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KPC_Mammon
Jan 23, 2004

Ready for the fashy circle jerk

SlyFrog posted:

Warhammer Quest is a false nostalgia game. I bought it years ago (along with its expansions) as a grail game. It has really boring mechanics and gameplay.

When I found out one of my best friends also grew up playing Warhammer Quest we had to get some games in (I still had a copy in the garage).

It turned out to be garbage. We got to the corridor with a bridge and kept drawing event cards before we could finish the previous encounter. After about 2-3 hours of killing monsters without any risk we decided to go back to town (the travel chart wasn't remotely fun, btw), level up a few times, and never play that trash again.

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radlum
May 13, 2013
I'm introducing my friends to Descent today; since I've played only once and they haven't played anything similar, I'll be the Overlord. Any suggestions on making the game easier/more understandable?

KPC_Mammon
Jan 23, 2004

Ready for the fashy circle jerk
Is Hero Quest a good game? My only memories of actually playing it involved my dad playing the overlord and kicking my rear end every time we tried the first level. I was 9, and not very good at the game.

It was the american version, if that makes a difference.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

StashAugustine posted:

Teaching Dominion last night

"So you said you played this once before?"
"Yeah with about eight people"

It might have been 6 (since that's supposed to be the cap anyway, although they could have house ruled it) and just felt like 8

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Probably. I can barely stand Dominion at 4, going above that would probably end in a murder-suicide.

Do the EmDo expansions increase player count? I like how that game scales a lot better.

e: also is the expansion that just came out, not Escalation, good?

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

StashAugustine posted:

Probably. I can barely stand Dominion at 4, going above that would probably end in a murder-suicide.

Do the EmDo expansions increase player count? I like how that game scales a lot better.

e: also is the expansion that just came out, not Escalation, good?

Escalation has cards for a 5th person

Exotica is good. New planet/tech/resource type and asteroids are pretty interesting.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
So this is a thing

Barbarossa: Deck Building Game - Historical Photo Edition LE

http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/228570

Isn't it supposedly a good deck builder? A version with historical WW2 art instead of anime porn is intriguing.

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

I'd prefer to not give my money to these people no matter what.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Good point

Ohthehugemanatee
Oct 18, 2005

radlum posted:

I'm introducing my friends to Descent today; since I've played only once and they haven't played anything similar, I'll be the Overlord. Any suggestions on making the game easier/more understandable?

Let them win while providing a steady challenge. Be smart if they're crushing you, be dumb if they're dumb.

I'm all seriousness it isn't hard for an overlord to absolutely crush the heroes in either edition and you have the advantage of secret information in your cards that can wildly swing the difficulty level. I've had the most fun in Descent when it was treated as if it were D&D.

KPC_Mammon posted:

Is Hero Quest a good game? My only memories of actually playing it involved my dad playing the overlord and kicking my rear end every time we tried the first level. I was 9, and not very good at the game.

It was the american version, if that makes a difference.

Holy poo poo no. It was straight up terrible. Roll to move, terrible, slow combat and lovely mechanics like secret doors with little to no clues that you needed to search for them.

Beautiful miniatures and dungeon furniture though.

Big Ol Marsh Pussy
Jan 7, 2007

StashAugustine posted:

Probably. I can barely stand Dominion at 4, going above that would probably end in a murder-suicide.

Do the EmDo expansions increase player count? I like how that game scales a lot better.

e: also is the expansion that just came out, not Escalation, good?

I've always thought 3 player eminent domain was super awkward, both the one pile variant and the two pile variant feel way too short when compared to two or four player games. Maybe I'm just weird though

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




KPC_Mammon posted:

Is Hero Quest a good game? My only memories of actually playing it involved my dad playing the overlord and kicking my rear end every time we tried the first level. I was 9, and not very good at the game.

It was the american version, if that makes a difference.

It was terrible, and I loved DMing for my birthday parties before the annual game of AH's civ.

But yeah pretty bad game honestly, just better than a lot of the other options at the time (Dungeon!, anyone?).

malkav11
Aug 7, 2009

KPC_Mammon posted:

Is Hero Quest a good game? My only memories of actually playing it involved my dad playing the overlord and kicking my rear end every time we tried the first level. I was 9, and not very good at the game.

It was the american version, if that makes a difference.

For kids, back in the late 80s/early 90s? Hell yes, it was magic. But the pickings were pretty slim back then. There have been far better games introduced since then.

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

I see a lot of people who really loving love HeroQuest and will insist it totally holds up today. A lot of them also recommend Dungeon as a great family game. It's insane.

e: gently caress, HeroQuest, not HeroScape

Scyther fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jun 11, 2016

cenotaph
Mar 2, 2013



Scyther posted:

I see a lot of people who really loving love HeroScape and will insist it totally holds up today. A lot of them also recommend Dungeon as a great family game. It's insane.
Heroscape isn't heroquest and is not terrible for babby's first minis game.

Dr. VooDoo
May 4, 2006


So speaking of Warhammer Quest and Decent what is the best dungeon crawling board game out there?

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Descent with the app for traditional dungeon crawling or Arcadia Quest if you want more pick up and play/pvp elements. Two of my group's favorites, which is made up of former DnD lovers. Star Wars Imperial Assault is also great, for something a little different, plus it has a great skirmish mode and the license pulls in most people.

dropkickpikachu
Dec 20, 2003

Ash: You sell rocks?
Flint: Pewter City souveneirs, you want to buy some?

radlum posted:

I'm introducing my friends to Descent today; since I've played only once and they haven't played anything similar, I'll be the Overlord. Any suggestions on making the game easier/more understandable?

Honestly my advice would be to download the Road to Legend app and forget about being the Overlord. Instead, play with them so you can demonstrate good play and actively help them win. I can't recommend the app enough.

Scyther
Dec 29, 2010

cenotaph posted:

Heroscape isn't heroquest and is not terrible for babby's first minis game.

Whoops, I totally meant HeroQuest. Yeah, HeroScape is okay.

Dr. Video Games 0069
Jan 1, 2006

nice dolphin, nigga

KPC_Mammon posted:

Is Hero Quest a good game? My only memories of actually playing it involved my dad playing the overlord and kicking my rear end every time we tried the first level. I was 9, and not very good at the game.

It was the american version, if that makes a difference.

It is not good, but it was fun at the time. Most of the kickstarter dungeon crawlers are trying to emulate Hero Quest, forgetting not only that the mechanics suck but also that the coolest thing about it was the tiny furniture.

malkav11
Aug 7, 2009

Dr. VooDoo posted:

So speaking of Warhammer Quest and Decent what is the best dungeon crawling board game out there?

Depends on what exactly you're looking for, but for my money Mage Knight is the single best realization of the powerful-adventurers-kill-monsters-and-loot-poo poo gameplay that's what "dungeon crawl" means to me. By a fair margin.

Just don't let anyone tell you Dungeonquest is either a dungeon crawl or good.

Indolent Bastard
Oct 26, 2007

I WON THIS AMAZING AVATAR! I'M A WINNER! WOOOOO!
Heroquest is great, this is proof.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx8sl2uC46A

its totally nostalgia

Beffer
Sep 25, 2007

dropkickpikachu posted:

Honestly my advice would be to download the Road to Legend app and forget about being the Overlord. Instead, play with them so you can demonstrate good play and actively help them win. I can't recommend the app enough.

Seconding this advice. Unless you really want to play competitive and crush your friends, use the app. It's a built in DM has difficulty levels for beginners and a tutorial. And it's free.

Durendal
Jan 25, 2008

Who made you God to say
"I'll take your sheep from you?"



Well I have my next few Friday's tied up.



:shepface:

al-azad
May 28, 2009



Teaching Food Chain Magnate was pretty funny. The first couple of rounds you're not doing poo poo so everyone has this glazed look in their eyes as we go "restructure... okay nine to five... dinner time but no one is hungry... marketing but nobody is marketing... cleanup and start over!" One guy snaps off a burger early so he gets the freezer but also a burger cook he can't actually afford in the same turn he gets the milestone.

Then, within about 5 turns, people start dropping marketing, I start adding houses to the board with the developer, then the room lights up as the light bulbs above everyone's heads simultaneous *ding*. An interesting game I don't think I'll ever be able to break out onto the table without scheduling a month ahead of time.


Indolent Bastard posted:

Heroquest is great, this is proof.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx8sl2uC46A

its totally nostalgia

This guy knows what's up but Space Crusade is better.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Bottom Liner posted:

So this is a thing

Barbarossa: Deck Building Game - Historical Photo Edition LE

http://www.coolstuffinc.com/p/228570

Isn't it supposedly a good deck builder? A version with historical WW2 art instead of anime porn is intriguing.

I didn't like it when I played it

EvilChameleon
Nov 20, 2003

In my infinite money,
the jimmies rustle softly.

Durendal posted:

Well I have my next few Friday's tied up.



:shepface:

That doesn't look like Campaign for North Africa.

The Journey Fraternity
Nov 25, 2003



I found this on the ground!

Durendal posted:

Well I have my next few Friday's tied up.



:shepface:

Jesus, I own that and I haven't even been able to bring myself to read the rules yet, let alone bother setting that behemoth up. Good luck!

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

Durendal posted:

Well I have my next few Friday's tied up.



:shepface:

Which one is this? I am a dummy about 18xx stuff but I know that's what this is based on the rail hex tiles and the poker chips on certs :square:

Durendal
Jan 25, 2008

Who made you God to say
"I'll take your sheep from you?"



Mister Sinewave posted:

Which one is this? I am a dummy about 18xx stuff but I know that's what this is based on the rail hex tiles and the poker chips on certs :square:

18OE. A monster game about railways in Europe and the Orient Express.

al-azad
May 28, 2009



I think 18xx games would be more penetrable if it was like 199x and you're investing in early internet service providers to lay down cable lines connecting cities. How has nobody done a game like that, that poo poo was really cutthroat and led to the formation of a handful of mega corporations that can afford to be aloof because no one can touch them.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

al-azad posted:

I think 18xx games would be more penetrable if it was like 199x and you're investing in early internet service providers to lay down cable lines connecting cities. How has nobody done a game like that, that poo poo was really cutthroat and led to the formation of a handful of mega corporations that can afford to be aloof because no one can touch them.

They already made a game about the telecom companies:

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

al-azad posted:

I think 18xx games would be more penetrable if it was like 199x and you're investing in early internet service providers to lay down cable lines connecting cities. How has nobody done a game like that, that poo poo was really cutthroat and led to the formation of a handful of mega corporations that can afford to be aloof because no one can touch them.

Instead of / in addition to companies with stock you buy into various regulators and politicians and lobbying :razz:

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums

Durendal posted:

18OE. A monster game about railways in Europe and the Orient Express.

This is it. That picture is what pushed me over the edge. One of these days, I'm going to play an 18xx game.

Radioactive Toy
Sep 14, 2005

Nothing has ever happened here, nothing.
I have the option of picking up a brand new Descent 2E for $40. I originally traded it away and then got Imperial Assault which we enjoy much more. The GF and I love coops and are interested in a dungeon crawler. Does the new coop app stuff make this price point worthwhile? I would love some opinions on it.

Harvey Mantaco
Mar 6, 2007

Someone please help me find my keys =(

Radioactive Toy posted:

I have the option of picking up a brand new Descent 2E for $40. I originally traded it away and then got Imperial Assault which we enjoy much more. The GF and I love coops and are interested in a dungeon crawler. Does the new coop app stuff make this price point worthwhile? I would love some opinions on it.

Yes. Buy. Cheap. App good.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Still can't believe I got it for $20 at the B&N summer sale last year.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
This is a particular question but whatever, maybe you guys can help me out. I'm looking for a simple game of set collection that I can somewhat modify to serve as a teaching device for forming words/sentences through phonemes, I want to try a teaching method for a group 18-22 year olds. I'm sure I could think something up (possibly involving cards), but I wonder if there's something out there already.

gutterdaughter
Oct 21, 2010

keep yr head up, problem girl

Azran posted:

This is a particular question but whatever, maybe you guys can help me out. I'm looking for a simple game of set collection that I can somewhat modify to serve as a teaching device for forming words/sentences through phonemes, I want to try a teaching method for a group 18-22 year olds. I'm sure I could think something up (possibly involving cards), but I wonder if there's something out there already.

Do you want a game with an existing verbal component, or one completely lacking words that you can graft your lesson plan over?

My wife is a speech language pathologist for grade school kids, and she's found both Dixit and Rory's Story Cubes to be intensely useful for building her speech lessons around. I imagine the same principles could be easily modified for any age group.

And there's always Set. Particularly if you modify it so that your students have to verbally explain the matching qualities of a given set. (e.g. "These are all purple and round, but have different shading.")

gutterdaughter fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Jun 12, 2016

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Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
No need for an existing verbal component - my original idea was to make double-sided cards with English words: phonemic spelling on the face, ordinary spelling on the back - both instances, separated by syllables. Then players take turns assigning tokens (which display phonemes) over syllables, one at a time: after all tokens are assigned, results are verified and each correct answer gives you one point (while every incorrect answer takes away a point). You can get crafty with some phonemes, and add them to the end of the word to indicate tense or plural form (which allows me to evaluate knowledge of basic phonemic rules).

That said, I had no idea Set or Rory's Story Cubes existed, those will definitely be helpful. Thanks. :)

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