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Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

whats great about correlation ids is you ask the user to provide them to you and most of the time they cant so you can just close the ticket as not enough information.

# ? Jun 10, 2016 20:19

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LordSaturn: Aug 12, 2007; sadly unfunny

if I really want to use a Java-style enum on my C# project, what can I do to get close? just an enum and a static wrapper class to go with?

# ? Jun 10, 2016 20:20

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

look I didn't write this application buddy and I know how bad that is

# ? Jun 10, 2016 20:22

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

LordSaturn posted:

if I really want to use a Java-style enum on my C# project, what can I do to get close? just an enum and a static wrapper class to go with?

meaning you want to use them in a switch?

# ? Jun 10, 2016 20:56

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

meaning he wants to be able to define methods on them, and have them have some additional attributes too

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:24

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

LordSaturn posted:

if I really want to use a Java-style enum on my C# project, what can I do to get close? just an enum and a static wrapper class to go with?

Extension methods https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb383974.aspx

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:27

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

I feel like there should be a data structure for this, but I can't think of what

C# code:

List<KeyValuePair<string, string>>

HoboMan fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jun 10, 2016

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:27

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

HoboMan posted:

I feel like there should be a data structure for this, but I can't think of what
C# code:
List<KeyValuePair<string, string>>

Dictionary<string, string>?

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:28

LordSaturn: Aug 12, 2007; sadly unfunny

HoboMan posted:

meaning he wants to be able to define methods on them, and have them have some additional attributes too

yep

Shaggar posted:

Extension methods https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb383974.aspx

it did not occur to me that you could extend an enum, namaste

HoboMan posted:

I feel like there should be a data structure for this, but I can't think of what
C# code:
List<KeyValuePair<string, string>>

is this a weird joke about dictionaries

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:30

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

oh you have to pay $100 to child's play in order to submit games to steam greenlight

my end goal is to make a whole DOS casino games package and put it on steam as like, a lost shareware game from 1992 for 99 cents a la retro city rampage (you can package stuff with dosbox without violating its license)

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:32

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

valve keeping out shovelware by asking the hard questions, like: "do you think your game will make at least $100?"

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:36

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

HoboMan posted:

I feel like there should be a data structure for this, but I can't think of what
C# code:
List<KeyValuePair<string, string>>

Dictionary<K,V> implements IEnumerable<KeyValuePair<K,V>>

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:38

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

HoboMan posted:

meaning he wants to be able to define methods on them, and have them have some additional attributes too

so a class?

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:41

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

also yes

is this code I'm looking at is using List<KeyValuePair<string, string>> everywhere when Dictionary exists

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:41

PokeJoe: Aug 24, 2004; hail cgatan

how do i learn junit

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:42

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

Wheany posted:

so a class?

so in Java enums are weird. they are basically classes but they only have the set number of instances you specified

it's actually super useful, but also super easy to misuse

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:43

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

List<KeyValuePair<String,String>> allows for dupes where Dictionary<String,String> does not

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:45

raminasi: Jan 25, 2005; a last drink with no ice

Shaggar posted:

List<KeyValuePair<String,String>> allows for dupes where Dictionary<String,String> does not

and elements with null keys

not that that's ever a good idea

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:49

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

HoboMan posted:

so in Java enums are weird. they are basically classes but they only have the set number of instances you specified

it's actually super useful, but also super easy to misuse

a class with a private constructor and a few public static final instances.

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:51

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

Shaggar posted:

List<KeyValuePair<String,String>> allows for dupes where Dictionary<String,String> does not

oh poo poo, nice catch

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:53

LordSaturn: Aug 12, 2007; sadly unfunny

Wheany posted:

so a class?

the use case is that I have a grid and I want to track a unit's facing on that grid, so I need to be able to do things like currentFacing.CCW(1);

the wrinkle is that I want to have eight values and then use a flag value to determine whether I'm on a square or hex grid, are diagonals allowed, which way do the hexagons go, etc, and then do the calculations correctly given that

there are other solutions but this one seems the most readable

Wheany posted:

a class with a private constructor and a few public static final instances.

does C# have final? are you just picking fights with anyone who wants an enum with methods? tia

# ? Jun 10, 2016 21:57

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

so doesn't this work:

code:

public class Direction {
	private Direction() {

	}

	public void SomeMethod() {

	}
	
	public static readonly LEFT = new Direction();
	public static readonly RIGHT = new Direction();
}

# ? Jun 10, 2016 22:06

pokeyman: Nov 26, 2006; That elephant ate my entire platoon.

Shaggar posted:

List<KeyValuePair<String,String>> allows for dupes where Dictionary<String,String> does not

also the list is ordered, dictionary is only arbitrarily so

# ? Jun 10, 2016 22:08

LordSaturn: Aug 12, 2007; sadly unfunny

Wheany posted:

so doesn't this work:

code:

public class Direction {
	private Direction() {

	}

	public void SomeMethod() {

	}
	
	public static readonly LEFT = new Direction();
	public static readonly RIGHT = new Direction();
}

I need a method like

code:

public Direction CCW( int x = 0 )
{
	Direction result = ~magic~;
	return result;
}

where ~magic~ is code that considers what grid style we're set to and how many steps to spin and determines the direction to return

I could do this with a big wad of conditionals and recursive stuff but lol to that, so instead I'd need to store a value on each instance to tell it which one it is so it knows what to do. this value could be an enum, but then why did I bother making a class to wrap an enum if an enum can have methods

# ? Jun 10, 2016 22:21

Luigi Thirty: Apr 30, 2006; Emergency confection port.

I don't like how my global namespace is polluted with enums since watcom doesn't support class-style enums added in c++11

# ? Jun 10, 2016 22:23

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

HoboMan posted:

I feel like there should be a data structure for this, but I can't think of what
C# code:
List<KeyValuePair<string, string>>

ok, this but unironically now

# ? Jun 10, 2016 22:25

Zaxxon: Feb 14, 2004; Wir Tanzen Mekanik

HoboMan posted:

ok, this but unironically now

It's called a p-list. Short for property list. Is that what you are asking for?

# ? Jun 10, 2016 22:30

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

Wheany posted:

a class with a private constructor and a few public static final instances.

wont work quite the same as an enum tho.

# ? Jun 10, 2016 22:51

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

Zaxxon posted:

It's called a p-list. Short for property list. Is that what you are asking for?

only finding poo poo about plist files

anyways, connection pooling. if I call several functions where several of them are

C# code:

using(a database connection)

will c# take care of optimizing that or do i need to nest all the calls in larger using statement to get them to pool?

# ? Jun 10, 2016 22:53

Shaggar: Apr 26, 2006

ado.net will handle it for you. it gives you one from the pool on connect and returns it to the pool on dispose.

# ? Jun 10, 2016 22:57

qntm: Jun 17, 2009

Zaxxon posted:

It's called a p-list. Short for property list. Is that what you are asking for?

dang I knew there was a name for that but I was having a hard time googling for it

# ? Jun 10, 2016 23:07

Zaxxon: Feb 14, 2004; Wir Tanzen Mekanik

HoboMan posted:

only finding poo poo about plist files

anyways, connection pooling. if I call several functions where several of them are
C# code:
using(a database connection)
will c# take care of optimizing that or do i need to nest all the calls in larger using statement to get them to pool?

it's from lisp stuff. There are a-lists and p-lists

P lists look like ( key val key val key val key val)
A lists look like ( (key . val) (key . val) )

EDIT:

gently caress I had it backwards. List<KeyValPair<X,Y>> is an A-List. The other one is a P-List.

I mean really they are pretty much the same and I'm still not sure what your actual question is.

Zaxxon fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jun 10, 2016

# ? Jun 10, 2016 23:24

TwoDice: Feb 11, 2005; Not one, two.; Grimey Drawer

Shaggar posted:

List<KeyValuePair<String,String>> allows for dupes where Dictionary<String,String> does not

does c# not have multimaps? what's wrong with you guys

# ? Jun 11, 2016 00:18

The MUMPSorceress: Jan 6, 2012; ^SHTPSTS; Gary’s Answer

I have seen a map of maps of maps of hashtables.

# ? Jun 11, 2016 00:52

Space Whale: Nov 6, 2014

Just posting that if you end up playing monkey in the middle between two higher ups who want you to do different things, the correct option is always "cover your rear end."

Also if I wish to make a SPA toy page and I am a C# dev, would ReactJS just be the best thing to sit on some MVC and get it done in an afternoon?

# ? Jun 11, 2016 00:57

brap: Aug 23, 2004; Grimey Drawer

Space Whale posted:

Just posting that if you end up playing monkey in the middle between two higher ups who want you to do different things, the correct option is always "cover your rear end."

Also if I wish to make a SPA toy page and I am a C# dev, would ReactJS just be the best thing to sit on some MVC and get it done in an afternoon?

react is the best thing for making a SPA toy page, yes.

# ? Jun 11, 2016 01:03

Space Whale: Nov 6, 2014

OK, cool.

So in the future how do you avoid getting told you're the bad fit if two leads argue over how to push code you're writing? What's the CYA except to shrug and run to the bathroom?

Or have your manager say only push reviewed code, then have your team lead say push first so the crucible integration works, then later push revision patches?

Feels like I left a disaster but I hate having to deal with this poo poo and would rather just dodge this bullshit the next time it happens.

I'm glad the industry is booming right now. My whole year here in Austin has been a comedy of errors, but at least one of them was not my fault and the business will cop to it.

# ? Jun 11, 2016 01:21

JewKiller 3000: Nov 28, 2006; by Lowtax

Make sure you interview with the person who would be your boss.
Assess your rapport with this person based on first impressions and how the interview goes. Does he seem chill and interested in working with you? Or overbearing and excited to poz your neg rear end?
Take the job only when you have a positive impression.

# ? Jun 11, 2016 02:24

Space Whale: Nov 6, 2014

JewKiller 3000 posted:

Make sure you interview with the person who would be your boss.
Assess your rapport with this person based on first impressions and how the interview goes. Does he seem chill and interested in working with you? Or overbearing and excited to poz your neg rear end?
Take the job only when you have a positive impression.

# ? Jun 11, 2016 02:35

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30 TO 50 FERAL HOG: Mar 2, 2005

Space Whale posted:

OK, cool.

So in the future how do you avoid getting told you're the bad fit if two leads argue over how to push code you're writing? What's the CYA except to shrug and run to the bathroom?

Or have your manager say only push reviewed code, then have your team lead say push first so the crucible integration works, then later push revision patches?

Feels like I left a disaster but I hate having to deal with this poo poo and would rather just dodge this bullshit the next time it happens.

I'm glad the industry is booming right now. My whole year here in Austin has been a comedy of errors, but at least one of them was not my fault and the business will cop to it.

do what I did and get the fck out of austin

# ? Jun 11, 2016 03:22

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