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boom boom boom posted:Nobody is calling Robert dad of the year, but if a kid brings you the corpse of a cat he killed, that's a pretty serious issue! If a cat brings you a corpse of a bird, that's not an issue, because it's a cat. I agree it is serious, and should be addressed. I am simply saying that 1) GRRM used Joffrey cutting out the baby cats to show that Joffrey was a "psychopath"/terrible person 2) That example alone did not make me think Joffrey was a "psychopath"/terrible person 3) That example made me think that Joffrey had some lovely parents It is clear very early on that Joffrey is a little poo poo - I don't think anyone is contesting that. It sounds like to many of you, Joffrey's actions are a clear indicator that he is a "bad" person. To me they are a clear indicator that Joffrey was a victim of physical or sexual abuse, surrounded by domestic violence, or that the events occurred before he was old enough to really understand the ramifications of his actions ( e.g. under 7 or so maybe more if his little incest brain was developmentally disabled ).
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Knuc U Kinte posted:You are an idiot. Knuc U Kinte, when you call me names, it hurts my feelings. For example, earlier today you called me an idiot. I feel: -Ashamed -Inadequate -Hostile
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Solice Kirsk posted:He's right guys. Joffrey who had his future wife beaten and stripped in front of court and then made her look at her dead dad's head, not to mention mutilating animals as a kid and showing no empathy ever in the entire text, can not be called a psychopath because gurm didn't write a 10 page psych eval letting us know explicitly that Joffrey was "a psychopath." At most we can only say he was "not a good guy." kcroy posted:
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emanresu tnuocca posted:The horn benjen stashed at the fist of the first men is a much more likely candidate to be Chekhov's horn, it even appeared on the show. Ben was First Ranger and the rangers carried horns to sound their return to the Wall, spotting wildlings/others...etc. It's a normal horn Sam finds. Either way, this season is going to end with the wall coming down (and Edd's probably going to die in the process  ). Any doubt to that was pretty much immediately removed when Jon makes his "don't knock it down" comment.Hogge Wild posted:he's a fictive character from a hack fantasy series Had to make sure I wasn't in the Rothfuss thread for a minute there.
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Goons pick the worst loving arguments to die on.
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Possibly Chicken posted:Goons pick the worst loving arguments to die on. Would they truly be goons if they didn't. Makes you think
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Nobody's said it yet so I'll say it. The idea of Dolorous Edd being the Lord Commander of the Night's Watch is ridiculous and it sounds like a comedy sketch.
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If Ed is the commander than 100% that wall is going to fall, with him on it. I think he said as much?
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as dumb as some of the poo poo in these books is, cruelty to animals is part of the macdonald triad (which isn't thought to be that accurate nowadays but sorta beside the point) to identify sociopathy.
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yes but joffrey is just being a cat, and furthermore
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That triad needs to include subjecting your readerbase to a protagonist pooping in the woods.
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Joffrey crawled away from the iron throne, meowing, in an attempt to conceal his boner
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The Cut of Your Jib posted:I feel like this has turned into the Wild Cards thread. I think that means at least one other person here has actually read the wild cards thread! Because it is awesome!
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kcroy posted:I think that means at least one other person here has actually read the wild cards thread! Because it is awesome! Someone actually read wildcardas?
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Daius posted:Joffrey crawled away from the iron throne, meowing, in an attempt to conceal his boner lol
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Elias_Maluco posted:Someone actually read wildcardas? Well I read it like years ago before game of thrones. but even if you haven't, the thread is great - it gives an ongoing synopsis of the books. But I mean you will have a while before the next ASOIAF comes out, so.. perhaps I can interest you in a bit of wildcards? http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3501532
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Daius posted:Joffrey crawled away from the iron throne, meowing, in an attempt to conceal his boner
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There apparently is a speculation that the Faith will choose Tommen as their champion.
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Anders posted:There apparently is a speculation that the Faith will choose Tommen as their champion. That would be hilarious
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Anders posted:There apparently is a speculation that the Faith will choose Tommen as their champion. I hope Tommen believes he can win and accept.
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Gregor is not allowed to fight against Tommen or any champion named by Tommen.
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Anders posted:There apparently is a speculation that the Faith will choose Tommen as their champion. Fucken LMAO that would own.
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Anders posted:There apparently is a speculation that the Faith will choose Tommen as their champion. PLEASE YES.
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But why would even a naive and gullible Tommen fight against the honor of his mother? If he loses, he dies, and if he wins, his mother does.
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mastajake posted:But why would even a naive and gullible Tommen fight against the honor of his mother? If he loses, he dies, and if he wins, his mother does. Margaery's pussy game that strong
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Anders posted:There apparently is a speculation that the Faith will choose Tommen as their champion. lol
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Margaery's pussy game that strong Queen of Thorns' actually.
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Groovelord Neato posted:as dumb as some of the poo poo in these books is, cruelty to animals is part of the macdonald triad (which isn't thought to be that accurate nowadays but sorta beside the point) to identify sociopathy. i've seen a number of sources. academic and otherwise, flat out dismiss the macdonald triad as an urban legend.
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I think if your kid displays a lack of empathy and casually murders a neighbor's dog you might want to take them to a therapist anyway. Just err on the side of caution.
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good advice. but macdonald's triad has been shown to be an inaccurate predictor.
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Blind Sally posted:i've seen a number of sources. academic and otherwise, flat out dismiss the macdonald triad as an urban legend. I just read the other two parts of the triad and haha yeah I could see how that could go the way of freud and get disfavored. All criminals are actually bed wetting piss pants baby boys, okay.
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Krinkle posted:I just read the other two parts of the triad and haha yeah I could see how that could go the way of freud and get disfavored. All criminals are actually bed wetting piss pants baby boys, okay. actually, according to some research, most criminals actually were bed wetting piss pants baby boys: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/shadow-boxing/201203/triad-evil posted:In addition, although the agents found evidence in many of their subjects of at least one of the Macdonald triad factors, they supplied no data about the percentage that had all three. Enuresis, high on the list, was evident in more offenders than animal cruelty, and yet recent research has shown that enuresis is not an indicator of psychological maladjustment. it's just that the triad isn't a good indicator of a serial killer. in studies, they've usually only had one or two of the three--meanwhile, there's a whole bunch of other indicators that pop up way more frequently, such as having callous disregard for other people, coming from single-parent homes, having negligent or abusive parents, having paraphilia, and generally having psychiatric histories. (That's not mentioning the fact that MacDonald originally never used the triad to test on serial killers--he tested it on patients that had only threatened violence). most of these other elements Joffery had anyways and work way better as indicators for him being a little sociopath/psychopath than the Macdonald triad Sally fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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I know this thread is dedicated to bad books, but if you want to read a good book on the subject, check out Jon Ronson's The Psychopath Test.
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CaptainRightful posted:I know this thread is dedicated to bad books, but if you want to read a good book on the subject, check out Jon Ronson's The Psychopath Test.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Ben was First Ranger and the rangers carried horns to sound their return to the Wall, spotting wildlings/others...etc. It's a normal horn Sam finds. Who is to say that was Ben's horn? My impression was that it was much older than that. I guess it will end with the 999th Lord Commander rather than making it to 1000.
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Hogge Wild posted:Queen of Thorns' actually. HNggggg
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Can anyone link me to the video that is just an audio excerpt of the Daenerys being sick in the field from ADWD? I need to send this to someone in the netherlands to explain why they may be having difficulty translating the series.
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Can someone post the rum and tits one with porn music? cant find it on the ole youtube
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