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Hearts of Iron 4 just came out. There is a hidden achievement. You have to get Wojtek as a commander through a complicated series of triggers.
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Splode posted:Isn't this a myth? I am pretty sure this doesn't happen.
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Jun 7, 2016 23:52
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Arquinsiel posted:Mythbusters did it, but their methodology was somewhat flawed what with them using what amounts to a lifeboat and extrapolating the results to the Titanic. Yeah I saw that, and I agree their experiment was pretty worthless. The physics of the claim don't make all that much sense though. Are there any reliable accounts of it happening?
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Jun 8, 2016 00:04
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It sounds like a solid myth. However, myths aren't necessarily untrue. Under some conditions myths may be realizable - but as far as I'm aware, there isn't any proper research into this topic, and then there's vague claims of it happening and weak theories to explain the supposed phenomenon. Personally I find it unlikely that a sinking ship could draw anyone down with it, at least if they wore life jackets, unless the ship sunk at submarine crash dive speed. Swimming while panicked is hard. Without buoyancy devices and while wearing their uniforms it's not too hard to imagine most sailors unexpectedly falling into water just naturally drowning to the waves by the time the ship had completely sunk. We originally evolved to live in trees for a reason, going back to ground level and then even down to the coastline was a fatal error I'm tellin' ya!
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Jun 8, 2016 00:46
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I think Saint Celestine had it - it's not being pulled in from suction, it's being caught in the roiled aerated water from the air escaping from the ship that makes it impossible to swim or float.
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Jun 8, 2016 00:53
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hogmartin posted:I think Saint Celestine had it - it's not being pulled in from suction, it's being caught in the roiled aerated water from the air escaping from the ship that makes it impossible to swim or float. That's what's going on during the first Vamp bossfight in MGS2
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Jun 8, 2016 01:01
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Nenonen posted:We originally evolved to live in trees for a reason, going back to ground level and then even down to the coastline was a fatal error I'm tellin' ya! Whoa never realized our thread had its very own baron.
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Jun 8, 2016 01:16
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hogmartin posted:I think Saint Celestine had it - it's not being pulled in from suction, it's being caught in the roiled aerated water from the air escaping from the ship that makes it impossible to swim or float. It's this.
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Jun 8, 2016 01:30
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hogmartin posted:I think Saint Celestine had it - it's not being pulled in from suction, it's being caught in the roiled aerated water from the air escaping from the ship that makes it impossible to swim or float. This has actually been posited as a possible explanation for the mysterious disappearances of ships in the Bermuda Triangle. There's a lot of methane hydrate in the seafloor sediments there, and if some were to break loose the sudden release of methane would cause any ships sailing over it to lose buoyancy and sink in an instant.
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Jun 8, 2016 01:34
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Deteriorata posted:This has actually been posited as a possible explanation for the mysterious disappearances of ships in the Bermuda Triangle. There's a lot of methane hydrate in the seafloor sediments there, and if some were to break loose the sudden release of methane would cause any ships sailing over it to lose buoyancy and sink in an instant. Hasn't an analysis of ship and airplane disappearances actually found that the Bermuda Triangle is statistically no different from any other random part of the ocean nearby?
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Jun 8, 2016 01:36
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Deteriorata posted:This has actually been posited as a possible explanation for the mysterious disappearances of ships in the Bermuda Triangle. There's a lot of methane hydrate in the seafloor sediments there, and if some were to break loose the sudden release of methane would cause any ships sailing over it to lose buoyancy and sink in an instant. I thought some folks worked the numbers and figured out that the amount of methane required is simply not present in the requisite densities and volumes.
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Jun 8, 2016 01:37
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chitoryu12 posted:Hasn't an analysis of ship and airplane disappearances actually found that the Bermuda Triangle is statistically no different from any other random part of the ocean nearby? FAUXTON posted:I thought some folks worked the numbers and figured out that the amount of methane required is simply not present in the requisite densities and volumes. Beats me. It's not something I spend a lot of time keeping current on, it's just something I read a while back. It's a better explanation than Atlanteans in Bolivia capturing them with submarines, anyway.
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Jun 8, 2016 01:44
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Deteriorata posted:Beats me. It's not something I spend a lot of time keeping current on, it's just something I read a while back. Out of curiosity, I pulled up the Wikipedia article on the Triangle. It says the reputation of being unusually deadly was created in the 1950s and exaggerations just kept building on a single, sensational report of some disappeared Avenger torpedo bombers (which was likely due to disorientation and running out of fuel in the open ocean). There was also sloppy research, like writing down that a boat was reported missing but forgetting to check if it ever came back.
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Jun 8, 2016 02:01
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The Avengers did get lost. There is quite a detailed description of what probably happened somewhere in my bookmarks, but essentially the leader got disoriented and everyone did what they were supposed to, and stayed with him until they all ran out of fuel. A few years later some kind of sci-fi magazine ran a story where they falsified a bunch of radio transmissions where members of Flight 19 said "the ocean looks all wrong" and other such things. The myth just took off from there.
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Jun 8, 2016 02:33
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MrMojok posted:The Avengers did get lost. There is quite a detailed description of what probably happened somewhere in my bookmarks, but essentially the leader got disoriented and everyone did what they were supposed to, and stayed with him until they all ran out of fuel. The story I remember definitely made it sound like the leader (instructor) got disoriented and everybody else stuck with him even though it sounds like some of them definitely knew what was going on and how to get back to land. To be fair though, the ocean does look all wrong. Stupid ocean. All wrong-looking.
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Jun 8, 2016 03:30
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I was looking at more of the Vintage LIFE magazine issues, and I found this hilarious, notably the last sentence:""BRITISH BRIDES posted:
Edit: From a caption: Mother of two parades before US Embassy. At a subsequent meeting an Embassy representative said everything possible was being done, left hurriedly by side door. Tomn fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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Jun 8, 2016 07:11
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Jun 8, 2016 07:21
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Tomn posted:I was looking at more of the Vintage LIFE magazine issues, and I found this hilarious, notably the last sentence: Well, to be fair it was a US problem. Not much the UK could do about US immigration. I met one of those women when I lived over in the US, actually; she would have been in her 80s I guess, had lived in the US for most of her life, sounded totally American to me but apparently to my American in-laws of the time she still had a British accent.
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Jun 8, 2016 10:47
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Nenonen posted:Afghanistan is the Bizarro-Switzerland. Instead of Afghans leaving their home country to murder everyone, everyone feels compulsed to go there to get murdered. Now I'm trying to think of which Swiss ethnicity corresponds to which Afghan one. French speakers definitely = Tajiks, but that's an easy one.
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Jun 8, 2016 15:55
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it's going to end with a dude in the mountains throwing rocks at your head whichever you pick
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Jun 8, 2016 17:00
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Tomn posted:I was looking at more of the Vintage LIFE magazine issues, and I found this hilarious, notably the last sentence: My favorite strange LIFE find was a 1944 full-page photo of some 20-year-old clerk staring contemplatively at a Japanese soldier's skull that her beau had sent her (autographed) from the beaches of New Guinea. The last sentence of the caption was along the lines of "the armed forces frown very strongly on this sort of thing".
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Jun 8, 2016 17:13
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feedmegin posted:Well, to be fair it was a US problem. Not much the UK could do about US immigration. Yeah, I was just amused by how apparently, nobody in charge at all wanted to face the women calling for their husbands and were willing to toss the hot potato as quick as they could or even literally slip out side exits.
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Jun 8, 2016 17:16
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Hargrimm posted:My favorite strange LIFE find was a 1944 full-page photo of some 20-year-old clerk staring contemplatively at a Japanese soldier's skull that her beau had sent her (autographed) from the beaches of New Guinea. The last sentence of the caption was along the lines of "the armed forces frown very strongly on this sort of thing". Standards? alright sure, gold or money? a little dubious now. Watches? they can be bought again no biggie. Weapons? they are neat trophies and will someday be in a museum. Human remains? uh...
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Jun 8, 2016 17:50
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feedmegin posted:Well, to be fair it was a US problem. Not much the UK could do about US immigration. My great aunt was a GI bride, she got married at eighteen and has lived in upstate New York ever since. She's got one of those curious Bill Bryson-esque accents that can't quite make up their mind where they are. Did mean that on my great grandmother's 100th birthday she got a card from the queen AND the president, though.
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Jun 8, 2016 20:20
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Jun 8, 2016 20:25
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"Dear John, stop sending me morbid crap. Yours, Jenny"
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Jun 8, 2016 20:26
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100 Years Ago 5 June: When you have four armies attacking all at once, a certain amount of compression is required. In an ideal world, the first day of the Brusilov Offensive, the first day at Verdun, and the first day on the Somme would all get the same amount of detail. C'est la vie. Now then. Remember the one German submarine that succeeded in laying mines before Jutland, and did it nowhere near anywhere the Grand Fleet was ever going to go? Turns out those mines are in the perfect place to catch a ship sailing from Scapa Flow to Archangel on a diplomatic mission. The submarine's missed the fleet, but it has just bagged Lord Kitchener. More fighting at Fort Vaux; the Sunny Subaltern prepares for an aborted bayonet charge; Emilio Lusso is now on the Asiago plateau and is ripping out funny stories too fast to keep up with them; and Bernard Adams nurses a raging crush on one of his young lance-corporals. 6 June: The Brusilov Offensive continues dishing out a massive kicking near Lutsk, but it's a really bad day for people we know and enemy shells. Bernard Adams emerges from a dugout to find yesterday's lance-corporal not just dead, but brutally mutilated; and the Sunny Subaltern is cut down while advancing across open ground and narrowly avoids dying of his wound. Fort Vaux is all but done for, with men literally licking the walls to avoid drinking their own piss; Louis Barthas is back up the line, but in a quiet sector; JRR Tolkien arrives for a brief stay at the Etaples Bull Ring, where he gets to do some research for Lord of the Rings; and E.S. Thompson hears that "Our fleet has smashed the main German fleet". Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Jun 8, 2016 21:08
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Goddamn your blog is amazing mate
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Jun 8, 2016 21:54
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lenoon posted:Goddamn your blog is amazing mate It's soooo good. I love how the story of Jutland has already morphed from the version Connes heard to literally the exact opposite by the time Thompson got word of it. EDIT: Lance-Corporal Allan 
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Jun 8, 2016 23:00
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Poor Adams. We've come to expect Trin's guys to watch their friends and comrades die, but someone you have a crush on?
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Jun 8, 2016 23:13
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"Nothing of importance has occured."
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Jun 8, 2016 23:17
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Oh poo poo, looks like I'm going to be in another book. Someone in England buy this for me, TIA https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edexcel-Level-History-Paper-Perception/dp/1447985451
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Jun 9, 2016 00:32
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Ensign Expendable posted:Oh poo poo, looks like I'm going to be in another book. Someone in England buy this for me, TIA https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edexcel-Level-History-Paper-Perception/dp/1447985451 loving nifty, what's in the book?
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Jun 9, 2016 00:43
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Deteriorata posted:Beats me. It's not something I spend a lot of time keeping current on, it's just something I read a while back. The Bermuda Triangle is one of the most trafficked parts of the ocean. Ships sink and planes crash at an average rate there, it's just that there are so many of them that it results in a lot of losses. Trin Tragula posted:
Should that be June?
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Jun 9, 2016 00:45
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Chamale posted:The Bermuda Triangle is one of the most trafficked parts of the ocean. Ships sink and planes crash at an average rate there, it's just that there are so many of them that it results in a lot of losses. Listen: Lord Kitchener has come unstuck in time.
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Jun 9, 2016 00:46
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Ensign Expendable posted:Oh poo poo, looks like I'm going to be in another book. Someone in England buy this for me, TIA https://www.amazon.co.uk/Edexcel-Level-History-Paper-Perception/dp/1447985451 You're in a textbook: This obviously your views are now the established mainstream! (How did you get tank blog posts into a A-level History textbook?)
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Jun 9, 2016 00:53
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Empress Theonora posted:Listen: Lord Kitchener has come unstuck in time. It's really quite simple. Admiral Jellicoe was devastated by routing his ship the wrong way, and then he went to the head and saw a butterfly, so he took a photograph of it, and then he jumped back in time and pushed the Action Stations alarm, so Hampshire never left port, and now there's a huge waterspout heading right for Scapa Flow...
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Jun 9, 2016 01:00
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nothing to seehere posted:You're in a textbook: This obviously your views are now the established mainstream! (How did you get tank blog posts into a A-level History textbook?) For some strange reason they wanted Guderian's guide on anti-tank guns.
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Jun 9, 2016 03:55
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Veritek83 posted:Sure, I don't doubt that there was a plan drawn up, but he's clearly interested in it as a means of minimizing Nazi poo poo. Posting from the past, the link I have is from the US Naval Institute http://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1998-01/most-deadly-plan
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Trin Tragula posted:100 Years Ago quote:Fifteen minutes later, the ship is sinking. 662 people were aboard. 12 survived. 655 went down with her. Did 5 come back up? 
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Jun 9, 2016 05:40
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.