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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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RIP Paul Walker posted:A few other things, like OEM wiper blade suckitude and crap speakers can be solved by money but will annoy you before they get replaced. I already knew about the turning radius and visibility before I got mine but wow I couldn't believe my 2000 Honda Civic had better speakers than my 2015 Focus. Also, gently caress those wiper blades.
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Jun 9, 2016 17:53
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fyodor posted:I already knew about the turning radius and visibility before I got mine but wow I couldn't believe my 2000 Honda Civic had better speakers than my 2015 Focus. Also, gently caress those wiper blades. I put JL C2-650 speakers in mine - cut up the stock speakers to do it. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant, if you set it to Driver Optimized and knock down the midrange a couple notches. The first set of OEM 29" blades I had were broken from the factory. Warranty replacement blades (oh god gently caress Ford dealers, what a pain) didn't last for poo poo so I replaced them with 28" Motorcraft blades from the dealer 'cause the interweb said they were great. NOPE! Next season I'm going to get a set of Bosch Icon 28OE - or, if I can find them, Bosch Icon 28OEA and 28OEB, so the spoilers are pointed the correct way versus being in the center. Haven't had any loving luck finding the 28OEB, but the 28OEA is pretty easy to come by. I've been spoiled by years of Bosch Icon and Evolution on my other cars, which last forever and work great.
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Jun 9, 2016 18:26
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Try a Focus with the titanium handling package for turning radius. It's 40'.
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Jun 9, 2016 19:16
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Bovril Delight posted:Try a Focus with the titanium handling package for turning radius. It's 40'. This was one of the things that kept me from a Focus ST in their first year of production. I keep hoping it gets better, but I guess we'll have to wait for a complete revamp.
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Jun 9, 2016 19:21
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I learned to drive in a 1974 Ford F-250, so the turning radius has never been a big deal to me, it's just something you understand and compensate for when performing tight maneuvers or deciding whether to try a U-turn or whatever. I got my Focus ST for less than a $1000 more than a comparably equipped FiST, so it was a no-brainer decision for me to go with the more comfortable and larger Focus.
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Jun 9, 2016 19:32
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Bill Pierre Ford in Seattle is selling a Focus RS for 56k. What the gently caress?
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Jun 9, 2016 19:34
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Yeah.... I'll be ordering one from the factory at msrp or not at all.
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Jun 9, 2016 19:39
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I mean I can see a small markup, but 20k on a 35k car is bananas.
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Jun 9, 2016 19:41
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It was probably loaded to the gills. Still, that's a $10k markup on a $45k car.
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Jun 9, 2016 19:46
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Still less than the average Golf R markup. Only half joking.
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Jun 9, 2016 23:49
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Lol "my turning radius!"
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Jun 9, 2016 23:52
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It's not a hatch, but anyone drive an m2? It's not THAT much more, and might be a good backup if I can't get an RS without an insane markup.
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Jun 10, 2016 00:01
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fyodor posted:Lol "my turning radius!" A tight turning circle is not something you fully appreciate until it's time to parallel park in a tight spot. That's the only time it truly bothers me but HOLY gently caress is it bothersome at that time. Enough to bitch on the internet more than once, that's for sure
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Jun 10, 2016 00:19
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Bovril Delight posted:Bill Pierre Ford in Seattle is selling a Focus RS for 56k. What the gently caress? Bill Pierre Ford in Seattle are lying, scummy pieces of poo poo and almost certainly don't have an RS. They advertise cars they don't have so you come to the lot and they can hard sell you on something else. They pull poo poo like this, http://mynorthwest.com/29900/car-dealership-backs-off-after-being-accused-of-taking-advantage-of-elderly-couple/
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Jun 10, 2016 00:20
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Pryor on Fire posted:Still less than the average Golf R markup. Only half joking. What markup. MSRP? Fine, gently caress you, I know someone else will buy it. STOP loving RUNNING IN TO ME YOU ASSHOLES. Anyhoo. The turning radius on the R is pretty huge, i think it's because of the weird steering layout, but this car seems to have a huge turning radius compared to my 11 TDI Golf. Also, she made it home today.. Before  After  Suggestions for how to shake it down. Gonna throw my poor DWS tires back on tomorrow. They're at 4/32 so I'm gonna do my best to ruin them by the end of the summer so I can get my new tires mounted. Just feel bad trashing tires that can be abused for fun.
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Jun 10, 2016 05:29
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I don't have an issue with visibility in my FoST but the turning radius is awful and fairly annoying since I parallel park the car in Boston.
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Jun 10, 2016 13:59
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I don't have an issue with visibility in my Focus ST.... As long as I stick my head outside of the sunroof. Perfect panoramic view.
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Jun 10, 2016 14:50
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Its one of the reasons I kept my 8th gen civic si instead of getting a FoST. The visibility was unacceptable, I couldnt get used to it, and didnt want to buy the ST3 to get the rear view camera. Shame, great car otherwise, but I guess thats just how modern cars are.
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Jun 10, 2016 14:54
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RIP Paul Walker posted:A tight turning circle is not something you fully appreciate until it's time to parallel park in a tight spot. That's the only time it truly bothers me but HOLY gently caress is it bothersome at that time. Enough to bitch on the internet more than once, that's for sure Turning radius is actually a thing for me with the way my garage and driveway are set up  I can turn my Golf around to back into the garage fairly easily with the door closed. I don't think that would be the case with a Focus.
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Jun 10, 2016 15:24
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PaintVagrant posted:and didnt want to buy the ST3 to get the rear view camera. My ST3 doesn't have that either. I just use my mirrors and prayers.
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Jun 10, 2016 16:32
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KillHour posted:I've basically just decided that my next car has to be a Focus. I got a base model Focus as a rental, and that thing was a loving blast to beat the poo poo out of. The automatic transmission is terrible at hunting and being completely neurotic, but all the sporty trims are manual so that's not a problem. My only question now is whether the RS is worth the premium over the ST. I travel for work 99% of the time, so it will really just be a weekend fun car. Do the RS and be my bro. I'll post a review that will probably just echo everything else you can find on the net. It's coming into Newark on Monday, but loving lol if that means anything there's cars that arrived in early May still sitting in Newark. Yet people in California have their cars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9zY3jCGTiQ I've enjoyed this guys videos as a real world review.
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Jun 10, 2016 16:51
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I may have the opportunity to sell my 2015 Focus SE 1.0 6-speed - if I want something smaller, a lot faster, and automatic, what are my options? Are there any?
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Jun 10, 2016 19:34
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A Miata.
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Jun 10, 2016 19:42
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PaintVagrant posted:Its one of the reasons I kept my 8th gen civic si instead of getting a FoST. The visibility was unacceptable, I couldnt get used to it, and didnt want to buy the ST3 to get the rear view camera. Shame, great car otherwise, but I guess thats just how modern cars are. Weird because I have the ST1 and have a backup camera. 
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Jun 10, 2016 19:47
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fyodor posted:Weird because I have the ST1 and have a backup camera. Focus has it standard, Fiesta doesn't have it as an option on any trim level
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Jun 10, 2016 20:00
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What year did it go standard? I thought it was st3 only, clearly I'm wrong 
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Jun 10, 2016 20:50
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PaintVagrant posted:What year did it go standard? I thought it was st3 only, clearly I'm wrong 2015
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Jun 10, 2016 20:54
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RIP Paul Walker posted:I may have the opportunity to sell my 2015 Focus SE 1.0 6-speed - if I want something smaller, a lot faster, and automatic, what are my options? Are there any? FiST with a driver?
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Jun 10, 2016 20:57
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Significantly smaller, faster, and AT is basically impossible. The GTI is a bit smaller and can be had with the DSG.
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Jun 10, 2016 20:59
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Abarths are very small, come in automatic and can be had for cheap because Fiat is doing poorly in the US and no one likes the car but me   I DRIVE A SHOE
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Jun 10, 2016 21:17
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haha despite visiting the Fiat website multiple times today I completely forgot about that poo poo
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Jun 10, 2016 21:20
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or hey get the new Abarth Spyder which is just a Miata but turbo and probably worse but will sound amazing    
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Jun 10, 2016 21:24
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By all accounts it's actually better. I don't think we are getting the matte hood and trunk option in the US, though, at least not according to the current configurator.
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Jun 10, 2016 21:31
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^^^lol you posted this right as I posted this: Huh there are reviews out for that car now and several places are saying it's better than the Miata  http://jalopnik.com/the-2017-fiat-124-spider-really-is-better-than-the-miat-1781392740 http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/124-spider/first-drive-0 http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/abarth/124/95868/abarth-124-spider-2016-review
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Jun 10, 2016 21:32
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I don't get why they don't have the matte options. If I'm getting an Abarth I want it to look as absurd as possible.
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Jun 10, 2016 21:34
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RIP Paul Walker posted:Focus has it standard, Fiesta doesn't have it as an option on any trim level Good to know but he was talking about Focus ST.
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Jun 10, 2016 21:40
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If you own a fiat that isn't a 4c your doing it wrong.
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Jun 10, 2016 21:41
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Ehud posted:Abarths are very small, come in automatic and can be had for cheap because Fiat is doing poorly in the US and no one likes the car but me I tried to like the car, but I have driven literal buses with better seating positions. Sounds cool though.
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Jun 10, 2016 21:56
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Had no idea the Abarth came in automatic, I wonder how it is! Thanks for the heads up on that. fyodor posted:Good to know but he was talking about Focus ST. Hey buddy, no difference in the answer between the trim levels.
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Jun 10, 2016 22:03
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iwentdoodie posted:I tried to like the car, but I have driven literal buses with better seating positions. It is an insanely weird seating position, I'll grant you that. I like my dumb little car overall. It's been a lot of fun for not many dollars. I got a 2013 with 6k miles for 16k last summer. Leather seats, 17" wheels, audio package. Pretty good deal.
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