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Skeezy posted:I've been saving my itch to play DQVIII again for the 3DS version. Hopefully it comes out this year. I've been digging around for my PS2 but I just can't find it. I may just buy another one and a memory card. I don't know if my PC is quite up to PS2 emulation.
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I beat Dragon Quest Heroes at what I thought was an absurdly high level (60), and am still underleveled for the postgame. So I see that the Dragon Quest tradition of massive grinding for postgame content got brought over smoothly.
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carrion kit posted:i've been playing DQ8 this past week and it's been a ton of fun. the world looks so lovingly crafted and detailed, it's a treat to explore. it's gorgeous, and though i never thought i'd say this about a video game - the voice acting is actually good and worth listening to. recipe system is neat, i haven't GameFAQ'd anything, and i don't really want to, so i hope i find some more recipes for weapons and armor. i keep trying out different poo poo and my best item so far is a bunny ears hat... But it's entirely possible to complete the game without knowing all the recipes, and a lot of the more useful recipes can be found in-game. But, if I had it to do over again, I would have just looked it up, because the vast majority of recipes are just impossible to access without a guide. Sort of frustrating for my terrible OCD combination of not using guides and being a completionist, but that's how it goes sometimes, I guess.
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May 30, 2016 13:51
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You can get through with basically zero alchemy and if you choose to complete the alchemy guide you lose out on some top tier items for no reward so it's pointless. Make the thief key and a few items here and there but don't worry about it too much because there are few really advanced recipes based on where you are in the game.
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May 30, 2016 13:54
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It would be cool if the remake solved the problem of it being possible to allocate skill points poorly. I guess we already know it doesn't, though.
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May 30, 2016 14:06
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The remake has a skill tree that shows you what's ahead now, instead of hiding it.
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Bongo Bill posted:It would be cool if the remake solved the problem of it being possible to allocate skill points poorly. I guess we already know it doesn't, though. I think it lets you spend them when you want like DQ9, so that's a big step in the right direction at least.
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May 30, 2016 14:33
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Is there an actual NA release date or window for DQ7? I've set up a new Retropie and have been holding off playing the game on that, but I don't want to wait forever, either.
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Wee Bairns posted:Is there an actual NA release date or window for DQ7? I've set up a new Retropie and have been holding off playing the game on that, but I don't want to wait forever, either.
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May 30, 2016 15:39
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I just finished dq5 for the ds recently and while it was OK I wasn't blown away since I've always heard people really liked it. I'd tried it on snes before but couldn't get into it. Maybe if I'd played it twenty years ago I would have loved it. I just felt like it dragged on and I didn't really like the monster recruiting. Started dq6 on ds and am way more into it. It just feels like a more polished game.
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Bigass Moth posted:I just finished dq5 for the ds recently and while it was OK I wasn't blown away since I've always heard people really liked it. I'd tried it on snes before but couldn't get into it. Maybe if I'd played it twenty years ago I would have loved it. I just felt like it dragged on and I didn't really like the monster recruiting. I played it 3 months ago and loved it. Hope you find one you like
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Jun 3, 2016 16:48
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DQ 8 and 9 are two of my all time favorite games, five just didn't do it for me. Maybe it was a little too old school.
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i think people are big into 5 because it had one of the more novel plotlines for a dragon quest game
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It also introduced a few things like monster taming. DQ6 is still my favorite despite the bullshit-grade boss fight directly before you unlock Dharma and class changing. Though I think the remakes toned it down a bit? I know even on an emulator the SFC version was brutal as hell if you didn't grind some levels.
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I just ignored the monster taming aspect of 5 since the rng sure as hell wasn't going to help me. I used the whole family to beat up the bad guys when they all joined up and it was great.
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I think 6's biggest problems don't really become evident until near the end of the game. The vocation system is a poor fit for having a large party, and it kind of punishes experimentation and encourages grind.
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Brother Entropy posted:i think people are big into 5 because it had one of the more novel plotlines for a dragon quest game Heck, it's a novel idea for a RPG in general. Not too many RPGs do that sort of thing.
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Jun 5, 2016 15:34
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It's pretty good when you remember it's a goddamn NES game. The amount of relevant content the DQ games back in the early era is mindboggling.
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Tae posted:It's pretty good when you remember it's a goddamn NES game. I still think that DQ3 on the NES was an incredibly ambitious and polished game for its time, rendered even more amazing by the lack of bugs and/or broken gameplay systems. I like Final Fantasy the First, but it gets more press despite being bugged up the arse simply because it came out sooner. I adore DQ3 and, as I have a birthday soon, I am thinking about buying a "complete" version of that game because I love that fantastic manual/guide that came with the original package.
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In Japan, there was a 3 month gap between FF1 and DQ3. America got them all way later, which skewed perception of the games a bit I think. 4 year gap between DQ3 and DW3, and FF1 only had a 2 1/2 year gap. So while they were practically simultaneous releases in Japan, DQ3 was a year and a half later than FF1 over here. If Enix could have gotten the series over in a more timely manner, FF wouldn't have looked nearly as special in comparison at all.
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JustJeff88 posted:I still think that DQ3 on the NES was an incredibly ambitious and polished game for its time, rendered even more amazing by the lack of bugs and/or broken gameplay systems. I like Final Fantasy the First, but it gets more press despite being bugged up the arse simply because it came out sooner. I adore DQ3 and, as I have a birthday soon, I am thinking about buying a "complete" version of that game because I love that fantastic manual/guide that came with the original package.
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Scalding Coffee posted:DQ3 would have been flawless if the final bunch of enemies didn't turn into sponges, for what you can get out of them. All the previous encounters went fast and the pacing was very good. Didn't find any groups that meant you would die in one turn or take forever to whittle down. This is probably intentional, since the previous games also had end game encounters exist to suck up the few resources you can hold and the bosses will tear you apart without them. My opinion is inflated since it was right after slogging through DQ2. I don't recall having any quarrel with the end of DW3, but I will concur that the NES version of DW2 was shite. I absolutely hated it and beat it as soon as I could just to get it over with. I just played through the SFC version and it was quite a bit better, but 3 is just a better game. No shame in that - games in a series *should* get better as they go along. I have yet to seriously play any version of 4, however.
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JustJeff88 posted:I don't recall having any quarrel with the end of DW3, but I will concur that the NES version of DW2 was shite. I absolutely hated it and beat it as soon as I could just to get it over with. I just played through the SFC version and it was quite a bit better, but 3 is just a better game. No shame in that - games in a series *should* get better as they go along. 4 is really good. It's where they really start building plots to go with the gameplay. If you play on the NES, be aware that in chapter 5, you can only indirectly influence what your party does in fights (if you ever played Persona 3 -- not Portable -- it's a lot like that), so you may want to do it on another version if you think that is going to drive you nuts.
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Tae posted:It's pretty good when you remember it's a goddamn NES game. 5 was a Super Famicom game though. It postdates FF4 and was released only two months before FF5.
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pyromance posted:4 is really good. It's where they really start building plots to go with the gameplay. If you play on the NES, be aware that in chapter 5, you can only indirectly influence what your party does in fights (if you ever played Persona 3 -- not Portable -- it's a lot like that), so you may want to do it on another version if you think that is going to drive you nuts. I am aware of the control situation late in the game, but there is a Game Genie code to give the player full control of all party members. I'm told, however, that that can make the game too easy. I also have the DS cartridge version, so I'm not sure which way I would go. Probably the NES version, as I've played through DW1-3 in their original western incarnations fairly recently - may as well finish the quartet.
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Bigass Moth posted:I just finished dq5 for the ds recently and while it was OK I wasn't blown away since I've always heard people really liked it. I'd tried it on snes before but couldn't get into it. Maybe if I'd played it twenty years ago I would have loved it. I just felt like it dragged on and I didn't really like the monster recruiting. DQV on the SNES was very underwhelming - too me, it marked the point where the Final Fantasy series actually passed DQ as the innovator for JRPGs at the time. DQV DS is really well done and a huge step up from the SNES original. I've played through it a couple of times and I've been itching lately to play it again. That said, I agree that DQ6 is a far more polished game (and it seems like Enix took a lot of lessons from Square) and I definitely prefer it, though it can get kind of grindy depending on your vocation choices. Not DW7 grindy, mind you, but still grindy.
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JustJeff88 posted:I still think that DQ3 on the NES was an incredibly ambitious and polished game for its time, rendered even more amazing by the lack of bugs and/or broken gameplay systems. I like Final Fantasy the First, but it gets more press despite being bugged up the arse simply because it came out sooner. I adore DQ3 and, as I have a birthday soon, I am thinking about buying a "complete" version of that game because I love that fantastic manual/guide that came with the original package. I remember Nintendo Power spoiling the ending to Dragon Warrior 3, possibly before it even came out in the US, and later reading some mention about the crazy lines for the game as well as people having their fresh-bought copies stolen. Playing through that game completely blind and getting to the Big Bad reveal after beating Baramos must've been mind-blowing considering that the game up to Baramos was about as long as DQ2 IIRC and you even had similar end game (and non-Edrick) gear. JustJeff88 posted:I don't recall having any quarrel with the end of DW3, but I will concur that the NES version of DW2 was shite. I absolutely hated it and beat it as soon as I could just to get it over with. I just played through the SFC version and it was quite a bit better, but 3 is just a better game. No shame in that - games in a series *should* get better as they go along. Play the NES version of DQ4, maybe with a patch or GG code to give you manual party control in chapter 5 (though this will make the game much easier too). The remake is fine, and Chapter 6 is neat (but grindy as gently caress), but it's also from the era of them going tryhard on the translations as well as homogenizing lots of spell names. I've played the NES and DS versions and the only thing I want to take from the remake in to the original is the Bag. near-infinite inventory is nice, especially if you want to take an extra 10 minutes in Chapter 3 to stockpile 99 Swords of Malice (and other items) to ensure you never have to worry about money in chapter 5, and can potentially buy a MBS outright in the casino instead of dealing with RNG for hours on end (the latter being a non-issue with an emulator though).
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Evil Fluffy posted:Play the NES version of DQ4, maybe with a patch or GG code to give you manual party control in chapter 5 (though this will make the game much easier too). The remake is fine, and Chapter 6 is neat (but grindy as gently caress), but it's also from the era of them going tryhard on the translations as well as homogenizing lots of spell names. I've played the NES and DS versions and the only thing I want to take from the remake in to the original is the Bag. near-infinite inventory is nice, especially if you want to take an extra 10 minutes in Chapter 3 to stockpile 99 Swords of Malice (and other items) to ensure you never have to worry about money in chapter 5, and can potentially buy a MBS outright in the casino instead of dealing with RNG for hours on end (the latter being a non-issue with an emulator though). I might do that for my next RPG. I have a personal policy where I only play one RPG at once, and I'm getting to the end of a modded version of the original Final Fantasy. I generally prefer to play the older versions of games before the more modern ones to see the evolution of graphics and gameplay, which is what led me to find out that the original DW2 is shite and the SFC remake is solid. I haven't played the GBC version is virtually identical, apart from graphics. I have DQ3 for Super Famicom on cartridge, and I'm looking forward to popping that into the Retron and loading up the translation patch. Beautiful game with lovely sprites and animations, but I wish that it had all of the content of the GBC version because I find that port to be very hard on the eyes.
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https://www.twitch.tv/nescardinality You might be able to catch the VOD of it, but someone managed to beat the original Dragon Warrior at level 7, making his way to the Dragonlord by memorizing the number of times he'd blindly bump his head against walls, and then rolling the dice enough with the B button to flawlessly kill both forms. Final time is 58:10:68.
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I remember getting there at level 13 when I was a kid and barely surviving the castle only to get crushed by the dragon lord. I didn't think it was possible to beat him that low without tas sleep spamming.
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I'm interested in buying a good quality boxed copy of DQ I.II and III for the Super Famicom. Are there fakes out there on eBay I should be aware of? Overemotional Robot fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Jun 7, 2016 |
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Overemotional Robot posted:I'm interested in buying a good quality boxed copy of DQ I.II and III for the Super Famicom. I recently bought DQ I&II, III, V and VI (cartridge only, mind you) from US sellers and I've had no issues. The vast majority of sellers are going to be in Japan, so you're looking at several weeks of shipping time even though the prices are fantastic.
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Could someone refresh my memory on the current status of DQXI? It's supposed to be developed for both the 3DS and the PS4 or something, right?
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Yes bit how that works nobody knows. It is supposed to be released this year in Japan and later everywhere else but they haven't been great with hitting release dates lately.
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I want to replay DQ9. Support for the DQVC is now gone. Is there any way to access the quests/items/shop that required DQVC?
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Draile posted:I want to replay DQ9. Support for the DQVC is now gone. Is there any way to access the quests/items/shop that required DQVC? The quest are already on the cart so you can use a cheat device to unlock them.
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Well, I just beat Dragon Quest I for the Super Famicom. That was my first time ever playing it, too. I think my favorite thing about the first DQ is just how streamlined it all is. I never had to make a real choice (I love equipment choices in rpgs, so this was very refreshing). Every equipment upgrade was an obvious upgrade and there was a real feeling of getting stronger. I remember being totally turned off Dragon Warrior's box art back in the day because it looked so dang generic. Now to play through II and then get III.
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Pureauthor posted:Could someone refresh my memory on the current status of DQXI? I don't think they've said anything more about it since the reveal. They did also announce it (and DQ10) for NX but we don't know anything about NX, either.
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Overemotional Robot posted:Well, I just beat Dragon Quest I for the Super Famicom. That was my first time ever playing it, too. I just played through DQ I & II myself in recent months. The biggest difference I noted between the two was that you level up so much more quickly. There are the graphics too, of course, but I actually quite liked the DW graphics from the NES games. Minimal and rubbish animation, but I thought that the monster sprites essentially had a lot of character, no pun intended. You are right though... DQ1 especially really gives you a feeling of growing power. Due to how the game calculates damage and so on, eventually just about any enemy apart from the final boss becomes trivial. Once you have all of the best gear and hit level 28 or 29, even Red Dragons can barely harm you, and that's easily the toughest non-boss monster in the whole game and you only fight those on the bottom floors of the final castle. DQ2 on the Famicom was miles better than on the NES - I could never play DW2 again, honestly. I can't say that it's a great game and I wish that they hadn't fixed the bug that lets you duplicate the Water Flying Cloth, but I actually enjoyed playing it this time. The first, last and only time I played DW2 for the NES was a few years ago, and I mostly just wanted to get it over with. As soon as I was done with that piece of poo poo I went ahead and started up DW3, which is quite possibly my favourite NES game of all, and the contrast in quality seemed even more glaring.
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8 was my intro to the series, and based on what you said I can't wait to dig into 2 and 3. I noticed that the mobile version of 1 looks pretty nice. Does it have a good translation / is it worth getting? I'd like to have as many ways as possible to play 1, 2, and 3 which is why I picked up the Famicom versions to begin with. I wish they had just released the Wii collection and I would have been set.
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