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AriadneThread posted:christ, what happened this time Closest I found of an explanation is Dave's post in this reddit thread I'm finding politics really, really confusing and hard to follow this year, though, and I'm still confused as to what happened
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Dave posted in that thread about ten minutes ago and spells it out pretty well:quote:My problems with twitter are far more extreme. I'm watching a liberal ugliness that has always been there but has been given a voice and action from the medium. I've been trying to figure out exactly what it is but really don't have it boiled down to its essence yet. They certainly loathe leftists, of which I am one. This election has laid that bare.
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Acne Rain posted:Closest I found of an explanation is Dave's post in this reddit thread Normally, "female President" would be the most left/progressive thing you could have, but Hillary's very close to corporate interests, and Bernie's actually saying the word "socialism", so you've got a lot of people who would normally be on the same side fighting against each other, and because these can be emotional issues, it can get ugly. I'm glad Dave and Jen Kirkman don't seem to be mad at each other. She's always getting poo poo from jerky guys on her Twitter feed, and it's so depressing to see, since she's funny and (as far as I can tell) a pretty good person.
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Jun 9, 2016 19:36
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Politics is very confusing this year, because a lot of lines got redrawn. You'll see D&D liberals talk about "whiny youth throwing tantrums about free college" now, for instance; cuz Sanders wants it and he has a lot of youth support. Dave sees this as where things are going, so no wonder he just wants to get outta twitter. Honestly, twitter and politics mix together to form a caustic and unbearable mix that causes anyone near it to become deeply hateful, so I don't think anyone should be caring about it. The small amount of characters mixed with the nature of the medium means everyone's a lovely spokesperson for all causes they champion and you'll always find someone to hate talking about something you don't want to like.
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Jun 9, 2016 19:41
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wafflesnsegways posted:Has he admitted that he's voting for Trump yet? I can't wait to hear Hillary people declare that a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump. adebisi lives fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Jun 9, 2016 |
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Jun 9, 2016 19:44
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adebisi lives posted:I can't wait to hear Hillary people declare that a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump. You haven't read USPol or the Molten Salt Reactor this year have you?
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I don't know, it's like he just discovered people post poo poo on Twitter/social media. I'm guessing he currently has more exposure than ever before in his life, and finds it hard to deal with the repercussions of that.
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Jun 9, 2016 21:02
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Dave Anthony has been bugging me for awhile. The dreary tone is partly why, but content is another. The last few months of modern America podcasts have been inaccurate beyond what I can tolerate even for comedy. His starry eyed history of unions beats anti-unionism for sure, but most unions outside the IWW and a select few were adamantly opposed to socialism long before their absorption into the Democratic Party. How on earth does a story about unions in America miss the Knights of Labor, Gomper, union elitism over skilled vs unskilled, racial divisions, or the original AFL? If you want to talk about some cool popularly forgotten movements: talk about the Wobblies, and not some garbage about mid twentieth history unionism. The hardhat episode was laughable when compared to actual labor histories. As for Twitter, I think he just needs to calm down. Election years make people say stupid things. On Reddit he has reached the point of viewing Clinton supporters as disgusting. I don't care about him liking Bernie or even if he loved Lincoln Chafee, but when you start getting to the point of hatred, you got to step back a little. It sours the podcast.
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I've always found Dave to be obnoxious to some degree. And I say that as someone who loves The Dollop and was a huge fan of WTR. It's always been a case of the positive aspects of the podcasts slightly outweighing the things Dave says that grate on me.
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Marlows posted:Dave Anthony has been bugging me for awhile. The dreary tone is partly why, but content is another. The last few months of modern America podcasts have been inaccurate beyond what I can tolerate even for comedy. His starry eyed history of unions beats anti-unionism for sure, but most unions outside the IWW and a select few were adamantly opposed to socialism long before their absorption into the Democratic Party. How on earth does a story about unions in America miss the Knights of Labor, Gomper, union elitism over skilled vs unskilled, racial divisions, or the original AFL? If you want to talk about some cool popularly forgotten movements: talk about the Wobblies, and not some garbage about mid twentieth history unionism. The hardhat episode was laughable when compared to actual labor histories. Never thought it was about unions, just about how they switched to the GOP at that specific point in time. Seems like does much more in depth stuff when he talks about the origin of something. Just kind of brushed past it on that one.
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Dave's quit twitter more than once. Same with podcasts and other things he'll be back. I'm waiting for him to quit podfest then come back. I unfollowed him a while ago like every other person who tweeted nothing but their political bullshit everyday. I couldn't take literally everyone with the vaguest interest in politics becoming absurdly preachy.
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tnimark posted:I've always found Dave to be obnoxious to some degree. And I say that as someone who loves The Dollop and was a huge fan of WTR. It's always been a case of the positive aspects of the podcasts slightly outweighing the things Dave says that grate on me. Agreed. He and Greg really balanced each other out well. One was a bright funny guy who was sure he was a genius, and the other was a bright funny guy who was sure he was an idiot.
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tnimark posted:I've always found Dave to be obnoxious to some degree. And I say that as someone who loves The Dollop I realize it's probably partly due to the format, but on The Dollop it feels like 99% of the laughs are provided by Gary who's ten times faster on his feet than Dave is.
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Ches Neckbeard posted:I couldn't take literally everyone with the vaguest interest in politics becoming absurdly preachy. Marlows posted:Dave Anthony has been bugging me for awhile. The dreary tone is partly why, but content is another. The last few months of modern America podcasts have been inaccurate beyond what I can tolerate even for comedy. His starry eyed history of unions beats anti-unionism for sure, but most unions outside the IWW and a select few were adamantly opposed to socialism long before their absorption into the Democratic Party. How on earth does a story about unions in America miss the Knights of Labor, Gomper, union elitism over skilled vs unskilled, racial divisions, or the original AFL? If you want to talk about some cool popularly forgotten movements: talk about the Wobblies, and not some garbage about mid twentieth history unionism. The hardhat episode was laughable when compared to actual labor histories.
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Marlows posted:Dave Anthony has been bugging me for awhile. The dreary tone is partly why, but content is another. The last few months of modern America podcasts have been inaccurate beyond what I can tolerate even for comedy. His starry eyed history of unions beats anti-unionism for sure, but most unions outside the IWW and a select few were adamantly opposed to socialism long before their absorption into the Democratic Party. How on earth does a story about unions in America miss the Knights of Labor, Gomper, union elitism over skilled vs unskilled, racial divisions, or the original AFL? If you want to talk about some cool popularly forgotten movements: talk about the Wobblies, and not some garbage about mid twentieth history unionism. The hardhat episode was laughable when compared to actual labor histories. I don't think it was intended to be a general survey of American labor movements.
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Jesus Christ Americans, why do so many of you go rabid when talking about politics online. I've read Daves Reddit rant and still have no idea what made him throw such a fit. Get it together Anthony and get to work on that excellent idea I sent to you.
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BeigeJacket posted:Jesus Christ Americans, why do so many of you go rabid when talking about politics online. The slow painful death of an empire can drive people a little crazy.
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Jun 10, 2016 14:44
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Marlows posted:How on earth does a story about unions in America miss the Knights of Labor, Gomper, union elitism over skilled vs unskilled, racial divisions, or the original AFL? If you want to talk about some cool popularly forgotten movements: talk about the Wobblies, and not some garbage about mid twentieth history unionism. The hardhat episode was laughable when compared to actual labor histories. Because it was about the Hard Hat Riot in the Nixon era, not a general labor history story.
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Jun 10, 2016 17:33
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BeigeJacket posted:Jesus Christ Americans, why do so many of you go rabid when talking about politics online. Because we hate each other and live in different realities due to media.
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Marlows posted:Dave Anthony has been bugging me for awhile. The dreary tone is partly why, but content is another. The last few months of modern America podcasts have been inaccurate beyond what I can tolerate even for comedy. His starry eyed history of unions beats anti-unionism for sure, but most unions outside the IWW and a select few were adamantly opposed to socialism long before their absorption into the Democratic Party. How on earth does a story about unions in America miss the Knights of Labor, Gomper, union elitism over skilled vs unskilled, racial divisions, or the original AFL? If you want to talk about some cool popularly forgotten movements: talk about the Wobblies, and not some garbage about mid twentieth history unionism. The hardhat episode was laughable when compared to actual labor histories. In all honesty, I agree that some cool popularly-forgotten labor history movements would make for some great Dollops, but to echo the already oft-repeated sentiment - that isn't what that episode was about, dude. What you're going right now is kind of like saying "How can you tell the story of the 1986 World Series without bringing up Satchel Paige and the Negro Leagues?" By which I mean the story of Negro League Baseball is loving fascinating but it's not the discussion we're having right now.
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The Dollop is a very good podcast and I look forward to it biweekly.
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adebisi lives posted:I can't wait to hear Hillary people declare that a vote for Jill Stein is a vote for Trump. A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for nobody, as per usual.
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:A vote for Jill Stein is a vote for nobody, as per usual. Not really. If you live in a very blue state and another party gets over 5% it makes a statement to the two parties that they are not governing correctly. It's a statement and a smart one. Dismissal of easy ways to show your problems with the party are a bad idea.
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I love yelling about politics too guys, but we shouldn't force it on normal people and there are like 20 threads elsewhere on this forum you can have this discussion. I will say I do miss Greg though, I wish he'd guest on a dollop. That might go horribly wrong, but oh well.
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dougdougdougdoug posted:Not really. If you live in a very blue state and another party gets over 5% it makes a statement to the two parties that they are not governing correctly. It's a statement and a smart one. Dismissal of easy ways to show your problems with the party are a bad idea. is it really a statement if its ignored
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Literally The Worst posted:is it really a statement if its ignored If a third party manages to get over a certain amount of votes, they get funding and increased access. Perot's Reform Party got national attention thanks to his run in '96, so they got matching funds in 2000. A third party getting that again would send a big message. Dave should do a Dollop on Perot.
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rotinaj posted:Dave should do a Dollop on Perot. Slate's Whistlestop covered Perot, and it was great. http://www.slate.com/articles/podcasts/whistlestop/2015/09/whistlestop_podcast_why_donald_trump_is_not_at_all_like_h_ross_perot.html
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rotinaj posted:If a third party manages to get over a certain amount of votes, they get funding and increased access. Perot's Reform Party got national attention thanks to his run in '96, so they got matching funds in 2000. A third party getting that again would send a big message. This is correct. And a Dollop on Perot would be amazing. He was crazy.
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Naylenas posted:Slate's Whistlestop covered Perot, and it was great. I love Whistlestop, but Dickerson is not a comedian. I'd love to hear Dave and Gareth's take on it, Gareth especially.
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dougdougdougdoug posted:This is correct. And a Dollop on Perot would be amazing. He was crazy. They could probably at least get a smallop out of Dan Quayle but he's kind of low hanging fruit.
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Sunday's episode has possibly the best offtopic diversion of the podcast. I would watch the gently caress out of Bro Court
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Gibfender posted:Sunday's episode has possibly the best offtopic diversion of the podcast. I would watch the gently caress out of Bro Court
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Gibfender posted:Sunday's episode has possibly the best offtopic diversion of the podcast. I would watch the gently caress out of Bro Court No love for Bloodsport: The Musical?
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:No love for Bloodsport: The Musical?
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Maduo posted:I love yelling about politics too guys, but we shouldn't force it on normal people and there are like 20 threads elsewhere on this forum you can have this discussion. If only they didn't know him Greg would make a great Smollop episode.
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Senor Tron posted:If only they didn't know him Greg would make a great Smollop episode. I'm convinced Greg would insist on being on the episode for the sake of a roast.
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I like it when the cat does things and they talk about it.
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Literally The Worst posted:is it really a statement if its ignored "Ignored" = get actual funding from government, I guess.
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The one about those bank robbers was incredible. It is amazing more people didn't die.
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JoshVanValkenburg posted:The one about those bank robbers was incredible. It is amazing more people didn't die. I was waiting for them to say that inspired the movie Heat, which was known to have been watched obsessively by the North Hollywood robbers.
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