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Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Are you worried about someone using it to try and hack your network, or are you worried about someone coming along and hooking it up to a car battery?

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surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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specialist


spankmeister posted:

Switch> enable
Switch# conf t
Switch(config)# int ge 0/0
Switch(config-if)# shut
Switch(config-if)# exit
Switch(config)# copy run start


it's been a while since i've actually touched a cisco switch so i might have made a mistake but eh

heh we're currently running on a clusterfuck of unmanaged switches plugged one into the other, so that's not possible, but i'll add it on the top of the list of why we should upgrade our poo poo


Jabor posted:

Are you worried about someone using it to try and hack your network, or are you worried about someone coming along and hooking it up to a car battery?

bit of both? there's just no reason to leave that kind of stuff accessible except trying to save :10bux:

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

avatar
specialist


another quickie for this morning, i need to install a linux to run some internal stuff (namely self-hosted jira & git) and i was wondering what the better distro choices were from an itsec point of view

i know ubuntu gets knocked a lot since it's downstream from updates, but since this isn't going to be an outward facing machine, does it really change anything?

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






surebet posted:

heh we're currently running on a clusterfuck of unmanaged switches plugged one into the other, so that's not possible, but i'll add it on the top of the list of why we should upgrade our poo poo

you don't happen to work for a bangladeshi bank do you?

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






surebet posted:

another quickie for this morning, i need to install a linux to run some internal stuff (namely self-hosted jira & git) and i was wondering what the better distro choices were from an itsec point of view

i know ubuntu gets knocked a lot since it's downstream from updates, but since this isn't going to be an outward facing machine, does it really change anything?

Use CentOS 7.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010


a cry for help

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

surebet posted:

heh we're currently running on a clusterfuck of unmanaged switches plugged one into the other, so that's not possible, but i'll add it on the top of the list of why we should upgrade our poo poo

:shepicide:

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


unpatch the port when you aren't using it. having something still electrically connected to the switch and terminating outside the building would make me a bit nervous. also put it in a lockable cabinet.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

now let's see how long they last in this underwater microwave

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

Shaggar posted:

LaGuardia is a litterall dump. like literrally litterall. theres trash everywhere and it stinks.

my last laguardia experience was being trapped in a terminal with no bar with a malfunctioning fire alarm after hard partying the previous night/morning

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug

spankmeister posted:

Use CentOS 7.
this. most supported, comes otb with selinux enabled and supported on all base rpms, fastest to get patches, just works.

the effort RH put into selinux configs for all rpms puts it far ahead of any other distro atm unless you really like janitoring OSes more than you have to

Bhodi fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jun 9, 2016

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Bhodi posted:

this. most supported, comes otb with selinux enabled and supported on all base rpms, fastest to get patches, just works.

the effort RH put into selinux configs for all rpms puts it far ahead of any other distro atm unless you really like janitoring OSes more than you have to

:agreed:

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
centos' ancient packages are too much of a hassle. is there a reason to not just use fedora server instead?

Rooney McNibnug
Sep 2, 2008

"Life always hopes. When a definite object cannot be outlined, the indomitable spirit of hope still impels the living mass to move toward something--something that shall somehow be better."
We got some Shade/Troldesh variant ransomeware here which locked up ~10% of our fileserver here.

Can't wait to find out who executed it and through what venue.

fins
May 31, 2011

Floss Finder
https://www.secureworks.com/blog/malware-lingers-with-bits


Intersting use of BITS

quote:

The poisoned BITS tasks, which created installation and clean-up scripts after their payloads were downloaded, were self-contained in the BITS job database, with no files or registry modifications to detect on the host.

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

apseudonym posted:

Sandboxes are the long term solution, but cludging it onto to OSes that werent designed with sandboxing in mind dont go great and most sandbox products are poo poo and AV levels of lies.

windows does have sorta-sandboxing with integrity levels and even better isolation with the app model but nobody uses it right so ohwell

ultramiraculous
Nov 12, 2003

"No..."
Grimey Drawer

graph posted:

my last laguardia experience was being trapped in a terminal with no bar with a malfunctioning fire alarm after hard partying the previous night/morning

so i'm guessing you've got some great suggestions on good corners to curl up and die in in LGA?

graph
Nov 22, 2006

aaag peanuts

ultramiraculous posted:

so i'm guessing you've got some great suggestions on good corners to curl up and die in in LGA?

there was nowhere to go. i had only sunglasses and wadded up paper towel earplugs from the restroom

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

centos' ancient packages are too much of a hassle. is there a reason to not just use fedora server instead?

The gently caress? What packages are you needing specifically that a new version would work better than a older version + security updates?

duTrieux.
Oct 9, 2003

spankmeister posted:

you don't happen to work for a bangladeshi bank do you?

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



ratbert90 posted:

The gently caress? What packages are you needing specifically that a new version would work better than a older version + security updates?

the version of git that comes with centos is so old it that some golang dependancy downloads break because it can't handle redirects properly

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



you should still use centos though

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

jre posted:

the version of git that comes with centos is so old it that some golang dependancy downloads break because it can't handle redirects properly
Fair enough, although specifically for git you could just grab that single RPM from rpmforge and then disable the repository.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

centos' ancient packages are too much of a hassle. is there a reason to not just use fedora server instead?

yeah it's supported for many years whereas with fedora you have to upgrade the os every year or two.

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

jre posted:

you should still use centos though

if it prevents you from using golandg, all the better

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
What's the best alternative to PHP7? As far as I can tell, for authentication/sql support I can't find much.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






On centos and redhat you can install a newer version of git and a lot of other things like newer python or apache for example with the software collections

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004

ratbert90 posted:

What's the best alternative to PHP7? As far as I can tell, for authentication/sql support I can't find much.

not using php at all

Doug
Feb 27, 2006

This station is
non-operational.

ratbert90 posted:

What's the best alternative to PHP7? As far as I can tell, for authentication/sql support I can't find much.

flask?

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

ratbert90 posted:

What's the best alternative to PHP7? As far as I can tell, for authentication/sql support I can't find much.

flask

Winkle-Daddy
Mar 10, 2007

fritz posted:

if it prevents you from using golandg, all the better

hmm, this opinion is wrong.


This is an example of a "correct opinion"

fins
May 31, 2011

Floss Finder
http://www.ucalgary.ca/utoday/issue/2016-06-08/university-calgary-makes-significant-progress-address-systems-issues

UC got ransomwared

quote:

As has been communicated over the past 10 days, the University of Calgary experienced a cyberattack that impacted its systems. This attack is part of a disturbing global trend of highly sophisticated and malicious malware attacks against organizations including NASA, law enforcement agencies and large health-care institutions. UCalgary IT teams have been working around the clock to address systems issues caused by the attack, and regular updates have been provided to the campus community.

but it's ok because it also happens to NASA.

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

fritz posted:

if it prevents you from using golandg, all the better

go is ok even tho the standard lib fokls are really rigid about what they put in meaning a lot of basic stuff doesn't exist because its "easy to implement yourself!"

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

pr0zac posted:

go is ok even tho the standard lib fokls are really rigid about what they put in meaning a lot of basic stuff doesn't exist because its "easy to implement yourself!"

also i guess how super annoying implementing things modularly is

pr0zac
Jan 18, 2004

~*lukecagefan69*~


Pillbug

pr0zac posted:

also i guess how super annoying implementing things modularly is

and the lack of generics and large amount of unnecessary boilerplate too i guess

and the annoyances of dependency management

ok yeah golang is bad

jre
Sep 2, 2011

To the cloud ?



pr0zac posted:

go is ok even tho the standard lib fokls are really rigid about what they put in meaning a lot of basic stuff doesn't exist because its "easy to implement yourself!"

the dependancy management :smithicide:

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






nodejs comes to the rescue with handy modules like left-pad

Winkle-Daddy
Mar 10, 2007

jre posted:

the dependancy management :smithicide:

this is the only legit complaint brought up, imo. everything else comes down to "modern object oriented programming has broken your brain"

I started using Go to replace lovely bash scripts and to write simple services to help facilitate automation and my whole team has jumped on board because it's so easy to pick up. Since these are mostly tools for automation that are highly specific to our lab environment the dependency management doesn't really become an issue for us.

e: while vendoring isn't perfect it closes some of the gap

vOv
Feb 8, 2014

I've never used go in seriousness, what's wrong with its dependency management

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Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender
https://twitter.com/redteamwrangler/status/741011979809132544

so that's three kickstarters i've ruined

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