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Currently only have a GPU with HDMI/VGA (or is it DVI? Doesn't matter anyway) but not DisplayPort. Looking at monitors currently, one variant of the ones I'm looking at only has DisplayPort, would I be able to use some sort of HDMI adapter in this case and would this limit my maximum refresh rate?
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sout posted:Currently only have a GPU with HDMI/VGA (or is it DVI? Doesn't matter anyway) but not DisplayPort. If it's a 1440p or higher monitor, none of the DisplayPort to DVI/HDMI adapters do dual-link, so you'd be limited to 1200p.
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Jun 11, 2016 12:44
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BIG HEADLINE posted:If it's a 1440p or higher monitor, none of the DisplayPort to DVI/HDMI adapters do dual-link, so you'd be limited to 1200p. Cheers. Does 1440p/144Hz work over HDMI? (I'll get a new card soon anyway as I don't expect to be able to play games at that resolution and framerate with my current hardware)
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Jun 11, 2016 13:06
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sout posted:Cheers. Does 1440p/144Hz work over HDMI? (I'll get a new card soon anyway as I don't expect to be able to play games at that resolution and framerate with my current hardware) It depends on the HDMI version. 1.3 will do 2560x1600, 1.4 will do 4K at reduced refresh rates. I'm not even mentioning 2.0 because based on what you're saying, you don't have it. Also, to the best of my knowledge, HDMI's limited to 120Hz.
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Jun 11, 2016 13:20
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Talking of box art, I was remembering my first graphics card. The Asus 9800 GT ULTIMATE.   This thing blew other 9800 GT's out of the loving water! (It was a rebranded 9800 GTX, while other normal 9800 GT's were rebranded 8800 GT's.)  It would be like rebranding a 980 Ti as a 980, then putting it against normal 980's
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Jun 11, 2016 13:45
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Is it common knowledge that GP102 will not use HBM2?
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Jun 11, 2016 13:48
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Ak Gara posted:Talking of box art, I was remembering my first graphics card. This takes me back, this thing was my first card as well
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Jun 11, 2016 13:49
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Thanks for making me feel old. My first one was a Voodoo2.
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Jun 11, 2016 13:58
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This was one of my first cards (My first being a TI4200 128MB): It even had the box image on the cooler itself.  This card is still running in a computer I gave to my nephews, over 10 years since I bought the thing Solvency fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 14:00
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Josh Lyman posted:Is it common knowledge that GP102 will not use HBM2? There's no such thing as common knowledge where un-released GPUs are concerned. No-one knows and you'll only get rumours until Nvidia is ready to announce something. It's a rumour that GP102 will use GDDR5X. To me that makes sense when you look at the probable performance of the GPU. 700+ GB/s is just not needed on a PCI-E GPU of that capability and HBM is very expensive.
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Jun 11, 2016 14:03
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I just looked at my card and realised I actually DO have DisplayPort. That was dumb. Cool cool cool.
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Jun 11, 2016 14:15
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the panacea posted:Thanks for making me feel old. My first one was a Voodoo2. It could be worse. Technically my first video card gave me 80 columns of text and lowercase. Edit: IIRC my first PC video card was a Matrox Millenium (2MB, probably) dbcooper fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 14:15
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Riflen posted:There's no such thing as common knowledge where un-released GPUs are concerned. No-one knows and you'll only get rumours until Nvidia is ready to announce something. It's a rumour that GP102 will use GDDR5X. To me that makes sense when you look at the probable performance of the GPU. 700+ GB/s is just not needed on a PCI-E GPU of that capability and HBM is very expensive. Does anyone have a link to a quick primer on video card RAM is for and how it's used? Specifically I'm struggling to contextualise 'how far does GB/s make a difference? When is this a bottleneck compared to processing power?'
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Jun 11, 2016 14:17
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Alchenar posted:Does anyone have a link to a quick primer on video card RAM is for and how it's used? Specifically I'm struggling to contextualise 'how far does GB/s make a difference? When is this a bottleneck compared to processing power?' It's where textures and framebuffers are stored for sure and those can take up quite a bit of space (hence sizes being important), and that can be bottlenecked shuffling textures in/out of VRAM to main RAM. I don't know if the rendering pipelines use the VRAM as a cache, somebody more knowledgeable can help.
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Jun 11, 2016 14:33
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Solvency posted:This was one of my first cards (My first being a TI4200 128MB): Linx posted:This takes me back, this thing was my first card as well I can't believe I still have the url for the heatsink I added. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/thermalright-t-rad2-vga-cooler-ati-nvidia-hs-057-tr.html Combined with some great fans, it overclocked something stupid like 25% over the already 25%-faster-than-normal-9800 GT's. While a normal 9800 GT was running 600 Mhz, this was running at 900!  I wonder if I found some wires, if it'll still work  [edit] my pc from before cable management was invented. That poor bottom fan. Ak Gara fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 14:39
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Alchenar posted:Does anyone have a link to a quick primer on video card RAM is for and how it's used? Specifically I'm struggling to contextualise 'how far does GB/s make a difference? When is this a bottleneck compared to processing power?' The VRAM holds all the data the GPU needs to work on. All the data sets from the game will either be loaded straight into VRAM, or streamed from storage, through system RAM over PCI-E to the GPU VRAM as it's needed. This happens according to the game's algorithms that determine when assets are required to be loaded. In almost all situations when playing games, today's GPUs are shader limited. HBM is forward-looking technology that we will need soon. Look at R9 Fury X with HBM. 500+ GB/s bandwidth but still frequently beaten by GPUs with standard GDDR5 and half the memory bandwidth. Memory bandwidth becomes more important the higher the rendering resolution and the more bandwidth-intensive settings are used, such as MSAA. But today's GPUs run out of steam before it's typically a problem. Modern GPU designs also are using clever data compression algorithms to make it possible to send the same amount of data, but use less bandwidth doing so. This is an example of a finished frame, the frame with colour compressed on Nvidia Maxwell GPUs and then with colour compressed on the new Pascal GPUs.  These improvements are happening alongside continued improvements to GDDR5 bandwidth, (as with GDDR5X) so we have been increasing effective bandwidth as we go. Problem is that GDDR5 only scales so far with regards to power usage and will soon begin to consume an alarming amount of power as speed is increased. This is why we need new tech like HBM, which offers massive bandwidth and lower power usage.
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Jun 11, 2016 15:02
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My first aftermarket video card was a GeForce2 MX that I bought in college from eVGA. It had bad memory, you'd get purple corruption when it was doing 3D rendering. eVGA refused to RMA it, and I avoided them for the next ~15 years because of it. Around that time (~2000) eVGA had an absolutely terrible reputation, it's insane how far they've come. Currently typing this on a computer running a 680 Classified and no qualms about choosing them for my 1080.
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Jun 11, 2016 15:07
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Laslow posted:And to comment about the 970 being overkill for 1080p; I plugged mine in, loaded up GTAV, cranked up all the sliders, enabled everything and was immediately disappointed. Still way better than my old 580, but people on the internet set my expectations a little too high. It'll hold me over til GP100/102 easily though; zero chance for disappointment there if I still have my 1920x1200 monitor. Speaking anecdotally GTAV was near perfect performance on release and then slowly got worse with each subsequent patch; they broke something with the texture streaming. There's a lot of complaints about it on the Rockstar website.
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Jun 11, 2016 15:09
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Ak Gara posted:I can't believe I still have the url for the heatsink I added. Please clean your computer.
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Jun 11, 2016 15:33
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Ak Gara posted:I can't believe I still have the url for the heatsink I added. this is what every PC looked like when I was 14 and all of my friends' cases had windows through which you could only see wires
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Jun 11, 2016 15:34
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The only thing 'founding' about the Founder's Edition is that it's set the ~foundation~ for all future nVidia pricing. When the 11xx rolls around we're all gonna be nostalgic for *these* prices. *Funder's Edition. Serious though, I'm hoping this is just a 290 launch but with aftermarket coolers and the prices settle down eventually.
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Jun 11, 2016 15:41
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Riflen posted:The VRAM holds all the data the GPU needs to work on. All the data sets from the game will either be loaded straight into VRAM, or streamed from storage, through system RAM over PCI-E to the GPU VRAM as it's needed. This happens according to the game's algorithms that determine when assets are required to be loaded. Thanks!
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Jun 11, 2016 15:52
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Wait, my first card was actually older than some folks'? My first one was an evga 8800gt sc. I eventually bought my friend's 9800gt, flashed my 8800gt to a 9800gt, ran an unofficial patch to the system to enable sli, and ran them together. I also have a discrete version of what was in my first computer, a geforce 4 440 mx, iirc. I forget how that happened, my first computer had integrated graphics so it's not from that...
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Jun 11, 2016 16:14
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My first card was a voodoo 3 3000 I think. Going from like maybe 30 fps in counter-strike to 100+ was nice.
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Jun 11, 2016 16:17
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First 3d card was from the day when card names were cool: Orchid Righteous, Voodoo1.
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Jun 11, 2016 16:28
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i feel old
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Jun 11, 2016 16:28
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Riva 128zx (well, first 3d card anyways). I remember running beta drivers for awhile so I could get OpenGL support (only supported D3D out of the box). I also remember running Glide to Direct 3D wrappers so I could run those Voodoo only 3d games on it. That was also before all this crazy box art was a thing. I think it came in a plain white box. I still remember the day when I installed the first beta driver that had OpenGL support and fired up Quake 2 and chose the OpenGL render instead of software. Mind blown. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 16:31
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What's the deal with Amazon getting their 1070 stock late as gently caress? I guess Nvidia sold Newegg some kind of temporary exclusive online retailer agreement or something?
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Jun 11, 2016 16:45
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Taima posted:What's the deal with Amazon getting their 1070 stock late as gently caress? I guess Nvidia sold Newegg some kind of temporary exclusive online retailer agreement or something? i was confused about that too. still don't think i've seen any cards on amazon other than that lone zotac.
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Jun 11, 2016 18:17
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Still no word on when the other aftermarket cards will be available for sale?
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Jun 11, 2016 18:17
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Custom RX480s already showing up. I guess a good sign for a high volume 6/29 release? 
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Jun 11, 2016 18:58
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FaustianQ posted:Custom RX480s already showing up. I guess a good sign for a high volume 6/29 release? Here's hoping. Was a tiny bit worried by the lack of leaks although we all know the 1080 FE shroud leak was NV's doing.
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Jun 11, 2016 19:06
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FaustianQ posted:Custom RX480s already showing up. I guess a good sign for a high volume 6/29 release? Do the designers of that card know it's 2016?
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Jun 11, 2016 19:52
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Who cares what a card looks like?
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Male Man posted:Who cares what a card looks like? Lots of people.
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Jun 11, 2016 19:55
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Linx posted:Do the designers of that card know it's 2016? I like it, Sapphire always make these heavy solid looking cards none of that RGB dragon bullshit.
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Jun 11, 2016 19:56
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Linx posted:Do the designers of that card know it's 2016? I like it, much less tacky than most but without looking like there's something missing. snuff posted:I like it, Sapphire always make these heavy solid looking cards none of that RGB dragon bullshit. Don't tell my Vapor-X 290 that. (I do like the direction their coolers have been going, although not as much as I love the Fury X's look). xthetenth fucked around with this message at 20:04 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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Jun 11, 2016 19:59
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snuff posted:I like it, Sapphire always make these heavy solid looking cards none of that RGB dragon bullshit. My significant other spotted this card when I had it out of my PC to clean the blower out on it, and it's been a running joke about how I must have bought the card because of the girl on it ever since.
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Jun 11, 2016 20:08
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Linx posted:Do the designers of that card know it's 2016? I don't get it, what's wrong with it? It looks alright, it's not covered in XTREME ~GAM3R~ poo poo. Naffer posted:My significant other spotted this card when I had it out of my PC to clean the blower out on it, and it's been a running joke about how I must have bought the card because of the girl on it ever since. The ultimate "card with a woman on it" has to be the ASUS 4870X2, which is basically completely covered in the image of a woman. I remember that card coming up before from similar conversations, never had one myself. I would say you couldn't get away with marketing like that now, but that would be a horrible lie, you absolutely could. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Jun 11, 2016 |
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HalloKitty posted:I don't get it, what's wrong with it? It looks alright, it's not covered in XTREME ~GAM3R~ poo poo. it looks insanely cheap and lovely. like an off-brand aluminum hard drive enclosure.
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