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theflyingorc posted:There are special considerations for women getting married, because, like I said, the law was written a really long time ago and was never updated. Maybe not 15 years ago, but I wager an equal protection lawsuit would be pretty effective at fixing that these days.
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theflyingorc posted:Speaking of weird names, I am amazed that the Republican attack machine never found it interesting that Barack Obama's mother's name was STANLEY. There's a non-zero amount of attacks. IIRC there's a subtext of "Our precious white women" and tinhat stuff.
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Jarmak posted:But they won that case? Except that the only reason MJ could afford their defense is because their insurer contributed to funding it. Gawker lost that ability.
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Rhesus Pieces posted:In non-Gawker news: Protecting Christian Americans is a nice and good, but that better imply hunting Protestant Americans down like the heretical rabble they are. 
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Randler posted:Protecting Christian Americans is a nice and good, but that better imply hunting Protestant Americans down like the heretical rabble they are. Considering that Trump's at least nominally Presbyterian, I'm not sure that that's what he had in mind.
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So anyone taking odds as to how likely a Leave result for Brexit will lead to a Trump presidency thanks to a probable economic collapse coming from that result?
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I would love to know who told Trump to say he's a Presbyterian.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:So anyone taking odds as to how likely a Leave result for Brexit will lead to a Trump presidency thanks to a probable economic collapse coming from that result? As someone who hasn't really followed eurozone stuff lately, why would a Brexit lead to economic collapse?
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theflyingorc posted:Speaking of weird names, I am amazed that the Republican attack machine never found it interesting that Barack Obama's mother's name was STANLEY. No time for gay panic when racism is afoot. ComradeCosmobot posted:So anyone taking odds as to how likely a Leave result for Brexit will lead to a Trump presidency thanks to a probable economic collapse coming from that result?
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FAUXTON posted:I would love to know who told Trump to say he's a Presbyterian. Especially since the Presbyterian church acknowledges and performs same-sex marriages and allows women in the priesthood.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:So anyone taking odds as to how likely a Leave result for Brexit will lead to a Trump presidency thanks to a probable economic collapse coming from that result? Brexit isn't an overnight thing. The stock market will freak out for a week or two after the result but it probably won't trigger a domino effect. It's also far more likely to gently caress over the British economy than anyone else's. Whatever it is also needs time to percolate so that the voter gets the sense that the economy is bad (they are fired, their kids can't get employed, your brother's business goes under, etc). The time is running out on that kind of cataclysm happening and having enough of an effect by election day.
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MariusLecter posted:Donald Trump: ‘I am the least racist person’ I love how he had to squeeze in a little remark about how Don King's made a lot of money, as if that was relevant to anything at all. He has to do that with everyone he talks about doesn't he, it's almost like a compulsion. It's literally how he values a person's worth, whether they made a lot of money or not.
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VikingofRock posted:As someone who hasn't really followed eurozone stuff lately, why would a Brexit lead to economic collapse? All trade agreements the world has with the EU wouldn't apply to Britain anymore and would need to be renegotiated, plus their terms of access to European markets at large would be far less open. but hey they'd get to tell slavs to gently caress off or whatever bullshit they're peddling these days. Considering how the GBP is a currency kept strong by the import demands of GB, you'd have a massive flight of capital due to the sudden hurdles to importation showing up and you'd also have a bunch of multinational businesses seeking to GTFO since they wouldn't have any of the EU's trade or movement benefits. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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Six times as many Sanders supporters would shift to Clinton over Trump – pollquote:However, the research, conducted by SurveyUSA for the Guardian, also shows that if Sanders were to find a way of staying in the presidential race, it could hand the White House to Trump, who would beat Clinton by three percentage points in that scenario.
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Kalman posted:Except that the only reason MJ could afford their defense is because their insurer contributed to funding it. I fail to see how that's relevant. For one Gawker isn't being bankrupted by legal fees, they're being bankrupted by a judgement. Second the fact that Gawker's optional insurance coverage not covering something they did and got sued for has no bearing on the legitimacy of the suit. A plaintiff shouldn't be required to file extra claims just to make sure they trip the defendant's insurance coverage. But more importantly the key differentiator between the two situations is that one was a legitimate lawsuit and one was a nuisance lawsuit. The handwringing over whether Gawker getting sunk by a vengeful rear end in a top hat funding a legitimate lawsuit because what if a rich person were to try to sink someone with *illegitimate* lawsuits? is dumb because (a) Then it would be some something entirely different, hence the word legitmate, and (b) welcome to about 3 seconds after the idea of a civil lawsuit was first conceived.
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Trumps pivot to the center that scared everyone (consisting of 1 speech read off a teleprompter) was so brief that it was easier to measuare it with a stopwatch than a calendar. 
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FAUXTON posted:All trade agreements the world has with the EU wouldn't apply to Britain anymore and would need to be renegotiated, plus their terms of access to European markets at large would be far less open. The UK gets a massive rebate on EU payments as well (ever since the 1980s). I have a feeling they'll be shut out of the single market and will be forced to apply for EU membership all over again within a decade of leaving, except they won't get sweetheart deals this time. Also people wondering why the nice Swedish family from next door is leaving - after all I only voted to expel the insidious Slavs and Turks.
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FAUXTON posted:All trade agreements the world has with the EU wouldn't apply to Britain anymore and would need to be renegotiated, plus their terms of access to European markets at large would be far less open. But why would that kill the US economy? The UK, sure, I understand the problem. I just don't see how that takes us down with them.
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Antti posted:Brexit isn't an overnight thing. The stock market will freak out for a week or two after the result but it probably won't trigger a domino effect. It's also far more likely to gently caress over the British economy than anyone else's. I know, but my thinking is that the economy has been a bit precarious for a while. Yes, it "bounced back" after China's stock market crashed, but hiring and economic figures have looked rather soft ever since, including a general consensus that the "growth" sectors (e.g. Silicon Valley startups) are starting to see investment tighten. What happens then, when people start really asking questions about the future of the European project? Brexit, in my opinion, could very well be the pin that pops the bubble and triggers the next recession (which, I should add, we are statistically due for). Yes Britain would be hardest hit, but I don't see Europe getting away unscathed, and the US economy is a lot more exposed to Europe than it ever was to China. And yes, while you're right that the window is closing on economics impacting household pocketbooks in a way that would impact the election, Brexit, if it triggered a recession, is perfectly timed to just be inside that window. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jun 10, 2016 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:
Don King also murdered two people, stomping one of them to death. And stole from everyone he promoted. He's a real piece of poo poo, so right up Trump's alley
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Gyges posted:You have to go to court to change your name? I thought you just had to fill out an idiotic number of forms. Depends, when I got married all I had to do was show my marriage license at the SSA that was then enough to change the name on my passport and drivers license, but its different in every state.
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Day Man posted:But why would that kill the US economy? The UK, sure, I understand the problem. I just don't see how that takes us down with them. whats a libor
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Antti posted:Brexit isn't an overnight thing. The stock market will freak out for a week or two after the result but it probably won't trigger a domino effect. It's also far more likely to gently caress over the British economy than anyone else's. Britain never even adopted the Euro as its currency. I have to think a break with the EU would be way less disruptive than the financial woes of countries like Greece and Spain.
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Munkeymon posted:Is the Brexit actually polling well enough to worry about? A new poll just came out with no "undecided" option which had a likely voter poll of 55-45 for Leave. This follows a number of other polls that have showed Leave gaining momentum. The actual Brexit poll is only a few weeks away, so there's not a lot of time for Remain to gain ground.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:
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radical meme posted:Britain never even adopted the Euro as its currency. I have to think a break with the EU would be way less disruptive than the financial woes of countries like Greece and Spain. That's correct. There'll be capital flight (both human and liquid) and a lot of uncertainty, and for a lot of ordinary Britons it will suck an awful lot (say if you're in Northern Ireland, commuting to Ireland, and suddenly there's a border crossing, or your company packs up and leaves and fires you), but it doesn't have enough of a reach to give America an excuse to put Trump in the White House.
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Munkeymon posted:Is the Brexit actually polling well enough to worry about? The general feeling here was that Remain would win comfortably but not massively. The last couple of weeks have had the Remain camp slowly panicking as it gets tighter and tighter. It doesn't help that the whole referendum is just a grinding grey nightmare where awful people scream lies at each other for weeks on end.
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Then, of course, there is the question if nebulous (in the US at least) EU political economic uncertainty would even help Trump. If a major terror attack in Brussels didn't, I'm not anything overseas will
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Must suck to be someone who voted for Scotland to stay in the UK and then have the UK leave the EU. Assuming Scotland isn't a hive of anti-EU voting.
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The European Union should remain whole because the nations of Europe can't be trusted not to be giant fucktards toward eachother and declare war all willy nilly there I said it.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:A new poll just came out with no "undecided" option which had a likely voter poll of 55-45 for Leave. Well that's lovely but wasn't the Scotland polling at +5 GTFO before they voted to remain with a pretty solid margin? Mind you I'm not optimistic that the average voter will understand that a leave vote is a vote to impoverish their nation to avoid dealing with the immigrant scourge or something (nevermind improve the local cuisine again like the Indian immigrants did). I'm just skeptical of the polling since the Scottish polls were so bad. UrbicaMortis posted:It doesn't help that the whole referendum is just a grinding grey nightmare where awful people scream lies at each other for weeks on end. Welcome to how we live for ~1.5 years at a time before presidential elections, I guess?
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Day Man posted:But why would that kill the US economy? The UK, sure, I understand the problem. I just don't see how that takes us down with them. Globalism means every major economy in the world is inextricably linked
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UrbicaMortis posted:The general feeling here was that Remain would win comfortably but not massively. The last couple of weeks have had the Remain camp slowly panicking as it gets tighter and tighter. It doesn't help that the whole referendum is just a grinding grey nightmare where awful people scream lies at each other for weeks on end. I think a problem is that the people who are somewhat indifferent may be in favor of remaining since status quo is king, but at the same time there is an inherent danger that they won't be arsed to show up for the actual election.
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I haven't been paying a bit of attention to the whole Brexit thing. Does it really stem down to not wanting to take in refugees/allow in immigrants from poorer EU nations? If so how do they sugar coat it or are they open about the reasoning?
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https://twitter.com/thelastleg/status/741387713509773314 Truly, the UKMTest political leader.
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call to action posted:The only funnier thing is you thinking he's a she. Well that's not Nikki Haley at all. 
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I haven't been paying a bit of attention to the whole Brexit thing. Does it really stem down to not wanting to take in refugees/allow in immigrants from poorer EU nations? If so how do they sugar coat it or are they open about the reasoning? My understanding is that it's about as cloaked as pre-Trump Republicans were about stopping illegal immigrants from coming to America and international agreements. Only they don't have to pay lip service to being a nation of immigrants and they hold up signs about how this will fix their universal health care. Also, you can't regulate our poor, put upon, innocent banks and finance system.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I haven't been paying a bit of attention to the whole Brexit thing. Does it really stem down to not wanting to take in refugees/allow in immigrants from poorer EU nations? If so how do they sugar coat it or are they open about the reasoning? It's about split between "Pollacks taking are jobs!" and "Belgians taking are sovereignty!"
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Darth Walrus posted:https://twitter.com/thelastleg/status/741387713509773314 
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