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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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Ehud posted:I don't get why they don't have the matte options. If I'm getting an Abarth I want it to look as absurd as possible. The US press cars had them, as well as the scorpion badges everywhere instead of the Fiat badges that were on the originally shown US car (thankfully). Rumor is the black hood & trunk are port-installed dealer add-ons. The dealer catalog also supposedly offers a louder exhaust and a bypass/blow-off valve, for factory racecar ridiculousness. I think I'm going to end up buying this silly Axis-power sports car...
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Ehud posted:no one likes the car but me     I am sure I mentioned I love your car. I prefer your clear headlights compared to my blacked out ones. Mine is auto and is phenomenal, it blips the throttle, fuel cuts on downshifts and afterfires just the same as the standard.
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Jun 11, 2016 03:44
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Ehud posted:Abarths are very small, come in automatic and can be had for cheap because Fiat is doing poorly in the US and no one likes the car but me Define "cheap."
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Jun 11, 2016 04:04
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Rhyno posted:Define "cheap." I don't know about America, but you can pick up used 2012 abarths for 15k cad atm.
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Jun 11, 2016 04:07
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BigHouseOfBooty posted:I don't know about America, but you can pick up used 2012 abarths for 15k cad atm. The only thing I found locally was a 2013 for $14K us, still more that I'd want to pay. I've been thinking of stepping out of the MS6 and the Abarth is on the list of potential replacements.
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Jun 11, 2016 04:17
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Rhyno posted:Define "cheap." I got mine for 16k last summer. It's a 2013 that had 6k miles, leather seats, bigger wheels, audio package. Edit: I saw some 2012's with cloth seats when I was looking for 12-13k. Ehud fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 04:29
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BigHouseOfBooty posted:
 white Abarth buddies
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Jun 11, 2016 04:30
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There's a 2013 on Beepi for just over $11k. I certainly don't have the money to get it even if I sold my Jeep (and I don't want to sell the Jeep!) but drat it is tempting.
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Jun 11, 2016 04:42
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IOwnCalculus posted:There's a 2013 on Beepi for just over $11k. I certainly don't have the money to get it even if I sold my Jeep (and I don't want to sell the Jeep!) but drat it is tempting. The resale value on these cars is hilariously bad. I can't imagine how mad I would be if I bought one new. Fiat needs the 124 and the 500x to succeed 
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Jun 11, 2016 04:52
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BigHouseOfBooty posted:I don't know about America, but you can pick up used 2012 abarths for 15k cad atm. You can buy new FiSTs for another 1.5 where I live, or a FoST for 2-3 and that's just going off advertised prices. That's a hilariously bad buy if those are even close to actual transaction prices.
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Jun 11, 2016 06:39
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iwentdoodie posted:You can buy new FiSTs for another 1.5 where I live, or a FoST for 2-3 and that's just going off advertised prices. That's a hilariously bad buy if those are even close to actual transaction prices. 15k CAD = $11700. You can buy new FiSTs for $13k and change?
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Jun 11, 2016 15:30
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Ehud posted:The resale value on these cars is hilariously bad. I can't imagine how mad I would be if I bought one new. Yeah I think I'll pick up a 124 Abarth in a few years when it's half the price.
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Jun 11, 2016 16:44
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Lets all get in line to buy an Italian Chrysler Miata for full retail, its an investment
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Jun 11, 2016 17:45
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PaintVagrant posted:Lets all get in line to buy an Italian Chrysler Miata for full retail, its an investment At least it might not poo poo its entire cooling system every 50k.
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Jun 11, 2016 17:52
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fyodor posted:At least it might not poo poo its entire cooling system every 50k. Might!
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Jun 11, 2016 18:06
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PaintVagrant posted:Lets all get in line to buy an Italian Chrysler Miata for full retail, its an investment not enough room in the trunk for all my beanie babies
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Jun 11, 2016 18:08
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RIP Paul Walker posted:Focus has it standard, Fiesta doesn't have it as an option on any trim level Incorrect, rear view camera and backup sensors are standard on Titanium trim Fiestas. For whatever reason they decided not to offer it on STs, nor is retrofitting a trivial matter like it should be.
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Jun 11, 2016 18:35
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wolrah posted:Incorrect, rear view camera and backup sensors are standard on Titanium trim Fiestas. For whatever reason they decided not to offer it on STs, nor is retrofitting a trivial matter like it should be. Well gently caress me sideways with a pogo stick... That's both dumb as gently caress and confusing.
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Jun 11, 2016 19:03
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I love when you can tell a car company retrofitted a backup camera to an existing model and they made no attempt to integrate it cleanly into the body.
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Jun 11, 2016 19:05
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Aren't backup cameras going to be required soon? Gotta keep those fat retards from running over their stupid spawns. The R has a back up camera and it's just one more thing that will eventually break, and when it does, it won't get fixed. Got the summers back on and took it out for a couple hours. After taking a few stupid manhole covers that I didn't see until too late, I should have shaken anything loose that was going to come loose.
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Jun 11, 2016 21:00
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With how terrible rear visibility is getting in cars backup cameras should be required. gently caress, I want cameras to show me what's behind the god damned A pillars in the FiST.
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Jun 12, 2016 03:35
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Yes. Changes in rollover safety regulations have made rear visibility in short supply and thus mandated back-up cameras to solve this.
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Jun 12, 2016 04:23
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oxbrain posted:With how terrible rear visibility is getting in cars backup cameras should be required. gently caress, I want cameras to show me what's behind the god damned A pillars in the FiST. Those overhead view cameras are pretty awesome.
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Jun 12, 2016 04:25
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I just got back from a drive in the E46... Holy gently caress is visibility and turning radius excellent compared to the Focus.
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Jun 12, 2016 05:10
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Same thing happens every time I drive the 14 Mazda 3. I get back in the E46 and marvel at the increased visibility.
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Jun 12, 2016 23:31
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Well you say E46 like it's not the platonic ideal of a car.
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Jun 12, 2016 23:44
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No visibility issues on the Golf. The turning radius is hideous compared to the 11 Golf though. I think they went too far on the lock to lock ratio. It's only like 2 turns on the R. Heh just looked it up. It's 2.1. Also, why in this day and age does a high performance car still have a cast iron block.
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Jun 13, 2016 01:04
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Jun 13, 2016 01:37
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veedubfreak posted:No visibility issues on the Golf. The turning radius is hideous compared to the 11 Golf though. I think they went too far on the lock to lock ratio. It's only like 2 turns on the R. The R still has an iron block?
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Jun 13, 2016 01:52
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fknlo posted:The R still has an iron block? Yup, the VW 2.0T is an iron block with aluminum heads.
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Jun 13, 2016 02:03
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wolrah posted:Yup, the VW 2.0T is an iron block with aluminum heads. Oh Volkswagen  I guess I shouldn't really be surprised, but I kind of am.
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Jun 13, 2016 03:02
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fyodor posted:Well you say E46 like it's not the platonic ideal of a car. I feel like an E30 owner when I think about how superior the E46 is to all other cars ever.
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Jun 13, 2016 03:19
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fknlo posted:Oh Volkswagen What budget built turbo cars are running all aluminum blocks from the factory...? I mean, there are people making over 500whp on these things without opening the motor. BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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Jun 13, 2016 03:33
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for ~$7k you can do a bolt on kit for a gti and make 494hp to the wheels on 93. 522 on 100 octane.
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Jun 13, 2016 04:58
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Fuckin thing has no traction with 300whp, I can't imagine another 200 ontop. 
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Jun 13, 2016 05:03
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BlackMK4 posted:What budget built turbo cars are running all aluminum blocks from the factory...? The new Cruze engine is all aluminum. It's half the cost of a golf R. Not a performance car or hot hatch, however.
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Jun 13, 2016 13:11
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BlackMK4 posted:What budget built turbo cars are running all aluminum blocks from the factory...? I'd just assumed that most brands had switched over to aluminum blocks by now for the weight savings for mpg restrictions.
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Jun 13, 2016 13:24
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Larrymer posted:The new Cruze engine is all aluminum. It's half the cost of a golf R. Not a performance car or hot hatch, however. That's weird because I could swear Chevy says aluminum is commie Ford devil metal.
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Jun 13, 2016 13:27
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1.4 turbo is iron block http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/gm-engines/luv/#tab-2 Edit: looks like 2016+ is aluminum block.
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BlackMK4 posted:What budget built turbo cars are running all aluminum blocks from the factory...? The EcoBoost 20 and 23 are all-aluminum.
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