HEY GAL posted:Draw the line further north, separate those fucks who speak Platte from the normal people? Today I learned that the original naval tonnage has nothing to do with the modern measurement of weight. Booze! Also, the concept of 13th century nobility ordering weird wooden castle like super structures to be awkwardly built on boats as well before going to sea. JcDent posted:Battlefield 1 gameplay! Time to be unhappy about scooting tanks and WWI parachute assaults! Eh, I don't really mind as it'd suck for tanks to be slow and break down after five minutes. I'm kind of sad though it seems bolt actions may just be a thing for medium to long range recon. Also, man the weapons in that era swaddled with scopes, bipeds and bayonets look so drat ugly. I hope I can play fine without them like a dumb purist.
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Disinterested posted:Western. I think, correct me if I'm wrong OP, that he was using 'Western Europe' in the sense of 'not Eastern Europe where the Russians were already fighting', and by that definition Italy isn't exactly Byelorussia. Otherwise why not just say France? It's not like the Allies were going to invade Portugal.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Eh, I don't really mind as it'd suck for tanks to be slow and break down after five minutes. I'm kind of sad though it seems bolt actions may just be a thing for medium to long range recon. Also, man the weapons in that era swaddled with scopes, bipeds and bayonets look so drat ugly. I hope I can play fine without them like a dumb purist. Is there artillery in this game, and can you be headshotted by it? No reason.
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MikeCrotch posted:Is there artillery in this game, and can you be headshotted by it? No reason. They streamed a sort of late war looking man which seemed more movement assault based, through in the trailer they showed field pieces in action with a really nice looking autoloader animation. I strongly suspect artillery will be hand of god style shells from the sky called in my squad leaders/commanders like the previous games.
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SeanBeansShako posted:They streamed a sort of late war looking man which seemed more movement assault based, through in the trailer they showed field pieces in action with a really nice looking autoloader animation. Or maybe objectives like in that one Call of Duty level.
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feedmegin posted:I think, correct me if I'm wrong OP, that he was using 'Western Europe' in the sense of 'not Eastern Europe where the Russians were already fighting', and by that definition Italy isn't exactly Byelorussia. Otherwise why not just say France? It's not like the Allies were going to invade Portugal. There was also Operation Dragoon, though I guess that happened after Overlord.
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SeanBeansShako posted:It's kind of funny, neutral facts and sources are hard to find in a world not ruined by the apocalypse in with some things. A little slow, because life happens and I am garbage. Going to put up an effort post soon on something completely different and hopefully clear out some more time for writing.
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P-Mack posted:A little slow, because life happens and I am garbage. Don't worry, this is basically the motto of all long-form posters
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so, to the people wondering how comfortable a 17th century pistol is to hold, this weekend at reenactment a guy showed me his matchlock pistol (  ) and it felt like: imagine you're holding a sword with a wooden grip. Now imagine your hand is straight out, palm down, and either almost parallel to the ground or at about a 20 degree angle. It's kind of awkward! Also you don't hold the gun with both hands, just one of them. Your off hand supports the hand you use. also the gun is much heavier than it should be HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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HEY GAL posted:so, to the people wondering how comfortable a 17th century pistol is to hold, this weekend at reenactment a guy showed me his matchlock pistol ( Did you fire it out a window?
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I didn't know that the invasion of Italy was such a slap fight. Jesus.
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Arquinsiel posted:Most worrying, Reagan did. Reagan gave a book jacket blurb that said Red October was a good read, which it is. Without Remorse is garbage, like all Clancy after a certain point. It's really obvious if you compare something like Red October to some of the unreadable stuff he wrote later that he just got too successful to let himself be edited. Each book gets longer and has more characters doing horrible monologues where they explain philosophy, and eventually you get to a point where the same characters give the same monologues or have the same conversations multiple times in the same book. Without Remorse doesn't suffer from that so much as it's just not even a good story.
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OneTruePecos posted:Reagan gave a book jacket blurb that said Red October was a good read, which it is. And Patriot Games wasn't bad except for Clancy's readily-apparent hard-on for the House of Windsor. Cardinal of the Kremlin was a pretty damned good spy novel, too. After that he started going off the rails.
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Yeah I'm Badener born and bred and the idea of voluntarily venturing north of the Main river is strange and worrying to me.
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aphid_licker posted:Yeah I'm Badener born and bred and the idea of voluntarily venturing north of the Main river is strange and worrying to me. this weekend i discovered my saxon friends refer to the old border as "the border"
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captain poopfister posted:I didn't know that the invasion of Italy was such a slap fight. Jesus. In that it was relatively small compared to Overlord?
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OneTruePecos posted:Reagan gave a book jacket blurb that said Red October was a good read, which it is.
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Which Clancy book had the protagonist shooting bad guys with Prince Charles?
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Hogge Wild posted:Which Clancy book had the protagonist shooting bad guys with Prince Charles? Patriot games. Movie is fantastic if only for sean bean dieing in a truly hilarious way.
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My Mum is claiming that the average age of Vietcong fighters was 19. Is she right and is this answer going to arrive before she finds the answer?
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Arquinsiel posted:Red Dawn Rising The Tom Clancy film starring Patrick Swayze
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P-Mack posted:A little slow, because life happens and I am garbage. Going to put up an effort post soon on something completely different and hopefully clear out some more time for writing. That is fine take your time, always fun to read about China. Polyakov posted:Patriot games.  Throatwarbler posted:The Tom Clancy film starring Patrick Swayze The one he saves President Redford and they storm the Kremlin with a M16 rifle in each hand.
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I stopped reading Clancy books after the one that ends with the Japanese guy flying a plane in to the US Capitol building. I was like, "*snort*, that's ridiculous, that could never happen!"
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Hazzard posted:My Mum is claiming that the average age of Vietcong fighters was 19. Is she right and is this answer going to arrive before she finds the answer? Sounds plausible, I mean that would have been about the average age of a US grunt at the time.
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Throatwarbler posted:The Tom Clancy film starring Patrick Swayze pthighs posted:I stopped reading Clancy books after the one that ends with the Japanese guy flying a plane in to the US Capitol building. I was like, "*snort*, that's ridiculous, that could never happen!"  ed out by a single badass US helicopter pilot.Arquinsiel fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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Are any of these Cold War Gone Hot trash novels any good at all? I just want to grog out with tank porn. I've already read Team Yankee, which I liked well enough, even if the Soviets present basically no threat at all to the NATO forces.
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If you want to grog out? No. If you want to indulge in Reagan era Patriot masturbation yeah. Edit: or you could wander over to TFR and find out how bad that genre REALLY gets. Oh John Ringo no
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BeigeJacket posted:Are any of these Cold War Gone Hot trash novels any good at all? I just want to grog out with tank porn. Red Army, Chieftains, maybe Hackett's WWIII (though he's very much in the Enochian mould).
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Arquinsiel posted:I have consumed so much 80's cold war schlock that it all just merges together into one glorious mess. I think something in Tom Clancy broke when the Soviet Union dissolved peacefully. Every book post-Soviet Union he wrote seemed to be desperately looking for someone to fill that void as a worthy superpower rival to the US in open military and in spy games.
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BeigeJacket posted:Are any of these Cold War Gone Hot trash novels any good at all? I just want to grog out with tank porn. There's a more recently written Cold War gone hot trilogy by Harvey Black. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Harvey-Black/e/B001KCG3DK Which, while not without flaw, were an interesting enough read. As for Chieftains, which I agree wasn't bad. Did anyone else get the impression it was quite ruthlessly trimmed by it's editor(It's barely more than 250 pages, and yes I know books tended to be slimmer back then). The whole SAS stay behind team plot just vanishes half way through, you get a higher level Generals viewpoint which never occurs again and the ending is super abrupt. Yes I know why it's super abrupt and presumably what happens next is "The missiles are flying , Hallelujah!" but you'd think there be at least some epilogue/viewpoint addressing it. Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jun 13, 2016 |
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Deptfordx posted:There's a more recently written Cold War gone hot trilogy by Harvey Black. Epilogues imply survivors.
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Hazzard posted:My Mum is claiming that the average age of Vietcong fighters was 19. Is she right and is this answer going to arrive before she finds the answer? It's hard to answer, really. I will say that a most of the cadres at the start of the war tilted towards the older, as many were veterans of fighting the French.
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This documentary I found claims the average age of American soldiers was 19. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRJFvtvTGEk
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BeigeJacket posted:Are any of these Cold War Gone Hot trash novels any good at all? I just want to grog out with tank porn. A variant is the Wingman series by Mack Maloney. I read almost every book in the series back in high school. It's kind of like a post-apocalyptic Cold War pulp novel, set in an alternate history where World War III happened in the 80s (with both sides engaging in a conventional ground war in Europe with nobody willing to drop a nuke) that ended with a NATO victory...right before the Vice President revealed himself to be a mole and took down the Star Wars shield, allowing the Soviets to launch a mass nuclear strike against America. The story actually begins in the 1990s, with the former United States broken up into individual city-states and minor nations. Sky pirates in old surplus fighter jets like Delta Darts, Tiger IIs, and Voodoos force down airliners or perform air strikes on civilian targets, and a secret Soviet remnant is pulling the strings behind the scenes to try and finally invade and conquer the US. Hawk Hunter, the greatest pilot the universe has ever seen and a World War III veteran (able to fly any plane beyond its capabilities and with a mystical sixth sense that lets him instinctively know when and where airplanes are approaching from), is brought out of self-imposed exile by his former commanding officer to lead the fight against tyranny and create the idealistic American utopia everyone wants. It hits every note for these kinds of pulp novels: over the top villains, from a mustache-twirling Russian mastermind who serves as the recurring Big Bad of the series to various bizarre evil groups (like the Ku Klux Klan Air Force and the Fourth Reich), an overdose of military porn, a total lack of strong female characters and a tendency to use them as sex objects and props, gratuitous violence (in one book Hawk hovers a Harrier over a jeep full of bad guys, setting it on fire and causing a morbidly obese warlord to explode before the jeep flies off a cliff), world-spanning adventures that include at least one book about Nazis hunting Inca gold, and extreme patriotism for America and the American Dream (defined by things like baseball and flags). The protagonist's plane is the last remaining F-16 in the world, which the author insists is the best fighter plane ever made, painted in Thunderbirds livery. He eventually upgrades it with 6 Vulcan cannons in the nose (don't think too hard about how this works), and even later turns it into an F-16XL. The reformed American forces get two C-5 Galaxies and convert them into gigantic Spooky gunships, one of which has every mounted gun the author could think to fit (down to 40mm grenade launchers); one book involves this plane crashing in Vietnam and fighting off human wave attacks for almost the entire novel. It finally reaches peak crazy at the end of the series, where Hawk goes to space for a final showdown and crashes through a portal in the atmosphere after saving the world, flinging him into an alternate timeline where World War II never ended and he now has to fight in a dieselpunk war with 9-engine gigantic bombers and house-sized transport helicopters. The last book is a disorienting mishmash of alternate universes that makes basically no sense. And finally, Mack just went full-on ballistic and made the Starhawk series about an amnesiac Hawk Hunter being transported to the year 7200 and becoming the future's greatest pilot, flying a spaceship that looks exactly like a Thunderbird F-16 but can circumnavigate the globe in less than a second. It's got every kind of weird and excess you can get from a sci-fi novel.
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Deptfordx posted:There's a more recently written Cold War gone hot trilogy by Harvey Black. Oh hey I forgot about those. IIRC the dude's ex-BRIXMIS (British Military Mission in the Soviet Occupation Zone, basically legal spies) and he obviously knows his technical stuff. Not much in the way of great prose though.
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Random name generators exist for those who are unable to to come up with un-sueish names. 
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chitoryu12 posted:A variant is the Wingman series by Mack Maloney. I read almost every book in the series back in high school. The summaries of these books on the author's website are fantastic: quote:It really is a simple plot. The United Americans have been flying across the country because the middle of the country is a devastated wasteland. So they get a huge gun train together and attempt to go across by land. Of course they are all sorts of enemies waiting for them, including the KKK Air Force. The underlying theme of this book is, believe it or not, race relations. It begins with Hawk defending an African-American friend of his in a bar fight. There is also a main character who is an American Indian. There’s lots of action in this one as the train battles its way across the west. Plenty of strange stuff too as parts of it recall Hunter being on a psychiatrist’s couch, and while on the train, being “inspired” by a beautiful Asian girl. It is also the first time that Hawk flies a plane other than his F-16. It’s been stolen by the bad guys, so he’s flying a Harrier jumpjet. quote:Actually a love story to Baseball, there are also a lot of lipstick lesbian scenes in here, this because of a letter I’d written to my editor. I’d told him that having Hawk can get his oil changed four times a book was really slowing things down. I asked him if Hawk went to bed with two women twice a book, would that fulfill the requirement. He agreed, and that’s why from this point on, there are so many girl-on-girl scenes in the books. quote:In those days, I was writing the books so quickly, the publisher frequently had the cover jackets printed up even before I even finished the book. In this case, I had told them that the Nazis were after Inca gold. Only when I got to the last part of the book did I realize I should have said “Aztec gold,” as the Aztecs were from Central America, and the Incas were way down in South America. But a zillion covers had already been printed up. That’s why, in the last few chapters, I had to pick up everything and everybody and move them all a thousand miles south, to Bolivia, where they could finally end the adventure by finding all that freaking Inca gold.
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