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Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

The Batman and Robin movie Mr. Freeze was better than the New 52 one.

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bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

FilthyImp posted:

I think I lost it after the episode with MGH superroids let someone pick up an ATM and then get crushed/break his arm when they wore off.

Killed the not quite fantastic feel that I thought they were going for.

Now I saw a preview with Fish and poo poo looks like Adam West Batman levels of kitch.

The second episode had the balloon man, a guy who attached people to balloons and they die due to that.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

bobkatt013 posted:

The second episode had the balloon man, a guy who attached people to balloons and they die due to that.
I mean, that I can buy. I've watched UP.

God you're right. It was Adam West Gotham they were doing all along!

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Detective No. 27 posted:

If you checked out after a few episodes, give season 2 a shot. The show really found its footing once they figured out what to do with Barbara.

People hate her but I think she's the best part of the show. Especially the tail end of season 2 when she is just balls-out loving crazy.

pubic works project
Jan 28, 2005

No Decepticon in history, and I say this with great surety, has been treated worse or more unfairly.

Codependent Poster posted:

The Batman and Robin movie Mr. Freeze was better than the New 52 one.

Everybody...! CHILL!!!

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

SeannieDarko posted:

Everybody...! CHILL!!!

That was loving amazing and if you think otherwise may God have mercy on your soul.


Arnold was so good in that flick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRH-Ywpz1_I

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

FilthyImp posted:

I mean, that I can buy. I've watched UP.

God you're right. It was Adam West Gotham they were doing all along!

It had tons issues in the with it being series and campy. When they decided to just go batshit with it, it got better

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


The season 2 finale of Gotham had a couple of scenes of Clayface pretending to be Gordon and he was running around with this rictus grin and croaking voice that was not quite right. It was pretty goofy, especially when Barbara punches him and his whole face gets smushed.

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST
What are the great non-Heart of Ice Mr. Freeze stories? His appearance in Batman Beyond?

Dacap
Jul 8, 2008

I've been involved in a number of cults, both as a leader and a follower.

You have more fun as a follower. But you make more money as a leader.



Batman: Snow is great

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
The DTV Batman: Sub Zero is pretty good.

I unironically really enjoy the Arnold performance as well. It's camp af but he does manage to make him sympathetic and likable.

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.


Too late. I actually really loved the conceit of Night of the Owls, and considering my N52 Batman readthrough consists of me reading the full runs on Batman/& Robin/Batgirl/Nightwing/Detective Comics anyways, the "extra" tie-ins consisted of a couple of issues of RHATO, Birds of Prey (which I liked), and Catwoman (which I also liked). It was mostly the RHATO tie-in issues I had a problem with because, just, man, that comic isn't good at all.

I just really loved Night of the Owls in general - I loved the conceit of a citywide threat with a bunch of different problems happening simultaneously - and that final Marsh reveal was loving incredible - but I really liked how all the tie-ins showed smaller battles all leading into a Gotham-wide showdown between Batman and the final Talon.

Even the RHATO issues that tied in to Night of the Owls felt kinda fun in a bad way, just to see how deeply DC hosed up the characterization of New 52 Starfire or its totally jarring tone clashes (like how the comic contorted itself around justifying Jason and Roy and Starfire murdering the poo poo out of people as something "cool" and "awesome" over loving sociopathic). Also there was a genuinely nice moment Jason shared with Tim Drake that actually humanized him for once.

Plus, I got to see Roy Harper's totally awesome...quips? I guess?





This might, no joke, be the single worst line of "flirty" dialog I've ever read.

But yeah, The Court of Owls/Night of the Owls were two back-to-back great arcs and I really enjoyed most-to-all of the tie-ins for the latter.

quote:

For Zero Year, just do Action Comics and just cause it kicks off a great run. Green Arrow is good too, but it's smack in the middle of Lemire's story.

I've already read Zero Year and all of its tie-ins as well. I really, really loved Zero Year, but its tie-ins were, yeah...ranged wildly in quality. I did like the idea of them - showing how, the same way Night of the Owls does, this city-wide threat affects all of its citizens in different ways, and the really good tie-ins (Nightwing, Batgirl, Batwoman, Catwoman, Birds of Prey, Detective Comics) certainly made up for the bad ones (Flash, Batwing, I could see where they were going with Green Lantern Corps but I don't think it really worked). I actually really disliked Green Arrow and I felt like Action Comics felt a bit forced in trying to tie-in to Zero Year. RHATO for Zero Year actually kinda worked even though it basically stars a Jason Todd that never actually existed or ever would exist beyond that single issue.

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Toxxupation posted:

me reading the full runs on... Batgirl/Nightwing/Detective Comics

Why? There are no really great runs on Detective. No reason to not just skip to Burnside Batgirl and Grayson. Don't burn out being a completionist.
Batwoman (including Rucka's Pre-Flashpoint Detective Comics, up till Andreyko) Genevieve Valentine's Catwoman, Gotham By Midnight and Gotham Academy are good comics if you're just doing N52 Batman related stuff.

e: I guess if you're having fun reading everything, go with god.

Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Jun 10, 2016

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition

Travis343 posted:

It's bad because it reduces a nuanced character to Another Crazy Guy Who Kills People, which is the last thing Batman's rogues gallery needed. It's bad because it's yet another example of New 52 trying to give everything an 'edge' or a 'twist' - not because they're better or creative or even interesting - but just because they can. I mentioned One-Face as an example - it's the same thing as Joker slicing his face off, Harley blowing up kids with video games, Mad Hatter mind-controlling people into drowning themselves, ad infinitum. It's artless, thoughtless, completely unnecessary tweaking and I'm still not sure what the point of any of it was, except villains with high body counts are apparently more threatening than interesting, multi-layered villains. They're all becoming Crazy Guys Who Kill People, just some of them use cold guns and some of them use knives and playing cards and Alice in Wonderland paraphernalia. It's dumb and lovely writing.

I recently read the old Elseworlds trilogy where Batman becomes a vampire, starting with Red Rain, and it's weird that even in the second volume, where the Joker leads a band of vampires with the express intention to turn most of the Gotham underworld, the body count is still significantly lower than certain arcs in the New 52.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

SonicRulez posted:

What are the great non-Heart of Ice Mr. Freeze stories? His appearance in Batman Beyond?

Believe it or not, all of his appearances in the Arkham video games are really good. The DLC ones for Origins and Knight are especially good and the latter actually gives his and Nora's story an appropriately bittersweet end.

DoctorDelaware
Mar 24, 2013
I don't like that they changed Red Max to Red Baron in Wacky Raceland. They didn't change any of the other names, why his?

(I'm also not wild about making him a Nazi; seems a little obvious. But then, I knew what I was getting into.)

NieR Occomata
Jan 18, 2009

Glory to Mankind.

I finished Death of the Family. Good story, with a powerful ending (and I like that it put to bed the "why doesn't Batman just kill the Joker" question in a way that makes sense over "My moral code" and/or "Slippery slope"), but man, everything outside of the Snyder-penned story was a loving mess. The RHATO tie-ins were pretty bad, Teen Titans was much worse (although the section where it was Red Hood and Red Robin trying to fight their way out of the Joker trap was actually pretty neat), Catwoman was...really bad, Suicide Squad was atrocious, and Batgirl's tie-ins suffer due to the fact that the chronology of her story makes no goddamn sense whatsoever. Which, well, sucks when her tie-ins are probably the ones most significantly tied to the DotF event as written.

But yeah, this is probably the first event I've read where a vast majority of the tie-ins were bad or make the story nonsensical and cluttered. The idea of it though forgives a lot of imperfect execution.

Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich
https://twitter.com/JoeMadx/status/741104875715448832

Teenage Fansub
Jan 28, 2006

Wordless pages from Nightwing Rebirth
http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/nightwing-rebirth-1-dc-comics-2016
and #1
http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/nightwing-1-dc-comics-2016
Looking good.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

That looks like poo poo. You probably love it.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

I usually love Joe Mad's stuff but that looks really bad.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

At least he finished it instead of doodling a playstation at the bottom,

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Saw that picture on Tumblr, that's actually what prompted me to post how incredibly tired I am of Glowing Eyes Angry Face Superman

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST

Gaz-L posted:

Believe it or not, all of his appearances in the Arkham video games are really good. The DLC ones for Origins and Knight are especially good and the latter actually gives his and Nora's story an appropriately bittersweet end.

The only time I thought the writing around him was weak was when they wanted to justify his boss battle in City. There really is no reason he should've fought Batman at that point. Even for an irrational man with mental problems.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

SonicRulez posted:

The only time I thought the writing around him was weak was when they wanted to justify his boss battle in City. There really is no reason he should've fought Batman at that point. Even for an irrational man with mental problems.

Was that before or after Batman was pouring out his suit's coolant in front of him? Because that might have made a difference.

Those games are so much Goddamn fun but christ that version of Batman is a pouty dickhole

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Travis343 posted:

Was that before or after Batman was pouring out his suit's coolant in front of him? Because that might have made a difference.

Those games are so much Goddamn fun but christ that version of Batman is a pouty dickhole

After. But Freeze counters with another stupid move by pouring out one vial of the cure then asking Batman to help him save Nora, as though taunting him with death is a way to get on his good side.

Agreed that Arkham Bats is a prick though.

TwoPair fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Jun 11, 2016

SonicRulez
Aug 6, 2013

GOTTA GO FIST

Travis343 posted:

Was that before or after Batman was pouring out his suit's coolant in front of him? Because that might have made a difference.

Those games are so much Goddamn fun but christ that version of Batman is a pouty dickhole

Arkham Bats is definitely a brutal rear end in a top hat, but I always try and keep in mind that he wasn't really that way in Asylum. Not as much as it would get played up in City and Knight. I think we're meant to believe it's related to him dying in City and being Joker'd in Knight.

Thing is, Bats shows up for the cure and Freeze is locking it in a safe. Then he says "Hey, gently caress off and save Nora first." Batman should have said "Okay fine, but I'll be better at that if you cure me first." Instead he got all "gently caress you" and then things got punchy. Victor started it.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Travis343 posted:

Saw that picture on Tumblr, that's actually what prompted me to post how incredibly tired I am of Glowing Eyes Angry Face Superman

I am too.

Glowing-eye superman is so loving tired at this point. It was a neat visual except it got overused and now Superman might as well just have glowing eyes with how often people go back to it.

Codependent Poster
Oct 20, 2003

Superman is just trying to be like a real hero: Cyclops

JoshTheStampede
Sep 8, 2004

come at me bro
That cover looks pretty cool to me. Not sure what everyone hates about it.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



SynthOrange posted:

At least he finished it instead of doodling a playstation at the bottom,

Final Fantasy XV isn't out until the fall.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 2 hours!
How was All-Star Section 8?

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Endless Mike posted:

Final Fantasy XV isn't out until the fall.

What's the origin of the "Joe Mad too busy playing Final Fantasy to actually work" meme, anyway?

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Wheat Loaf posted:

What's the origin of the "Joe Mad too busy playing Final Fantasy to actually work" meme, anyway?

It was something that happened with... Final Fantasy 7 I think?

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Battle Chasers, the creator-owned fantasy comic he launched after he left Uncanny X-Men. It was supposed to be part of a second Image-style team up of hot new artists at the time, that's when you had J Scott Campbell's Danger Girl and Humberto Ramos' Crimson launching alongside it, in the late 90s. There were something like two issues before Battle Chasers started being late. Joe Mad dragged this out for years while insisting it was still coming out. I always thought it was the PS2 in general that tripped him up.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
There was a multi page Wizard article on Jim where half the pictures if him showcase him playing FF7 instead of drawing.

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
I remember that article. His office workspace looked like an anime/games nerd's shelf porn.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Wanderer posted:

I remember that article. His office workspace looked like an anime/games nerd's shelf porn.

Looking at the he draws women, does it shock you that he'd be into anime that much?

Wanderer
Nov 5, 2006

our every move is the new tradition
It was reasonably obvious he was into anime, but I remember the article provided a remarkably thorough walking tour of his office, which was full of the kind of stuff that made you think the rest of the house outside that office was either completely unfinished or belonged to his parents. Dude had a wall full of official anime releases back when DVDs were more expensive than a crack habit.

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Ever seen Mark Waid's studio? He has a spinner rack holding every comic he's ever written and a replica of the Batman '66 phone under a glass dome, among other things. I think he did it for the Robot6 shelf porn blog on CBR.

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