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Hbomberguy posted:Here's a couple. This is what a oval office is. Some old sounding man whining about youtube videos using a weird cartoon avatar. What a oval office.
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On a whim I'm rewatching old Phelous/Allison/Brad videos and I can't believe I missed all the To Boldly Flee jokes in the Birdemic 2 review. They're super obvious!
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Jun 10, 2016 03:08
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Forgive me if this was already posted, but I recently put up my Top 10 Wildest Moments in the Quantum Leap Novels! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufoseag-wRA
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Jun 10, 2016 05:51
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CelticPredator posted:This is what a oval office is. Some old sounding man whining about youtube videos using a weird cartoon avatar. The fact that he used Sterling Archer as an avatar before I'm guessing someone at FX probably asked him to stop using it to unironically peddle the same hypermasculine bullshit that Archer itself as a show routinely mocks tells me everything I need to know about the guy. That, and the fact that he replaced it with an "original" avatar so overly manly it makes Archer look like Ray and Cyril's lovechild via Dr. Krieger. Like, I'll give the guy points for production value, but Jesus, there's missing the point and then there's following the orbit of Haley's Comet away from the point 
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Jun 10, 2016 07:10
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nine-gear crow posted:The fact that he used Sterling Archer as an avatar before I'm guessing someone at FX probably asked him to stop using it to unironically peddle the same hypermasculine bullshit that Archer itself as a show routinely mocks tells me everything I need to know about the guy. That, and the fact that he replaced it with an "original" avatar so overly manly it makes Archer look like Ray and Cyril's lovechild via Dr. Krieger. Oh my god what a hack piece of poo poo.
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Jun 10, 2016 08:48
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Arcsquad12 posted:Moviebob tries out a new review format for Warcraft. I don't know if I like the implication that it's the fans' fault the movie sucks. Then again I haven't seen it and I will never see it so I can't say. As far as Warcraft: Orcs & Humans not being a compelling story, a good director and writer can make any story compelling. The lore isn't the problem. The lack of character is. I assume, because again, I haven't seen it.
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Jun 10, 2016 09:06
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nine-gear crow posted:The fact that he used Sterling Archer as an avatar before I'm guessing someone at FX probably asked him to stop using it to unironically peddle the same hypermasculine bullshit that Archer itself as a show routinely mocks tells me everything I need to know about the guy. That, and the fact that he replaced it with an "original" avatar so overly manly it makes Archer look like Ray and Cyril's lovechild via Dr. Krieger. I listened to like a minute of his video and talk about a dude with zero charisma.
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Jun 10, 2016 09:19
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MrSlam posted:I don't know if I like the implication that it's the fans' fault the movie sucks. Then again I haven't seen it and I will never see it so I can't say. The moment I saw Thrall was going to be front and center as a main character I knew the odds of that movie being good just tanked. For those that don't know, Thrall in World of Warcraft has become one of the designers pet Mary Sue to the detriment of any other character around them. Including the players. Anytime something big turns up, it's Thrall going to deal with it instead of any number of other more relevant characters because   .
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Jun 10, 2016 09:21
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The moment I saw Thrall was going to be front and center as a main character I knew the odds of that movie being good just tanked. Its good to see that Arenanet thought this was a good character to crib for Guild Wars 2 All hail Treesus!
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Jun 10, 2016 09:23
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Neddy Seagoon posted:The moment I saw Thrall was going to be front and center as a main character I knew the odds of that movie being good just tanked. To be fair, Thrall had an actual decent character arc in
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Jun 10, 2016 09:25
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My favourite part was in the current expansion where you have to go back in time to lead an army against the big bad from the previous expansion and his dad. At the end when you're confronting the bad guy you were tasked with leading an army against, he knocks you down... but don't worry THRALL comes in and saves you! Then you get a cutscene where they have a one on one duel and Thrall wins. The name of the quest is "And Justice for Thrall". Guys we should make a movie about this.
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Jun 10, 2016 12:07
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Thrall's a baby in the movie. It's not about him.
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Jun 10, 2016 12:19
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I'm going to see the Warcraft movie, not thinking it will be good, and not out of spite or fan loyalty, but out of prayer that it will be gloriously awful instead of boring awful.
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Jun 10, 2016 12:59
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nine-gear crow posted:To be fair, Thrall had an actual decent character arc in
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Jun 10, 2016 13:52
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Miss Wallace posted:Forgive me if this was already posted, but I recently put up my Top 10 Wildest Moments in the Quantum Leap Novels! It was. Great as always Lupa. I love that you needed five minuets to explain how leaping works just so we can get to someone getting eaten by a bear. Good thing the Jackass crew never got ahold of leaping technology.
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Jun 10, 2016 15:08
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Brad just put out a Midnight Screenings of Warcraft and hey, Jerrid's there! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXAqfR6_NP0 It's an interesting review because Jerrid loved the film but Brad hated it. You can see Jerrid's fan appreciation cover up for the basic flaws of the film, while Brad was having none of it. It's almost awkward because every time Brad makes fun of the movie you can see Jerrid die a little on the inside. I loved the games up to Frozen Throne, but I can't help rooting for the critics on this one. I'm not sure if that's because of my vitriolic disappointment in Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2, or me being able to distance myself the things I love. i am tim! posted:My favourite part was in the current expansion where you have to go back in time to lead an army against the big bad from the previous expansion and his dad. At the end when you're confronting the bad guy you were tasked with leading an army against, he knocks you down... but don't worry THRALL comes in and saves you! Then you get a cutscene where they have a one on one duel and Thrall wins. Terrible Opinions posted:The weird thing where they decided Thrall had to get an orc girlfriend to avoid miscegenation was one of the dumbest parts of WoW.
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Jun 10, 2016 15:44
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What makes it fundamentally stupid is it happens halfway through the fight instead of at the end or in place of it, so it's just an arbitrary "YOU ARE STUNNED AND HELPLESS NOW" once you've readily smacked Garrosh down past 50% HP because your efforts mean nothing player, here let Thrall save the day!  .It's even worse Alliance-side, because they have a new character with an arc culminating in facing down Garrosh aaand it's taken out back and shot by that moment.
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Jun 10, 2016 15:52
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Thrall is front and center in Warcraft content because he's the hero of the Warcraft story, full stop.
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Jun 10, 2016 16:23
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MisterBibs posted:Thrall is front and center in Warcraft content because he's the hero of the Warcraft story, full stop. Yeah so it'd be nice if to tell that story they made a game where he was the player character and not an MMO.
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Jun 10, 2016 16:25
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Terrible Opinions posted:Yeah so it'd be nice if to tell that story they made a game where he was the player character and not an MMO. He basically is, you're just temporarily playing some (comparitively) unimportant background character. They've slightly gone away with it in the current (and next) expansions, but playing Warcraft games and expecting you to upstage the actual main characters is setting oneself up for a fall. Bit of half-assed WoW trivia that comes before I played: the Big Important Plots in vanilla WoW were explicitly done by The Players, but then people bitched about some random folks managing to do such Big Important Things. So Blizzard retconned it and said that, no, some King did it. MisterBibs fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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Jun 10, 2016 16:30
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World of Warcraft sucks. The movie sucks. I'm glad I stopped playing years ago and I lol'd at everyone who told me the movie was gonna be good.
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Jun 10, 2016 16:33
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MisterBibs posted:He basically is, you're just temporarily playing some (comparitively) unimportant background character. They've slightly gone away with it in the current (and next) expansions, but playing Warcraft games and expecting you to upstage the actual main characters is setting oneself up for a fall. Actually the way they generally did it, and quite well, in the older expansions is you and 25-40 of your buddies rock up alongside the big hero as Plan B in case Plan A does not go well against the big finale Raid Boss. Plan A does not go well. Terrible Opinions posted:Yeah so it'd be nice if to tell that story they made a game where he was the player character and not an MMO. Don't forget the new expansion where the initial previews spoke of it focusing on Sylvanas and the Forsaken before capping it off with a mention of "but don't worry, Thrall's still got a story to tell!  "
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Jun 10, 2016 16:48
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MisterBibs posted:He basically is, you're just temporarily playing some (comparitively) unimportant background character. They've slightly gone away with it in the current (and next) expansions, but playing Warcraft games and expecting you to upstage the actual main characters is setting oneself up for a fall.
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Jun 10, 2016 16:54
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MrSlam posted:Brad just put out a Midnight Screenings of Warcraft and hey, Jerrid's there! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXAqfR6_NP0 "There was a night where I was stranded in Detroit" 
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Jun 10, 2016 18:57
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MisterBibs posted:Thrall is front and center in Warcraft content because he's the hero of the Warcraft story, full stop. The retcon where orcs were misunderstood good guys was the weakest aspect of 3, too. It didn't suck as hard as when SC2 tried to do the exact same thing with the Zerg, but it was still pretty lame.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:02
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I only have experience with 2 MMOs, Old Republic and Secret World, and both manage to have your character do the the important things while having larger stories.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:47
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BigRed0427 posted:It was. Great as always Lupa. I love that you needed five minuets to explain how leaping works just so we can get to someone getting eaten by a bear. Ah okay, the thread was taken over for awhile so I wasn't sure, lol. Thanks. I probably didn't need to explain how leaping works for that but I think it's important to note that in the novel it's basically "Hey, it's okay because it's not really his body!"
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Jun 10, 2016 20:15
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MonsieurChoc posted:I only have experience with 2 MMOs, Old Republic and Secret World, and both manage to have your character do the the important things while having larger stories. Yeah like bringing Darth revan back long after his expiration date, or making the most boring overpowered sith emperor in all of star wars.
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Jun 10, 2016 20:19
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Stink gently caress Rob posted:The retcon where orcs were misunderstood good guys was the weakest aspect of 3, too. It didn't suck as hard as when SC2 tried to do the exact same thing with the Zerg, but it was still pretty lame. It's something the Blizzard writers who I collectively call Chris Metzen are fond of. Bad guys don't do things out of self-interest or cultural differences or character flaws or ulterior motives, they do them because they got mind-controlled, corrupted by demons, addicted to drug-magic, and had badness written into their DNA by a rogue extra dimensional alien. Unless of course they are actual literal demons where they don't need an excuse. As one dimensional as he is, I still believe Arcturus Mengsk is the best villain in anything Blizzard's done simply because he's the most human. The pussifying of the orcs was something that never sat well with me either. In Warcraft 2's campaigns they talk about sacrificing to dark gods and slaughtering and burning the survivors. Oh wait, I guess they were pacifistic mother goddess worshiping noble savages instead. They were only ever evil because of a few bad apples.
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Jun 10, 2016 20:21
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I'm reasonably convinced that in terms of those writing Blizzard stuff, they (rightfully) look back at WC1/2 style Orcs, design wise, with barely contained embarrassment. It's like the kind of stuff I drew as an angsty 90s kid.
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Jun 10, 2016 21:25
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MisterBibs posted:I'm reasonably convinced that in terms of those writing Blizzard stuff, they (rightfully) look back at WC1/2 style Orcs, design wise, with barely contained embarrassment. It's like the kind of stuff I drew as an angsty 90s kid. Because their writing these days is so much better. It's just 1. Corruption™ 2. Go to 1 which coincidentally is basically how angsty 90s kids write.
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Jun 10, 2016 21:28
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MrSlam posted:It's something the Blizzard writers who I collectively call Chris Metzen are fond of. Bad guys don't do things out of self-interest or cultural differences or character flaws or ulterior motives, they do them because they got mind-controlled, corrupted by demons, addicted to drug-magic, and had badness written into their DNA by a rogue extra dimensional alien. Unless of course they are actual literal demons where they don't need an excuse. As one dimensional as he is, I still believe Arcturus Mengsk is the best villain in anything Blizzard's done simply because he's the most human. Granted I played it a long-rear end time ago but I remember Arthas's gradual corruption in Warcraft 3 being a pretty drat good story arc. It still boils down in the end to him being cursed by EVIL but it was well-executed I think. MonsieurChoc posted:I only have experience with 2 MMOs, Old Republic and Secret World, and both manage to have your character do the the important things while having larger stories. Final Fantasy XIV gives your player character a ton of plot importance. In fact it almost becomes a bit distracting because at times the game seems to forget that you fought through those dungeons and toppled those demigods with a group of 3-7 other heroes. I much prefer that weird disparity over just being a grunt who happens to be in the room when the REAL heroes do cool things, though.
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Jun 10, 2016 21:48
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Arcsquad12 posted:Yeah like bringing Darth revan back long after his expiration date, or making the most boring overpowered sith emperor in all of star wars. My Imperial Agent punched Revan in the face without even force powers. Although apparently he comes back again in the expansion. Still, my point sort-of stands.
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Jun 10, 2016 21:48
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Augus posted:Granted I played it a long-rear end time ago but I remember Arthas's gradual corruption in Warcraft 3 being a pretty drat good story arc. Try playing it again one of these days. It's not well written.
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Jun 10, 2016 21:50
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Andrast posted:Try playing it again one of these days. It's not well written. Duly noted  I've never had much attachment to Warcraft lore anyway.
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Jun 10, 2016 21:51
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Augus posted:Granted I played it a long-rear end time ago but I remember Arthas's gradual corruption in Warcraft 3 being a pretty drat good story arc. It still boils down in the end to him being cursed by EVIL but it was well-executed I think. I think the problem here is that he's portrayed as a goody goody altruistic guy and then suddenly he's callous and stranding his men at the north pole. It's a decline, it doesn't happen at once but it's still a pretty steep decline. That's why it was easier to believe Frostmourne was calling out to him and messing with his mind than that his sanity came apart naturally. Don't get me wrong though I do like Arthas and that entire campaign but in the end I do think Frostmourne wiggled its way into his brain and he got the corruption.
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Jun 10, 2016 22:02
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Arthas was kind of a douche even before any of his corruption stuff started.
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Jun 10, 2016 22:15
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Andrast posted:Try playing it again one of these days. It's not well written. I always felt like Warcraft 3 was an idiot plot. If anyone had acted intelligently at all at any point they'd have easily stopped Arthas and his bullshit. Edit: Well this kinda sucks for him. Surprised I didn't see it brought up at all. 
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Jun 10, 2016 22:16
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Tracula posted:I always felt like Warcraft 3 was an idiot plot. If anyone had acted intelligently at all at any point they'd have easily stopped Arthas and his bullshit. It was the coolest poo poo when you were a teenager though.
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Arthas plot was alright, especially for a RTS. It was shallow, but for a story that is motley told though cutscenes inveterate battles, they did a good enough job. The Orc plot however is pretty lame, they even try to make Doomhammer of al people into an at least somewhat good guy. The got the orcs from Warhammer and the football hooligan approach worked so much better than they corrupted good guys angle. I mean, if they really wanted to turn the orcs around, them just being ignorant about the suffering they caused due to their natural attraction to violence would have worked a lot better.
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