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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Oh he does, is editorial the one who doesn't. So editorial mandated him to be a murderous, psychopathic, man child? Man that "Dark Trinity" book is going to suck hardcore. Bizarro and Todd should just be villains again. I mean Bizarro you can say is just a misunderstood Frankenstein's monster character who can be redeemed. Todd is a straight villain who was given multiple chances to redeem himself. He always turns into a whiney bitchboy and cries about no one loving him.
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He was fine in B&R:Eternal.
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Hey Toxx, did you end up reading the Superman Beyond issues of Final Crisis?
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JoshTheStampede posted:He was fine in B&R:Eternal. The editors gave the writers a bit more freedom.
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Mr Hootington posted:The editors gave the writers a bit more freedom. Do you really think the editorial mandate is "Jason must be an unrepentant 1-dimensional murderous shitbag?"
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I didn't like it = editorial mandate.
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JoshTheStampede posted:Do you really think the editorial mandate is "Jason must be an unrepentant 1-dimensional murderous shitbag?" You are an amazing person. 
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Mr Hootington posted:So editorial mandated him to be a murderous, psychopathic, man child? Something that he is not under Lobdell or any other writer in the N52. As I've pointed out before, Jason barely kills on his own title. Even less in the crossovers. The issue about Jason's appearances in other books is that very few writers follow Lobdell's characterization, reducing him to a generic "bad boy"
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I do hope that Black Mask kicks the crap out of him during their next showdown. (Todd fights Black Mask way too much. I feel like Black Mask is the only Bat villain Todd ever fights.)
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Teenage Fansub posted:Let's not treat each other like this. We wouldn't have to worry about this if the Red Hood thread was still around. I actually long for a Red Hood thread again so this poo poo could be contained
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Mr Hootington posted:You are an amazing person. Oh sorry I literally didn't see who I was responding to, I thought you were DT.
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I do not think DC gives enough of a poo poo to meddle with Red Hood DT.
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Jun 13, 2016 03:32
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There's a part of me that wants to just cut and paste everything DT posts since he has to be the single person who's put this much thought into Jason loving Todd.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Hey Toxx, did you end up reading the Superman Beyond issues of Final Crisis? No, I stopped giving a poo poo about Final Crisis long ago.
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Toxxupation posted:No, I stopped giving a poo poo about Final Crisis long ago. If you ever get around to reading The Multiversity it's definitely worth a look, plus it's a good Superman story in its own right. TO BE CONTINUED is a really great moment.
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Yea I had the same issue with Final Crisis. Enjoyed the first few issues but it got so up its own arse that I didn't know what was going on. I read Superman Beyond later on (it was sold it when the series was coming out) and the main series made more sense, but it pissed me off even more that I needed to read outside issues to understand what was going on in the main series.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:No wonder you had issues with it being confusing. It's not an optional part of the story, regardless of whatever your reading list said. To be fair I was only interested in Final Crisis inasmuch as it tied in to Batman, less as its own event.
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Superman #1 preview. http://www.comicbookresources.com/comic-previews/superman-1-dc-comics-2016    
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So is the son someone born to Lois Lane or is it some kind of weird adoption thing?
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Madkal posted:So is the son someone born to Lois Lane or is it some kind of weird adoption thing? The new Superboy? PF-Lois gave birth to him in Convergence Superman #2.
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Madkal posted:So is the son someone born to Lois Lane or is it some kind of weird adoption thing? No, he's Clark and Lois' biological kid. Old Clark and Old Lois. New Clark is dead and new Lois....uh...I guess will become Superwoman somehow?
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Jun 13, 2016 20:57
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Any word on Connor? I thought he was running around in TT for a few issues not long ago.
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Kingtheninja posted:Any word on Connor? I thought he was running around in TT for a few issues not long ago. Kon-El showed up but was a completely different character unrecognizable as the old Connor. No word on old Connor, but Johns has said over and over again that he is who he misses the most from pre-New52 so its a good bet he'll convince someone to bring him back.
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That Superman preview has me very excited. That splash page is beautiful.
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Wait, I thought Chris Kent was Zod's son that they adopted.
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Endless Mike posted:Wait, I thought Chris Kent was Zod's son that they adopted. He was. This is Jonathan Kent.
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Oh. Shows how much I keep up!
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Stupid question, but that preview is the black-garb wearing other Superman, right, and not his son somehow aged? I thought other Supes was supposed to be older, seeing him without his beard and young is throwing me off.
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He is older, but he shaved. He didn't have any gray or anything in Convergence/L&C, so it kind of makes sense that he looks young. After all, he probably doesn't age anywhere near as quickly as a human.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:Stupid question, but that preview is the black-garb wearing other Superman, right, and not his son somehow aged? He nonchalantly shaves with a mirror and his heat vision in Superman:Rebirth or maybe Action Comics I don't remember which. His son is still like 8.
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Nonchalantly?
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I finished Tomasi's Batman and Robin run. It was a really incredible run, start to finish, and felt like it weaved in a bunch of Morrison's narrative elements at play to more satisfying conclusions post-R.I.P., most notably Inc (and Requiem) but also stuff like Final Crisis. Really just loved that run from start to finish. Morrison gets all the credit and Snyder gets anything left (and in the latter's case I think it's totally deserved, Morrison was more hit-or-miss than I expected on Batman) but man, what Tomasi did over 40 issues and three specials was really loving incredible. He even had an excellent post-requiem extended arc that lived with Damian's death but still wrung really good stories out of it before verting to the status quo.
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It's worth following it up with Pat Gleason's Robin solo. e: and Superman too, I'm guessing. Tomasi and Gleason also did a good run of Green Lantern Corps (and Gleason with Dave Gibbons before Tomasi), if you ever want to check out something GL. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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Teenage Fansub posted:Nonchalantly? Yeah, I meant "casually and without calling attention to it". Like its something he does all the time. I thought it was funny.
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Oh yeah, Robin: Son of Batman is incredibly fun when it's not being derailed by Robin War. I hope Super Sons can capture half as much good times as that. New desktop wallpaper found. Tomasi is really the unsung hero of current day DC writers. VV "THIS BEARD IS YOU, LEX LUTHOR!! RAAARGH!"
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That was a raging hate-shave.Travis343 posted:Tomasi is really the unsung hero of current day DC writers. I thought Final Days and SM/WW were big clunkers. The magic comes out with Gleason in tow. His new Dark Horse comic, House of Penance is fantastic, though. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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Teenage Fansub posted:That was a raging hate-shave. What I found hilarious was that shaving his face with lasers and mirror was just something he does hurriedly as he rushes out the door, like grabbing his keys or finding his wallet.
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Travis343 posted:
"YAHHHHH I'M SUPERMAN! SEE! SUPERMAN HAS HAIR ON HIS HEAD BUT NOT ON HIS CHIN!"
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Travis343 posted:Tomasi is really the unsung hero of current day DC writers. Tomasi's Green Lantern Corps books are really good too. The guy writes solid, good comics.
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