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Holyshoot posted:Why are people ITT buying a 1070 FE card when they are 100 bucks more expensive and the AIB cards are probably going to be better? Impatience and the fact that the difference between my 770 and the 1070 is orders of magnitude greater than the difference between different flavors of 1070.
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Holyshoot posted:Why are people ITT buying a 1070 FE card when they are 100 bucks more expensive and the AIB cards are probably going to be better? Also whats the over under on a place like Fry's having these at their store today so I can go rent one for 30 days while I wait for the AIB versions to show up? they are only $70 more expensive, and that's assuming you can actually get AIB cards at $380. evga's cheapest non-reference model is $420, so people aren't optimistic. also impatience. and also i've heard from a surprising amount of people who just genuinely really like the reference blower/backplate.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:23
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Because they want it now and chances are it will be more than enough for whatever they want to do, anyway.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:23
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It's me, I'm the moron ordering the MSI card for above FE prices. If the Asus or EVGA cards are available before it ships I'll cancel, but MSI has been good to me before and a couple of weeks difference is worth $50 for me since I'm at 4K on a 970. MSI definitely taking advantage of the lack of supply though, no way is that price going to last once the cards are properly in stock.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:23
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Holyshoot posted:Why are people ITT buying a 1070 FE card when they are 100 bucks more expensive and the AIB cards are probably going to be better? Also whats the over under on a place like Fry's having these at their store today so I can go rent one for 30 days while I wait for the AIB versions to show up? The Computer Enthusiast community is built on bad financial decisions. Why do you think RGB LEDs, Watercooling, and gigantic screens are so popular? This is the sort of poo poo that leads you to submersion cooling your dual pentium 3 board in a bathtub. An extra hundred bucks for a weeks advance on a GPU isn't out of the question.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:24
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What do you consider to be a gigantic screen?
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Jun 10, 2016 19:26
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Never mind they don't have it listed on their site just the 1080. Maybe I'll stop buy to rent one if they have any in stock. You have to go to the store to find out. I don't know why they do this poo poo. You can't call to find the stock you have to waste your time to go to the store to find out and be sent away when they don't have any. So dumb.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:26
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Holyshoot posted:Why are people ITT buying a 1070 FE card when they are 100 bucks more expensive and the AIB cards are probably going to be better? Also whats the over under on a place like Fry's having these at their store today so I can go rent one for 30 days while I wait for the AIB versions to show up? I could see getting an FE if you need a blower cooler because you have a very small case with crap air flow or something but I suspect most people are getting the FE because it is more widely available, they don't care about spending the extra $70 and they want a card right away.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:26
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If I'm not going to overclock my GPU will I miss much with a FE edition? I'm willing to wait if the difference is really going to be noticeable @ stock speeds, but I kinda want a new card now  .
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Jun 10, 2016 19:26
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Desuwa posted:It's me, I'm the moron ordering the MSI card for above FE prices. If the Asus or EVGA cards are available before it ships I'll cancel, but MSI has been good to me before and a couple of weeks difference is worth $50 for me since I'm at 4K on a 970. Yeah, the $719 MSI was the best I could get this morning. At least the reviews I've seen for it have been positive. Now I almost don't wanna play any games until it shows up. 144fps in everything is gonna be fun times.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:27
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PerrineClostermann posted:The Computer Enthusiast community is built on bad financial decisions. Why do you think RGB LEDs, Watercooling, and gigantic screens are so popular? This is the sort of poo poo that leads you to submersion cooling your dual pentium 3 board in a bathtub. An extra hundred bucks for a weeks advance on a GPU isn't out of the question. Gigantic screens are never a bad decision  Seriously though, you spend every second you use your computer looking at it and the extra money makes a huge difference. The thought of a 1080 actually driving 1080 at 60 Hz makes me nauseous and the thought of it being TN is too much to bear, and I know some people are doing it because they wanted to save money for the card.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:28
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xthetenth posted:Gigantic screens are never a bad decision Oh, definitely. I finally have an IPS screen now that I've picked up this 29UM67 and it's incredible how different it is. But you can more than get by with a 100 dollar screen, you know? Just like how you can get by with a 100 dollar GPU, or even an IGP if you're not playing anything wild. But you could also spend 1400 USD on a dual 1080 setup and another 1000 on a curved 3440x1440...
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Jun 10, 2016 19:30
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Mr E posted:If I'm not going to overclock my GPU will I miss much with a FE edition? I'm willing to wait if the difference is really going to be noticeable @ stock speeds. The cards all automatically overclock so there will be some difference, yes. The gains from OCing are around 10%-15% so far and the aftermarket cards seem to clock up much higher than the FE all on their own, for instance in one review of one of the aftermarket 1070s it automatically OCed iself to ~1970MHz, well over stock.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:30
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:The cards all automatically overclock so there will be some difference, yes. The gains from OCing are around 10%-15% so far and the aftermarket cards seem to clock up much higher than the FE all on their own, for instance in one review of one of the aftermarket 1070s it automatically OCed iself to ~1970MHz, well over stock. Ah, I'll go ahead and wait for aftermarket then.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:31
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So, does 'aftermarket' refer to any card not sold directly from Nvidia? Is EVGA's FE 1070 aftermarket?
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Jun 10, 2016 19:33
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PerrineClostermann posted:Oh, definitely. I finally have an IPS screen now that I've picked up this 29UM67 and it's incredible how different it is. And you can get by without a computer at all, what is sensible depends entirely on one's personal finances so getting up in arms over someone buying fancy computer equipment including silly RGB LED covered stuff is dumb as poo poo.
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PerrineClostermann posted:Oh, definitely. I finally have an IPS screen now that I've picked up this 29UM67 and it's incredible how different it is. Yeah, those are all options, and depending on how much you want to spend they can all be worth it. I personally consider spending more to get a component that turns electricity into slightly fewer fps and more noise to not be worth it. Still, most of us are turning money into warm fuzzies so it's a different kind of economics where the irrational has a value too. Also stop imbalanced build shaming my poor 290. It's trying its best.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:37
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PerrineClostermann posted:Oh, definitely. I finally have an IPS screen now that I've picked up this 29UM67 and it's incredible how different it is. Honestly, these days i think gamers waste more money on their cpu/mobo/memory/storage etc than the gpu or display. An upgrade to the former can have literally no perceptible impact on a game in many circumstances.
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Spiritus Nox posted:So, does 'aftermarket' refer to any card not sold directly from Nvidia? Is EVGA's FE 1070 aftermarket? You have reference cards and non reference cards. Reference cards are the founders editions. Cards that do not have the stock metal cooler after non reference cards.
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Spiritus Nox posted:So, does 'aftermarket' refer to any card not sold directly from Nvidia? Is EVGA's FE 1070 aftermarket? No, those FE are sold to EVGA and so on by Nvidia, we are talking about cards manufactured by the various AIBs. Mr E posted:Ah, I'll go ahead and wait for aftermarket then. Just so you know OCing a GPU is risk free and pretty easy, you cannot break the card by OCing until you get into the arcane realm of custom BIOS hacks and such.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:No, those FE are sold to EVGA and so on by Nvidia, we are talking about cards manufactured by the various AIBs. Both good to know, thanks.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:And you can get by without a computer at all, what is sensible depends entirely on one's personal finances so getting up in arms over someone buying fancy computer equipment including silly RGB LED covered stuff is dumb as poo poo. What I'm getting at is computer enthusiasts will spend tons of money on quickly diminishing returns, where "mainstream" will go for price/performance, and "normals" not even that. It shouldn't be surprising that people are paying gouged prices.
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xthetenth posted:Gigantic screens are never a bad decision I like using Custom Resolution, even more so than DSR which if I remember right, adds a blur filter. My 1080 is running at 3264x1836p. AVeryLargeRadish posted:The cards all automatically overclock so there will be some difference, yes. The gains from OCing are around 10%-15% so far and the aftermarket cards seem to clock up much higher than the FE all on their own, for instance in one review of one of the aftermarket 1070s it automatically OCed iself to ~1970MHz, well over stock. It's still down to the Silicon Lottery. JayzTwoCents' MSI Gaming X 8G was slower than the FE version. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rHjgnBtxhM [edit] The 8G was probably 10 times quieter though 
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Ooo EVGA cashing out on the 1070's for some reason Also   They never cease to annoy me lol
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:Ooo EVGA cashing out on the 1070's for some reason The FE label adds 10fps. 
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Deuce posted:MSI sea hawk 1080 listed at $749 at newegg. (Currently sold out) Look back at every page of this thread and you'll see exactly who buys these - you can spot them by their impatience and rage at low/no stock items. They remind me a lot of retail work where idiots come in and see something's out of stock, then harass you about "checking the back" because they have an entitlement complex and think you're lying.
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Bleh Maestro posted:EVGA's 1070 pricing looks like its starting at like $420 for the lowest card :\ Yeah it sucks. I was figuring non-FE would be more in the $400+ range and not $420+ like I'm seeing since at that point it's basically "is this worth it over just getting a FE?" Not that any are in stock anywhere.  http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-6171-KR Been leaning towards this one from EVGA, if/when it's available anyways. Haven't checked up on MSI or others who might be good (Gigabyte?) brands. AVeryLargeRadish posted:Just so you know OCing a GPU is risk free and pretty easy, you cannot break the card by OCing until you get into the arcane realm of custom BIOS hacks and such. I've never OC'd a video card but once I get my new machine built (thanks for the help  ) I might give it a try and then fire up whatever the most demanding game is I have on hand to see how it goes. Unless it makes the machine louder, maybe.
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LOL at the max power draw figure being 65 watts higher for the FTW.
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gently caress this FOUNDERS EDITION bullshit. I blame Kickstarter.
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Deuce posted:MSI sea hawk 1080 listed at $749 at newegg. (Currently sold out) wait whats wrong with sea hawks, isnt that factory water cooled
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I bought an FE because with shipping from EVGA the SC was $10 more expensive, and they canceled my order for one anyway so I had to grab an MSI FE from newegg. There's a $420 ACX3 coming "soon" but that's still just about the same price with EVGAs lovely shipping. Sure I could wait till they get to places with better shipping but, meh, not waiting for an unknown amount of time is worth 'losing" $30 to me. plus all the problems with the fe are crazy overblown. and I kinda like the shroud.
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Ak Gara posted:It's still down to the Silicon Lottery. JayzTwoCents' MSI Gaming X 8G was slower than the FE version. Yes, I have seen that video, but the person I was replying to was asking about how the cards perform at stock, in that case the aftermarket one will always be faster because of better cooling and higher OOTB base and boost clocks.
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Geez, the new 1070 prices in Australia are a bit hosed, we're looking at around $770AUD, when an AIB 1080 is $1139. Would I be correct in assuming that a 390x at around $500 actually makes sense if one was to only do 1080p?
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Guni posted:Geez, the new 1070 prices in Australia are a bit hosed, we're looking at around $770AUD, when an AIB 1080 is $1139. Would I be correct in assuming that a 390x at around $500 actually makes sense if one was to only do 1080p? Just get a used 970.
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PerrineClostermann posted:The Computer Enthusiast community is built on bad financial decisions. Why do you think RGB LEDs, Watercooling, and gigantic screens are so popular? This is the sort of poo poo that leads you to submersion cooling your dual pentium 3 board in a bathtub. An extra hundred bucks for a weeks advance on a GPU isn't out of the question. Watercooling to get a completely silent PC in the days of 6k RPM CPU fans and vacuum cleaners on GPUs was worth every penny. And the cost of upgrading the system is fairly marginal.
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Guni posted:Geez, the new 1070 prices in Australia are a bit hosed, we're looking at around $770AUD, when an AIB 1080 is $1139. Would I be correct in assuming that a 390x at around $500 actually makes sense if one was to only do 1080p? I would wait and see what the price on the RX 480 ends up looking like down there, prices are usually pretty hosed in Australia but the RX 480 should be more like $300-$350 AUD going by exchange rate plus gently caress Australia pricing, plus the RX 480 will be faster than the 390X if leaked benchmarks are true.
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AlternateAccount posted:gently caress this FOUNDERS EDITION bullshit. I blame Kickstarter. never buy flounders
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Honestly, at this point I'm tempted to cancel my FTW preorder and just buy the founders edition MSI that appears to be in stock on newegg. I'll pay $20 more, but EVGA just updated guidance that the initial FTW order is going to EVGA.COM only and I'm really questioning what FTW gives me except a slightly quieter cooler. None of the custom designs seem to give more OC headroom so there's very little reason to want custom power phases.
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