ok... except I'd repeatedly told this same guy that just because my degree was in finance, I work in IT and have zero interest in finance/accounting.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 15:22
|
|
|
air- posted:A few months back, some recruiter from Robert Half sent me a position that their finance/accounting people deemed "technical in nature", aka report monkey bullshit like SSRS/Crystal Reports. So they felt like this was an IT gig and contacting me was ok... except I'd repeatedly told this same guy that just because my degree was in finance, I work in IT and have zero interest in finance/accounting. Can't you make serious bank as a financial IT specialist? I've never worked at a company where the finance people were able to fix their own software problems
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 15:32
|
|
|
Our finance dude writes the most complicated and crazy Excel queries that I've ever seen. I've gotten in writing that IT won't have to support these from the CFO if the guy decides to leave.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 15:54
|
|
|
mewse posted:Can't you make serious bank as a financial IT specialist? I've never worked at a company where the finance people were able to fix their own software problems If you're willing to down that particular cup of misery, sure.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 16:10
|
|
|
The deal with Robert Half and other huge staffing agencies is that you're just a number and that's how they want it. Business by volume. They hire kids right out of school and tell them to pick up the phone and connect with 50 people a day. Generally speaking their recruiters have very little skin in YOUR game, because they don't have time or incentive to do so. They have to submit 5 or 10 resumes to every job whether you're a fit or not. So this metrics-driven system leads to their poor reputation. Sure, every once in a while they will make a hit because a company would never be that successful if they didn't win sometimes, but in general you can't expect them to have your best interests in mind. If they have a job you want, I'd say deal with it and just take it with a grain of salt. Conversely, if you're a passive seeker looking for a new opportunity then take the time to meet with a few more tenured recruiters at smaller or more boutique-y firms that will hopefully build a longer-term and mutually beneficial relationship with you. Although many of my coworkers came from places like that, there is no way I'd ever work for RHI or any other resume factory. vvvv I see 8 or 9 page resumes on the regular. 18 is my all time high. People are crazy... vvvv Dark Helmut fucked around with this message at 19:19 on Jun 9, 2016 |
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:16
|
|
|
Were interviewing a guy with a 6 page resume. All 6 pages are bullet points with a few paragraphs sprinkles in.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:18
|
|
|
Arsten posted:One applicant (not from Robert Half) that made it to the interview stage with me was talking about programming some game and how 'C Pound' was so useful. So I lobbed the "let's get to know you" question of what IDE he liked. He said "I prefer Seagate drives.....but it really doesn't matter for my coding." while giving me a puzzled look. I followed up with "I see....So, what do you write code in?" "I write all my code in dynamic link libraries."
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:34
|
|
|
My resume is 1 page long. The Cover letter I send is one page long. Anything else should be brought up in the interview. A few more years and my resume will be 1.2 pages long.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:35
|
|
|
Oh I found the best part. He didn't spell check so somewhere on page 5 it says he experience with cum routers and cum switches
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:38
|
|
|
Sepist posted:Oh I found the best part. He didn't spell check so somewhere on page 5 it says he experience with cum routers and cum switches Sounds like he would be a good co-worker to cumvase guy.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:39
|
|
|
One of my resumes is just barely one page, but on another the education is on the second page. I need to figure out what to trim in order to get it down to one. I'm pretty sure I already got rid of all of the lines that were redundant between skills and responsibilities under work. What's the cum switches and routers supposed to be? 22 Eargesplitten fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jun 9, 2016 |
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:44
|
|
|
Semen switches of course.22 Eargesplitten posted:One of my resumes is just barely one page, but on another the education is on the second page. I need to figure out what to trim in order to get it down to one. "Size doesn't matter"  2-3 pages is fine, just assume that unless you get your point across on page 1, no one is going to care about page 2 or 3.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:46
|
|
|
someone who absolutely insisted on having admin access installed teamviewer on their work pc, set up unattended access and didn't bother to secure it in anything that resembles even the slightest attempt "we got hacked" 
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:50
|
|
|
Dark Helmut posted:Semen switches of course. Okay, good. I'm not exaggerating when I say the only thing on the second page is education. And since I graduated from a community college and not an Ivy League school, that's probably the best part to make them turn the page for. I'm really hoping that degree will help me not be unemployed for 5 months next time I get laid off. FordPRefectLL posted:someone who absolutely insisted on having admin access installed teamviewer on their work pc, set up unattended access and didn't bother to secure it in anything that resembles even the slightest attempt That reminds me, I need to change my PayPal account to a Keepass generated one.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:55
|
|
|
He probably did spell-check and cum is in his dictionary! Although if you mean reading diligently through something that will be your first impression, yeah he should have, but through 6 pages of it? I'd probably say gently caress that too.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:57
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 12, 2024 15:56 |
|
|
22 Eargesplitten posted:What's the cum switches and routers supposed to be? Juniper UCM I think. The guy just seems to have walked through a service provider Datacenter and named all the technology.
|
|
#
?
Jun 9, 2016 19:58
|
|