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howe_sam posted:Huh, this was a gossipy tidbit tucked away at the end I'm having trouble parsing that. The MTV group of ex-Grantlanders were fed up with Simmons or with ESPN? I know Holly Anderson has been more than happy to burn the latter bridge.
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Jun 8, 2016 18:04
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Henchman of Santa posted:I'm having trouble parsing that. The MTV group of ex-Grantlanders were fed up with Simmons or with ESPN? I know Holly Anderson has been more than happy to burn the latter bridge. I read it as they were upset with Simmons and the group of editors/writers that all quit the same day since that essentially was the death knell for Grantland. It sounds like they weren't kept in the loop about any future ventures.
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Jun 8, 2016 18:17
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Yeah I read it as there's hard feelings for being left behind/blindsided by the exodus
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Jun 8, 2016 18:29
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In "we're not mad, honestly we are all just laughing about this" news, ESPN has quietly launched another attempt at a Longform Story Homepage, his time called Doubletruck. No presumptive editorial staff making claims about their goals, no unifying themes or interconnected nature, and all that we have on the home-page is a Picture-with-Text "would you like to know more" style last seen at The Ringer. Its an off-shoot that largely reprints ESPN: the Mag features. All-in-all, it's just another signal that ESPN doesn't really know what it wanted out of Grantland, just that they wanted to make sure they didn't NOT have whatever the hell Grantland was supposed to be.
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Jun 8, 2016 18:48
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I dunno, I think the purpose of Grantland was pretty clear: give Simmons what he wanted
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Jun 8, 2016 18:51
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morestuff posted:I dunno, I think the purpose of Grantland was pretty clear: give Simmons what he wanted Yep. Simmons passed the point of personal fame where he could and did say to ESPN on his next contract negotiation, "I don't want to be a writer anymore, but if you give me the funding to run my own prestige site plus $5 million a year then I'll half-rear end one column a week for you."
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Jun 8, 2016 19:20
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quote:"One of the ironies of my life is that I was definitely a chauvinist with men's and women's sports before. I'd always make WNBA jokes and stuff like that. And now I'm like a feminist, and it's all because of her," he says, as his ponytailed daughter waves at him between plays. "In L.A., they have all these academy teams for boys, and the girls are treated like second-class citizens. The fields we have are worse than the boys', too. It all just drives me f—ing crazy." Oh how big of you, Bill
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Jun 8, 2016 19:24
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God willing this revelation will lead to Bill Simmons bringing his signature brand of basketball humor and knowledge to the exciting world of the WNBA!
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Jun 8, 2016 19:28
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Bill tell me about how the Lynx are like Revenge of the Nerds II
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Jun 8, 2016 19:36
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Simmons instagrammed an apology
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Jun 8, 2016 20:27
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ElwoodCuse posted:Oh how big of you, Bill Welcome to the struggle, Comrade Simmons. All power to the correct faction.
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Jun 8, 2016 20:40
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FMguru posted:Truly, the social justice battle that will define our generation - the way that the daughters of multi-millionaires often have to play soccer on fields that a notch or two less well maintained that the fields that the sons of multi-millionaires play on. Look I get you all loving hate him, but this seems relatively harmless and sort of honest? He has a daughter now. He maybe sees the world a bit differently.
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Jun 8, 2016 22:01
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Eh, mocking the wnba was as common as ewing theory discussions in his columns for about 10 years, and not a one off thing. It is completely understandable that people will give him crap for going back on a consistent aspect of his whole shtick because of that.
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Jun 8, 2016 22:37
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It's really lovely to not care about an oppressed group until it affects you personally
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Jun 8, 2016 22:50
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It's definitely better to just continue not caring
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Jun 8, 2016 22:51
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Can I be in support of equality and still think the WNBA sucks?
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Jun 8, 2016 22:53
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Henchman of Santa posted:It's definitely better to just continue not caring You don't get to pat yourself on the back for doing what you should already have been doing
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Jun 8, 2016 23:04
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The WNBA sucks and no one here watches it.
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Jun 8, 2016 23:11
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ElwoodCuse posted:It's really lovely to not care about an oppressed group until it affects you personally It's extremely lovely to tell someone they're a regressive dumb rear end because they love their daughter. Just one mans opinion.
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Jun 9, 2016 01:47
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Work Friend Keven posted:It's extremely lovely to tell someone they're a regressive dumb rear end because they love their daughter. Just one mans opinion. That isn't what he is doing?
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Jun 9, 2016 01:53
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Why do you guys let Bill Simmons bother you this much
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Jun 9, 2016 02:09
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Henchman of Santa posted:HOT MUHAMMAD ALI TAKE quote:self-proclaimed minister of peace and champion of black pride, was ruthless and cruel to many of his black opponents. I'm trying to be a sympathetic reader here and figure out what context is missing that could be reintroduced to make this anecdote anything other than a guy being extremely cool.
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Jun 9, 2016 02:59
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Yeah I didn't even know that and now that I do Ali owned even more.
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Jun 9, 2016 03:13
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Tokyo Sex Whale posted:I'm trying to be a sympathetic reader here and figure out what context is missing that could be reintroduced to make this anecdote anything other than a guy being extremely cool. Islam is a religion of peace
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Jun 9, 2016 04:24
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ElwoodCuse posted:It's really lovely to not care about an oppressed group until it affects you personally You're right but usually people don't. So at least he's acknowledging it...I guess.
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Jun 9, 2016 06:50
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Sometimes people need to have first-person experience with something before they start to think and change their opinions about it. This is not a shocker.
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Jun 9, 2016 06:55
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I was just making fun of him for thinking that making fun of the WNBA was wrong and has anything to do with his daughter's soccer field
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Jun 9, 2016 14:12
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Thinking the WNBA is lovely and thinking that women should have equal fields for sports are not mutually exclusive.
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Jun 9, 2016 15:26
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The words of the quote are extremely dumb, but doing a lovely thing for a long time and then realizing you were doing a lovely thing and changing your mind to not do the lovely thing anymore isn't bad, it's actually good. Even for personally selfish reasons, being a better person is good.
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Jun 9, 2016 17:37
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Jun 9, 2016 21:59
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Badfinger posted:The words of the quote are extremely dumb, but doing a lovely thing for a long time and then realizing you were doing a lovely thing and changing your mind to not do the lovely thing anymore isn't bad, it's actually good. Even for personally selfish reasons, being a better person is good. listen either you come out of the womb fully woke and acknowledging your being born privilege or you're on the wrong side of history
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Jun 9, 2016 22:12
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I miss grantlands layout.
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Jun 9, 2016 23:13
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soggybagel posted:I miss grantlands layout. Seriously, who the hell looked at this and was like "Yeah that's good, roll with that!"  
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Jun 9, 2016 23:20
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Inspector_666 posted:Seriously, who the hell looked at this and was like "Yeah that's good, roll with that!" People who thought tat they should let ticket master write an article about why secondary markets are bad.
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Jun 9, 2016 23:22
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Inspector_666 posted:Seriously, who the hell looked at this and was like "Yeah that's good, roll with that!" That looks like a very nice, minimalistic layout that is easy to read.
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Jun 9, 2016 23:37
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Kibner posted:That looks like a very nice, minimalistic layout that is easy to read. The header takes up the entire page and then the actual content takes up 1/3 of the horizontal real estate when you try to read it.
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Jun 9, 2016 23:47
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Inspector_666 posted:The header takes up the entire page and then the actual content takes up 1/3 of the horizontal real estate when you try to read it. The header is only that big on the landing page and if you stretch out the content to the full width of the screen, it becomes unreadable. The content will only stretch to so many pixels/characters/other-length-unit wide. There is a reason why books with text people are expected to read only get so wide before they split into multiple columns (which isn't very feasible in the scrollable internet world).
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Jun 9, 2016 23:55
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Kibner posted:The header is only that big on the landing page and if you stretch out the content to the full width of the screen, it becomes unreadable. The content will only stretch to so many pixels/characters/other-length-unit wide. There is a reason why books with text people are expected to read only get so wide before they split into multiple columns (which isn't very feasible in the scrollable internet world). I don't expect or want the content to go edge-to-edge, but it just seems like very strange choices for proportions. EDIT: Or maybe I'm crazy because I guess Medium actually uses the same exact layout horizontally but seems wider? Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Inspector_666 posted:I don't expect or want the content to go edge-to-edge, but it just seems like very strange choices for proportions. They can set a max width. You can inspect the css to see what it is and compare it to what Medium uses. Once you go below a certain browser width, it should switch to a more mobile friendly layout.
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