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trapped mouse
May 25, 2008

by Azathoth

Pick posted:

When I phonebanked for Hillary, it was 100% women volunteering.

Weirdly enough, when I phonebanked for her it was only older women and younger men (like me). I think there was only one woman my age there (because her mother brought her), and none of the men seemed like they were past 35.

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Peztopiary
Mar 16, 2009

by exmarx
It's weird to me how many of Trump's supporters desire to feel safe. I mean, that's not how the world works. We're the United States of America, we're the most powerful country that exists. Of course groups are going to take shots at us. If you want a safe existence move somewhere else.

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx

Peztopiary posted:

It's weird to me how many of Trump's supporters desire to feel safe. I mean, that's not how the world works. We're the United States of America, we're the most powerful country that exists. Of course groups are going to take shots at us. If you want a safe existence move somewhere else.

Like the socialist hell hole of Canada.

Notable Dom X
Apr 3, 2011

by exmarx
Buglord
Lol if you're not mentally preparing for your inevitable death every waking moment like the samurai of old. No such thing as true safety, only RODHAM

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
I got your rod ham right here

marchantia
Nov 5, 2009

WHAT IS THIS
:abuela: Also that above thing is true - I mentioned once in social media that I was for Clinton and have had Bernie people on my dick ever since about why I hate all that is good in the world and support that evil hag probably cuz I'm a woman right

:coolspot:

Afraid of Audio
Oct 12, 2012

by exmarx
:abuela:

Islam is the Lite Rock FM
Jul 27, 2007

by exmarx
I support the :abuela:

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy
A female president takes over 227 years to get ready.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

marchantia posted:

:abuela: Also that above thing is true - I mentioned once in social media that I was for Clinton and have had Bernie people on my dick ever since about why I hate all that is good in the world and support that evil hag probably cuz I'm a woman right

:coolspot:

Don't check lady gagas Facebook no matter what

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Sign me up

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx
Hell yeah :abuela:

smg77
Apr 27, 2007
:abuela: rules

Yoshifan823
Feb 19, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I wanna get in on this :abuela: action!

e_angst
Sep 20, 2001

by exmarx

:abuela: is even better when you see the keyword.

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

by exmarx
African Dictator Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9W0F2mz1jc

Slate Action
Feb 13, 2012

by exmarx
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/740973710593654784

Notable Dom X
Apr 3, 2011

by exmarx
Buglord
/uninstall, kiddo - Hillary Rodham grilltown

Notable Dom X has issued a correction as of 19:35 on Jun 9, 2016

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?



:swoon: :abuela:

Blizz Pizz Love Us
Aug 18, 2015

by exmarx
Mi :abuela: es igual que mi abuela.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
During the first debate she just walks on stage, looks trump in the eye and says "kill yourself" then walks off

trapped mouse
May 25, 2008

by Azathoth

Holy goddamn. :abuela:

e_angst
Sep 20, 2001

by exmarx

trapped mouse posted:

Holy goddamn. :abuela:

Dude, I said it earlier in this very thread...

e_angst posted:

I'm also fairly confident in Hillary's ability to unleash the hounds of hell on Trump. The Clinton opposition research team is the best in the game. We're going to find out so many new terrible things about Trump, he may have to leave the country when the election is over.

The closer we get to election day, the higher the likelihood that Trump will be crying himself to sleep each night. By October it's gonna look like he has a bad case of pinkeye.

:abuela:

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

yw

Mountaineer
Aug 29, 2008

Imagine a rod breaking on a robot face - forever
Can't wait to see Obama out there campaigning for Hillary.

:abuela::hf::obama:

UV_Catastrophe
Dec 29, 2008

Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are,

"It might have been."
Pillbug
:abuela::toxx::abuela:

UV_Catastrophe
Dec 29, 2008

Of all the words of mice and men, the saddest are,

"It might have been."
Pillbug
The bern has been extinguished...

I am ready to do the bidding of Mi Abuela.

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008


Today some D&D goon finally fulfilled their destiny.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

e_angst posted:


The closer we get to election day, the higher the likelihood that Trump will be crying himself to sleep each night. By October it's gonna look like he has a bad case of pinkeye.

:abuela:

My only fear is that Donald melts down before the RNC and they manage to get rid of him. Please wait until after Cleveland's golden coronation to melt down like Chernobyl, Short Fingered Vulgarian.

The Puppet Master
Apr 9, 2005

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard.



I suppose it is Hilldawg or ban :toxx: and such

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Gyges posted:

My only fear is that Donald melts down before the RNC and they manage to get rid of him. Please wait until after Cleveland's golden coronation to melt down like Chernobyl, Short Fingered Vulgarian.

Hopefully the meltdown will begin during Cleveland, with an ostentatious shitshow where scheduled speakers go off-script and turn on Trump mid-speech, a floor fight over the platform, brawls between protestors and counter-protestors of multiple factions outside and Trump so hopped up on ego during his big speech that he sets a new record for insane poo poo coming out of his mouth. Garnish with half the officeholding Republicans and other major figures going into hiding for the whole week so they don't have to comment on it.

But people tend not to talk about the Democratic convention, and that should be good too if just for a change of pace from the All-Trump-All-The-Time show we've got right now. It might be refreshing to actually hear what the Democrats have in store for their next four years of controlling the White House and see where the platform ends up after all this push and pull between Hillary and Bernie. If they can really heal the rift between the establishment and the progressive wing then the convention will be the place to show it off, hopefully in a way that reincorporates the Sanders contingent and also commits Clinton to major positive planks people will want to vote for instead of only voting against Trump.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
My guess is Hillary drops the $12 compromise stand on minimum wage entirely, pledges to crack down on Wall Street(with a Bernie chosen person personally in charge of swinging the truncheon), emphasizing the awesomeness of diplomacy via the Iran Deal to assuage worries over the Iraq vote, goes with Bernie's Social Security plan, goes with the public option plan and drug negotiation for the ACA reform, then splits the difference on their college affordability plans.

Also if we're going with dream scenarios tells Netanyahu to go gently caress himself in Prime Time, declares a war on crumbling infrastructure, promises a pardon for all nonviolent marijuana offenders, and coopts Newt's moonbase dreams.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Gyges posted:

My guess is Hillary drops the $12 compromise stand on minimum wage entirely,

Important to note that she doesn't believe in a universal $12 minimum wage. Rather, she believes that the minimum wage should be regionally weighted, and that minimum should be $12.

Fox Ironic
Jul 19, 2012

by exmarx

computer parts posted:

Important to note that she doesn't believe in a universal $12 minimum wage. Rather, she believes that the minimum wage should be regionally weighted, and that minimum should be $12.

Yeah, pretty standard compromise in place which was put in place by my state (Oregon), to be fully implemented by 2020 : $12.50 in rural areas, $13.50 in transitional areas and smaller cities, $14.75 in major cities (Portland, and possibly Eugene-Springfield if current growth estimates hold).

It's an experiment to influenc the growth of smaller cities and keep cities like Portland from gentrifying too hard.

Edit: It's actually by 2022

Fox Ironic has issued a correction as of 02:22 on Jun 10, 2016

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

computer parts posted:

Important to note that she doesn't believe in a universal $12 minimum wage. Rather, she believes that the minimum wage should be regionally weighted, and that minimum should be $12.

Yeah, but that's what she's being attacked on by the Sanders wing. Universal $15 as a policy plank seems like the way to appease them, then break their hearts by compromising back to tiered increases. What are they going to do, vote against her in 2018? Sort of like how Obama railed against Health Care mandates and then that became a central part of the ACA.

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP

Gyges posted:

Yeah, but that's what she's being attacked on by the Sanders wing. Universal $15 as a policy plank seems like the way to appease them, then break their hearts by compromising back to tiered increases. What are they going to do, vote against her in 2018? Sort of like how Obama railed against Health Care mandates and then that became a central part of the ACA.

80% of "the Sanders wing" is perfectly fine with her policies. Of the remaining, the percentage that aren't going to vote for her but would if she bumped up the minimum wage by $3 is probably vanishingly small.

Fox Ironic posted:

Yeah, pretty standard compromise in place which was put in place by my state (Oregon), to be fully implemented by 2020 : $12.50 in rural areas, $13.50 in transitional areas and smaller cities, $14.75 in major cities (Portland, and possibly Eugene-Springfield if current growth estimates hold).

It's an experiment to influenc the growth of smaller cities and keep cities like Portland from gentrifying too hard.

Edit: It's actually by 2022

The nice thing is that it's indexed to inflation afterwards, and the rate of increase is actually greater than inflation too.

Wanamingo
Feb 22, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Gyges posted:

Sort of like how Obama railed against Health Care mandates and then that became a central part of the ACA.

Wasn't that mostly because Obama was a Pollyanna who thought he could get the republicans to work with him if he just tried hard enough?

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

computer parts posted:

80% of "the Sanders wing" is perfectly fine with her policies. Of the remaining, the percentage that aren't going to vote for her but would if she bumped up the minimum wage by $3 is probably vanishingly small.

I don't disagree, but the point of the concession isn't so much the substance but the spectacle. Caving on the tiered minimum wage gives a stronger image of Bernie getting things. It's also something that can easily be modified down the road due to Congress. She's going to be looking for things that give the most visible message of inclusion while impacting her preferred policies the least.

Wanamingo posted:

Wasn't that mostly because Obama was a Pollyanna who thought he could get the republicans to work with him if he just tried hard enough?

I don't know that it was as much believing that Republicans would come along on the magic carpet ride as it was a concession to get the Insurance Companies not to fight it tooth and nail. Like the concession that drug negotiating was off the table.

Dickensian Aspect
Mar 18, 2009
The ACA makes a lot more sense with a mandate - with an expectation that healthy people buy in - than it would without, assuming the rest of the structure is basically the same. Hence the desperate and successful legal attempt to defend the mandate and therefore the ACA itself.

There was a sense - I don't know if this ever got confirmed - during the primary in 08 that Obama was trying to land on Clinton's left on healthcare and miscalculated, which is how he got in the bizarre position of advocating a plan very similar to hers but clearly less workable. That got straightened out once Obama and Clinton no longer had to stress the differences between them.

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tenderjerk
Nov 6, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 367 days!
I had $27 for the Birken Sandals campaign but just but one :toxx: to give for my abuela.

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