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Andarel posted:The flip side is that it loses the horrid scribbles that replace the art while he was starting his main hiatus... Well, if the scanlations use the volumes it's generally a lot better, since the art got redrawn for most (all?) of those. But since a lot of the scanlations you'll find are from the SJ releases, that can be a problem admittedly. (Alternatively, getting the Viz releases works pretty well.) Still, I'd recommend the manga first, new anime second, and old anime not at all myself if you're hoping to get up to speed enough to continue the series post-anime.
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If you're down for a long haul I would recommend the anime, if you just want to blaze through it all at once then the manga would probably be the way to go. You can't go wrong with either, really.
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Jun 10, 2016 23:40
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Also, Toonami is now showing the dubbed 2011 anime, and the voices are pretty good.
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Jun 10, 2016 23:44
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i'm just saying you miss out on stuff like
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Jun 10, 2016 23:51
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I haven't read the manga yet besides the stuff after the anime, but generally, manga is the superior medium,
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Jun 10, 2016 23:55
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Manga has a unique art style really and handles dark moments a bit better vs it's always bright/cheery in anime. However starting the chimera ant arc I found it somewhat draggy but I did go anime > manga. I still hope for a sequel to the anime from future manga chapters but that will take some time 
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Wild Horses posted:i'm just saying you miss out on stuff like I thought they handled that moment specifically really well.
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Jun 11, 2016 00:04
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yeah i'm not saying it's bad, but its rare that the anime does the kinds of distortions and changes in tone the manga does it's because the medium is different, but it's the one aspect of hxh that i really come back for again and again edit: i mean just look at that abyss of an eye
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Jun 11, 2016 00:09
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I'm still upset that they took away Kite's introduction from the beginning of the series. So much emotional weight lost.
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Jun 11, 2016 00:20
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Read the first chapter of the manga then watch the anime. Kite problem solved!
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Jun 11, 2016 00:38
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Nahxela posted:I'm still upset that they took away Kite's introduction from the beginning of the series. So much emotional weight lost. Not really. Kite is introduced so early on and without much impact that he's pretty much completely forgettable by the time you reach the Ant arc.
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Genocyber posted:Not really. Kite is introduced so early on and without much impact that he's pretty much completely forgettable by the time you reach the Ant arc. He's literally the entire reason Gon even wants to become a Hunter, the reason why Gon even ends ups wanting to go after his dad and alot of why Gon is so angry in the Chimera Ant arc is based entirely off that fact, as opposed to the new anime where he barely knows him at all and gets super mad because...? I mean yeah he's a friend at that point and growing into a mentor, so I'd expect him to be angry, but the kind've anger he showed would've only been reserved if Kite had been someone as important as he was supposed to be initially. Kite wasn't there for long, but the impact he had on Gon is a very important aspect they never should have removed. You don't see Shanks in One Piece much either, but you certainly don't remove the scene where he inspires Luffy to go out to sea and become a pirate just because of how rarely you see him now do you?
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Asuron posted:He's literally the entire reason Gon even wants to become a Hunter, the reason why Gon even ends ups wanting to go after his dad and alot of why Gon is so angry in the Chimera Ant arc is based entirely off that fact, as opposed to the new anime where he barely knows him at all and gets super mad because...? I mean yeah he's a friend at that point and growing into a mentor, so I'd expect him to be angry, but the kind've anger he showed would've only been reserved if Kite had been someone as important as he was supposed to be initially. Kite is important for Gon. The anime does not change this. They merely change that scene from the first to a flashback that plays after Gon warps to Kite. The only thing having that scene at the very beginning could do is introduce him early to give more emotional attachment for the viewer as Nahxela suggested, but he's there for such a short time that that can't really happen. And introducing him then having literally nothing to do with him until 60 episodes in is just kind of lovely writing, so it's best that they moved that scene.
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Genocyber posted:Kite is important for Gon. The anime does not change this. They merely change that scene from the first to a flashback that plays after Gon warps to Kite. He's important as so far that he knows Gons father. His role of inspiring Gon to actually become a hunter and getting him to look for his dad is basically the entire reason Gon does everything he ends up doing. You can't just replace that with one episode of "Kite knew my dad and thinks he was a really cool guy" and place it at a different spot and expect it to work out, which is what they did. It's not even close to the same thing. Also once again, a character not showing up for long periods of time is not an excuse to remove them, especially if they play that kind've role. . Asuron fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 03:01
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Kite plays no real role until the Chimera Arc. I mean he tells him info that he doesn't need and already knows in the anime. I like Kite but that scene isn't why
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Neither does Shank in One Piece other than inspiring Luffy and that's all you know about him for ages. You could make the same argument that you could skip it because the character could already have known about the One Piece, but then Luffys motivations and actions throughout the story wouldn't make any sense at all. The same thing applies here, by removing that scene , you're removing a huge part of the character that not only informs his decision to do what he does at the beginning, but also makes the level of his fury at losing Kite later on hard to understand. The relationship is not the same, so the level of Gons emotional attachment doesn't make sense.
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A friend of mine didn't ready HxH and only saw the anime and basically got the same Kite experience as I did. People overstate how important that one bit is especially when you're talking about literally solid days of episodes in-between.Asuron posted:Neither does Shank in One Piece other than inspiring Luffy and that's all you know about him for ages. It really isn't the same at all. Shanks is an incredibly important part of Luffy's life. Kite isn't even really mentioned.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:15
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Literally all you have to do is mention to an anime-watcher "oh yeah there was a scene in the beginning with Kite where he meets Gon as a kid but that got cut for the anime" and there you go, the story is told.
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It is less than ideal, but they streamlined a lot of the early story to get to the good stuff faster. There were some interesting parts in the hunter exam arc, but every following arc was much better. Well, maybe not the brief killua rescue arc. That one wasn't great, really.
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Asuron posted:Neither does Shank in One Piece other than inspiring Luffy and that's all you know about him for ages. You could make the same argument that you could skip it because the character could already have known about the One Piece, but then Luffys motivations and actions throughout the story wouldn't make any sense at all. Gon doesn't need to be inspired, he wants to find his dad so he follows his footsteps. That is all you need. Plus let's be real,while I do like Gons freakout scenehis weird attachment is forced as gently caress. In the Manga and anime
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I don't think it's really forced. Gon is a dude who forms incredibly strong attachments on basically a moment's notice. He will do insane poo poo for guys he just met.
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Well either way you feel about the addition of that scene doesn't change that.
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He freaked out because of his intense guilt. Gon knew full well that his presence is what held Kite back. No one was willing to lie to him to say otherwise, either. Pitou didn't even have nen at that point so in a straight one on one fight Kite might have had a shot at beating her if he hadn't lost an arm. While trying to escape from that guilt Gon just got more and more extreme and obsessive until it ended in even more tragedy. And then there was the final kick in the teeth where Kite was reborn as an ant so everything Gon did was completely meaningless.
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TriffTshngo posted:Literally all you have to do is mention to an anime-watcher "oh yeah there was a scene in the beginning with Kite where he meets Gon as a kid but that got cut for the anime" and there you go, the story is told. actually you'll just say "This scene was at the beginning of the story but they moved it because its not relevant for 80 episodes"
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Haha, I forgot about how Chrollo supposedly changed clothes to blend into the audience. How the gently caress does that work? Is this dude so god drat fast that he can put on pants and a shirt without Hisoka noticing? Also, it seems like at the very least Hisoka would have noticed a bunch of copies popping into existence in the stands and would have been able to track down Chrollo based upon that. I think that a normal person could possibly notice that, much less some super fighter dude like Hisoka. Which sort of goes back to a point I made in an earlier post about Chrollo being able to beat Hisoka in a straight fight if he's so ridiculously fast that he can run around making copies without Hisoka being able to follow him. edit: I hope that Phinks ends up kicking Hisoka's rear end in an unexpected upset. Phinks is the coolest Ryodan member. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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All he had to do was steal a jacket and a hat. That is what the copy Hisoka killed was wearing. It wasn't like anyone could identify him by the pants he was wearing. Plus, he could change his appearance with one hand. Giving his appearance to someone else was what the left hand did, so it was one of those bookmark-only things. He could rapidly run around and create puppets while also repeatedly changing his own appearance and then double back to put stamps and seals on them.
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If Hisoka knows how Phinks' ability works then Phinks is boned. edit: goddamn it i should have said phinks is phucked gimme the GOD DAMN candy fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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^^^ Phinks doesn't need his ability, he can just be a total boss and break Hisoka's neck with one hand like he did those mooks in the Yorknew arcSerious Frolicking posted:All he had to do was steal a jacket and a hat. That is what the copy Hisoka killed was wearing. It wasn't like anyone could identify him by the pants he was wearing. Plus, he could change his appearance with one hand. Giving his appearance to someone else was what the left hand did, so it was one of those bookmark-only things. He could rapidly run around and create puppets while also repeatedly changing his own appearance and then double back to put stamps and seals on them. Oh yeah, I totally forgot about how transfer student worked for some reason. Still doesn't quite explain why Hisoka couldn't notice a bunch of people popping into existence (and people around them reacting).
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Ytlaya posted:Oh yeah, I totally forgot about how transfer student worked for some reason. Still doesn't quite explain why Hisoka couldn't notice a bunch of people popping into existence (and people around them reacting). Oh, he totally did notice them reacting. He saw a bunch of puppets in the audience but was unable to see Chrollo doing it. Everyone in the audience was watching him, including Chrollo. So, everyone there was very clear on where Hisoka was and where he was looking at all times.
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Serious Frolicking posted:If Hisoka knows how Phinks' ability works then Phinks is boned. While Phink's ability is quite strong he does not really need it all the time. Phinks is physically superior to Hisoka (In fact he is the only current troupe member that is.) and an enhancer. A lot of Bungee Gum's power if he sticks it to someone comes down to the fact that Hisoka is phyically stronger then them. If he were to say pull Phinks next to him that could actully be pretty bad for him. He has other ways to fight Phinks. The biggest problem if he were to fight Phinks is that Phinks and Feitan pretty much never leave each other's side.
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Nah, I meant that he could easily bind Phinks' right arm enough to prevent it from rotating. But I kind of doubt Hisoka knows that.
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TWIST FIST posted:I wouldnt really call it cheating considering there werent any rules in the first place And Hisoka wanted him to tryhard and give it his best. And he did.
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Ytlaya posted:Phinks is the coolest Ryodan member. thats franklin youre thinking of 
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Serious Frolicking posted:Nah, I meant that he could easily bind Phinks' right arm enough to prevent it from rotating. But I kind of doubt Hisoka knows that. Hisoka was able to share some of the Troupe's powers with Kurapika back in Yorknew, but I don't remember if it stated whose powers it was he knew. Though Machi, Kortopi, Shizuku, Shalnark, and Franklin are probably among them; the first has worked on him directly, while the latter four have simple, obvious powers and at least some were used in front of him. I'd have to go check; I only know for sure that Pakunoda's power wasn't one of them because Kurapika had to learn that one from Killua and Gon. I wouldn't be surprised if Phinks was one of the ones he didn't know, though, since his power is a combat one, so it's not something he'd just see. Not many reasons for Phinks to rev up and obliterate something when they were hanging out at the hideout and all.
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Plus Phinks is a huge jerk and he probably wouldn't trust Hisoka enough to tell him the weather.
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Well, would you?
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hisoka should be 50/50 with a strong enhancer, since he can manipulate you very well with bungee gum and set traps with cards and the like, even though he's going to be weaker phinks hatsu is pretty much nullified though, but that doesn't really matter since enhancers are so strong
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Schubalts posted:Well, would you? It's rubbery outside with a chance of gum and it looks like murder has been forecasted for the week.
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When I read the manga from the start many years ago and when the Ant arc started, I totally had forgotten who the hell was Kaito. That's how important he was.
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