Nemesis Of Moles posted:No one knows, and $380~. Expect around $400 for basic stuff based on the 1080 launch though. Pretty much always add ~$20 to the MSRP for a decent aftermarket card at launch, it was the same with the 970 with all of them being at least $349 instead of $329.
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Geemer posted:Mainly because I was too lazy and the Crimson drivers had known issues I didn't feel like dealing with. Besides, would updating really help when the software used to run without problem? How did the baking go? LiquidRain fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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future ghost posted:I always try to troubleshoot everything before sending anything in for RMA but I guess I've been lucky with warranty support so far. Sending the 290 into MSI for service took a little longer than expected the other week but ended up getting a (as far as I can tell, new) 390 for an exchange was pretty good. Runs cooler and quieter than the 290 anyways. About $200 with shipping well spent. This is just one reference point, but Galax warranty support was really good for my 980 Ti HOF. It just stopped working after two months, described my trouble shooting steps in the RMA. Within 8 hours I had an RMA number(did this at like 4am), but had to pay for my shipping to Galax. They shipped me a BNIB card with 4 days.
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Jun 9, 2016 01:44
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Pretty much always add ~$20 to the MSRP for a decent aftermarket card at launch, it was the same with the 970 with all of them being at least $349 instead of $329. Yeah for sure, it's a lot better than the negative nellys who keep saying that the FE edition is the new MRSP.
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Jun 9, 2016 01:53
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doughboy1013 posted:Dumb question, checking my crazy. Have an MSI 970 sitting in a box from the Microcenter fire sale a few weeks back, $250 before rebate. If you can return it without getting burned on restocking, you should imo. The best argument for AMD are FreeSync monitors if price is a concern.
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Jun 9, 2016 03:28
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sauer kraut posted:If you can return it without getting burned on restocking, you should imo. I agree here. Freesync has a much better selection and value in the lower end stuff, and it's a great way to add to the value of a video card.
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Jun 9, 2016 04:06
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Even if there is a potential for it only being a sidegrade in performance, the added features are worth the switch. DP 1.3 is a big one, as well as the much larger VRAM pool.
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Jun 9, 2016 04:08
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Geemer posted:gently caress it, let's go full 360 on this fucker and bake it. If it'll last me until that 480 comes out, I'll be pleased. And if I gently caress it up, I guess I'll get a learning experience about the power of the Intel HD Graphics 2500, which should at least let me do web browsing. Screws on those heatsinks can be really tiny, so a magnetic screwdriver and a light surface to work on are ideal
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Jun 9, 2016 04:33
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~Hello Darkness, my old friend~ One week of AMD. Lol. Maybe I've just had the worst luck with drivers for the last ... 15 solid years, but my opinion still stands. I can count how many times a driver has outright failed on me with a nvidia card ive owned on Also RIP 1x 7870  Come on baby, I have one more to last me two more weeks! penus penus penus fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Jun 9, 2016 05:49
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BOOTY-ADE posted:Screws on those heatsinks can be really tiny, so a magnetic screwdriver and a light surface to work on are ideal Pro tip never do fine detail work like this in a carpeted area. Had the innards of a lens shutter try to escape once. For more complex projects, a 28-compartment pill planner is a great way to store small parts. Also, video yourself disassembling it and putting the parts in the planner. Then you can figure out how it all originally went together. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Jun 9, 2016 06:21
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:~Hello Darkness, my old friend~ Not to fanboy, but the first couple google results for that 4101 error code are all talking about Nvidia cards, so just a roll of the dice really when poo poo like this happens. Also during that search found this that should help eek out a bit more with the card: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2665946 Seems that if you extend the time Windows gives the display driver to do its thing, say if for an older card near the end of its life, Windows won't kill/restart the driver prematurely. Not saying it will work, but worth a shot.
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Jun 9, 2016 06:29
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Nemesis Of Moles posted:No one knows, and $380~. Expect around $400 for basic stuff based on the 1080 launch though. Does Nvidia give reference prices only in dollars or do they also have them in €? I'd like to know how much we're being gouged this time.
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Reference price on 1080s is 789 euros IIRC.
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Truga posted:Reference price on 1080s is 789 euros IIRC. And then probably a ~20% VAT on top of that? Ouch. Also holy lol, 789.99 euro + 20% VAT = 947.98 euro, 947.98 euro = $1080 USD.
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Jun 9, 2016 07:51
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Isn't VAT required to be included in the EU or does that not apply for MSRPs?
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Fragrag posted:Isn't VAT required to be included in the EU or does that not apply for MSRPs? Yeah VAT is included in MSRPs too. I don't know about the rest of euroland but here in the UK the 1080FE is going for £619 for the lesser brands, and slightly higher for Asus/Gigabyte/etc. Which works out at ~900USD, or 750 ignoring tax. So we're paying a 50 dollar premium (plus tax we can't avoid by buying out of state etc).
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The mark-up is even more egregious in Australia. 1200AUD = 900~ USD. Given 10% GST, ~820USD. So there is basically a 120USD mark-up.
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Oh I wasn't complaining, just being factual. I don't think a $50 markup to cover shipping to Europe and providing after-sale support in a bunch more languages is actually that bad.
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Jun 9, 2016 08:35
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Back with the 980 Ti MSI Gaming 6G, Gigabyte G1, MSI Lightning, Zotac Amp Extreme etc they only got a few fps over reference at 4K so it's not surprising the new MSI Gaming 8G only gets 1 fps over FE at 4K. Seems to be some bottleneck at those ultra high resolutions that simply increasing the core / mem frequency doesn't help with.
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Ak Gara posted:Back with the 980 Ti MSI Gaming 6G, Gigabyte G1, MSI Lightning, Zotac Amp Extreme etc they only got a few fps over reference at 4K so it's not surprising the new MSI Gaming 8G only gets 1 fps over FE at 4K. Seems to be some bottleneck at those ultra high resolutions that simply increasing the core / mem frequency doesn't help with. But the core/memory was not higher than you can get on the reference PCB, it's looking like the limiting factor is the chip itself, not the power delivery, if so you might as well buy one of the cheaper cards with a reference PCB and a decent cooler slapped on.
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Jun 9, 2016 09:41
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:And then probably a ~20% VAT on top of that? Ouch. 764-799€ on Amazon Italy. It ends up going for about 900$. Luckily, VAT was already included! (ours is 22%)
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It seems that if you want clocks over ~2100, then GP104 needs a custom BIOS first, to get past voltage limits, then some decent cooling to deal with heat. Kingpin teasing 2835 core and 12404 memory using LN2. He's probably got an uber binned chip there too. Looks like he's only putting 1v into it.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:And then probably a ~20% VAT on top of that? Ouch. No, all prices include tax in EU. e;fb
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Just pick a 1080 with 1300 MHz GDDR5X and around 1.9 GHz boost, never bother with overclocking software. That Inno3d iChill X4 is so tempting 
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Ak Gara posted:Back with the 980 Ti MSI Gaming 6G, Gigabyte G1, MSI Lightning, Zotac Amp Extreme etc they only got a few fps over reference at 4K so it's not surprising the new MSI Gaming 8G only gets 1 fps over FE at 4K. Seems to be some bottleneck at those ultra high resolutions that simply increasing the core / mem frequency doesn't help with. It's not just high resolutions, it's high resolutions with everything turned to 11. It's entirely possible the spread is a bit wider once you start dropping AA a bit to hunt for the magic 60 fps mark or whatever you want.
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Froist posted:Oh I wasn't complaining, just being factual. I don't think a $50 markup to cover shipping to Europe and providing after-sale support in a bunch more languages is actually that bad. Well, a) I doubt they're shipping them from China to the US and then to Europe. It's more like China to both the US and Europe, so same shipping cost more or less. and b) what foreign language after-sales support are they providing me?    (not really a big deal, we're long used to markups for everything electronic over here)
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feedmegin posted:Well, All true, just trying to downplay "rip off Britain" that people (not you) trot out all the time. At the end of the day the $50 premium we pay over here works out at a 7% increase over the US price - no big deal on a "luxury" graphics card. I'll be happy if the actual price of the 1070FE tomorrow is £399, which conveniently works on the same maths ($450 MSRP = £311, + 7% "Europe tax" = £333, +20% VAT = £399). Anything above that will feel like unnecessary scalping.
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Looks like guru3d put the 1070 review up a bit early then pulled them. http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/msi-geforce-gtx-1070-gaming-x-review-offline.html
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sauer kraut posted:Just pick a 1080 with 1300 MHz GDDR5X and around 1.9 GHz boost, never bother with overclocking software. Does inno3d still have a really quiet cooler? I remember theirs being a standout in the computerbase.de roundup of 970s or 980s.
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The 1080 inno3d cooler is in that computerbase.de gigabyte g1 review I posted earlier.
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xthetenth posted:Does inno3d still have a really quiet cooler? I remember theirs being a standout in the computerbase.de roundup of 970s or 980s. Yeah the X3 beat the Strix on that website, being 50 bucks cheaper too. Not sure about the X4's little side fan lol.
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I'm sorry if the part picking thread is a better place to ask this question: I'm a developer looking to pick up a 1080. I'm totally fine waiting a few more weeks, as I hear about MSI vs. ASUS vs. EVGA cards. I'm having trouble actually understanding one vs. the other. I'm somewhat flexible on price and waiting up to a month for a card, I'm just completely lost when it comes to picking which 1080 is the 'right one' to look for. Historically I don't typically overclock my cards, but I may be interested at some point in the future. I've tried google but the comparisons I see go a bit over my head.
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Which NVIDIA-shipping companies will do warranty service in Canada for cards bought in the US? All? None?
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sauer kraut posted:Yeah the X3 beat the Strix on that website, being 50 bucks cheaper too. Not sure about the X4's little side fan lol. IIRC the Inno3D has a max RPM of 1500 to the ASUS 3k+.
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As far as the side fan goes on the inno3d card, if it's the same as my nephews 970 (*deep breath* Nvidia geforce 970 gtx inno3d ichill airboss x4 ultra 4gb DHS) then that little fan can be a loud bugger at speed and will be the first fan you hear spooling up but it's quiet enough idle. If your after a very quiet card I probably wouldn't advise it. Though Iirc you can take apart the cooler and fit a resistor or similar to slow fan speed. Pretty sure someone did thorough testing and found even at low speeds the small amount of airflow was enough. On the plus side it resembles an aircraft carrier, which is badass as hell. It's literally 6 times the size of the 5570 it replaced in my nephews rig. Captain Hair fucked around with this message at 15:03 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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MSI has cards up on Amazon for pre-order. 1080 FE edit: and they're gone bloops fucked around with this message at 15:13 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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holocaust bloopers posted:1080 FE See this is related to my previous question. I have no idea how to realistically compare the FE to the other 1080s which may be coming out soon. Any specific one I should keep my eye out for? Any good site that will simply compare the upcoming offerings?
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What I've seen people say is that since extra power phases and connectors don't actually make a difference re: overclocking the card, you should just look for a 1080 that a) has a good cooler, and/or b) looks good.
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Atoramos posted:See this is related to my previous question. I have no idea how to realistically compare the FE to the other 1080s which may be coming out soon. Any specific one I should keep my eye out for? Any good site that will simply compare the upcoming offerings? Most third party 1080s at FE prices and above have faster base clocks (resulting in 2-10fps gain depending on the game), cooler running, and most require more power cables. Until custom BIOS, all have the same power throttling as the FE, regardless of extra power connectors or phases. The cheaper actual RRP non-FE 1080's have lovely plastic shroud blowers. Not sure if that helped. Quite a few videos and reviews have been linked in the past few pages.
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