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Calaveron posted:So he dresses like a bat to do violence on people, constantly putting others, including minors, at risk, fueled by the memory of his dead parents. Yeah like...in what world does this not red flag mental illness?
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Canemacar posted:And let's not forget the plethora of super-intelligent scientists who could cure cancer, end world hunger, create infinite clean energy, and rid the world of all disease, but don't because they're too busy punching people in the face. 
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CelticPredator posted:Yeah like...in what world does this not red flag mental illness? The DC universe. Also the Marvel universe.
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Jun 14, 2016 05:05
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Most those people have their themes forced on them by random chance or science experiment gone wrong. Bruce is just insane
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Jun 14, 2016 05:17
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I see a lot of people saying they hated everything BUT Batman in the movie, which is weird as gently caress to me. Sure, Affleck did a good job, but what a miserable, lovely take on the character. It's like they took the already dislikeable, one-dimensional version of the character from the Arkham games and made him even more of a one dimensional rear end in a top hat.
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Jun 14, 2016 05:22
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CharlestheHammer posted:Most those people have their themes forced on them by random chance or science experiment gone wrong. Bruce is just insane Also their birth name. Was Edward Nygma and Otto Octavious really going to be anything but Riddler and Dr Octopus with those names.
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Jun 14, 2016 06:29
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Madkal posted:Also their birth name. Was Edward Nygma and Otto Octavious really going to be anything but Riddler and Dr Octopus with those names. You have to wonder though is that the name doing it, or is there a strong correlation between people who would name their kids E. Nygma or Otto Octavious and people who would raise their kids to intentionally be supervillains. Like even if you accept "Nygma" is just a normal last name and not a name the family changed their name to just to create that pun, the parents still had to decide "We will name our kid E. Nygma", and you don't do that unless you know you're going to raise them to be a superhero/villain. burnishedfume fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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Jun 14, 2016 06:50
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On the other hand, if you want your kid to be a hero, you give them an alliterative name.
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Madkal posted:Also their birth name. Was Edward Nygma and Otto Octavious really going to be anything but Riddler and Dr Octopus with those names. And don't get me started on the parents of Blackagar Boltagon!
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Batman is a crazy psychopath who punches homeless people. Wait no he's Perseus the peak of humanity who fights gods and saves the Earth and journeys to space and hell and back.
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Jun 14, 2016 11:01
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DrProsek posted:You have to wonder though is that the name doing it, or is there a strong correlation between people who would name their kids E. Nygma or Otto Octavious and people who would raise their kids to intentionally be supervillains. Like even if you accept "Nygma" is just a normal last name and not a name the family changed their name to just to create that pun, the parents still had to decide "We will name our kid E. Nygma", and you don't do that unless you know you're going to raise them to be a superhero/villain. The best part is (Post Crisis) the Riddler's real name is perfectly normal Eddie Nash. He changed it to Edward Nygmia because he wants to be a super villain. Which in my mind is an interesting character beat.
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Jun 14, 2016 12:38
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DrProsek posted:You have to wonder though is that the name doing it, or is there a strong correlation between people who would name their kids E. Nygma or Otto Octavious and people who would raise their kids to intentionally be supervillains. Like even if you accept "Nygma" is just a normal last name and not a name the family changed their name to just to create that pun, the parents still had to decide "We will name our kid E. Nygma", and you don't do that unless you know you're going to raise them to be a superhero/villain. There are people IRL who have named their child Sephiroth...
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I think the idea most of the time is that someone decides to be a supervillain/hero, and so names themselves some pun or reference to their real name. Like Captain Atom could have been anything related to energy or radiation or whatever, but he chose that because it's basically already his name and Captain Atoms sounds a little silly. There's always going to be ones like Victor Fries who are too convenient though, obviously.
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Lurdiak posted:I see a lot of people saying they hated everything BUT Batman in the movie, which is weird as gently caress to me. Sure, Affleck did a good job, but what a miserable, lovely take on the character. It's like they took the already dislikeable, one-dimensional version of the character from the Arkham games and made him even more of a one dimensional rear end in a top hat.
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I think it wasn't so much that people loved Affleck's portrayal in this movie, but more that you could see the potential of a great Batman movie with him paired with a competent director and script? Like he did the best he could with the material he was given which was unfortunately written and directed by someone with a fundamental Misunderstanding of the character. There's only so much you can do as an actor in that scenario.
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Wonder Woman was the best part, obviously, but she was in the movie for forty-five seconds, and Superman was a gaping black chasm of personality, so Batfleck gets latched on to. The fact that he got the only good action scene in the movie probably helps.
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Dacap posted:Like he did the best he could with the material he was given which was unfortunately written and directed by someone with a fundamental Misunderstanding of the character. Not really. A character is a device for storytelling. He's a grim aristocrat driven crime-fighter whose singular crusade is driven by the psychosis of his parents' death. That fits the story about a grim aristocrat etc trying to kill God out of fear and rage. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:The last Arkham game changed that though? Half of the story was about Bruce not being able to do everything on his own. I didn't play that one.
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Lurdiak posted:I didn't play that one. I don't really agree that Batman is characterized much better than he is in City but Knight is the best game in the series. You should check it out.
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I saw Civil War on Sunday night, and so finally got to catch up on like 59 pages of the thread. My critical opinion is now that BvS is terrible because it makes this thread really, really bad.
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Travis343 posted:I don't really agree that Batman is characterized much better than he is in City but Knight is the best game in the series. You should check it out. Every review I've seen said the complete opposite.
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The whole "Batman doesn't kill" thing goes right out the window when you can powerslide into mooks at 80 miles an hour in the Batmobile Edit: Not that that makes it a bad game by any means
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Lurdiak posted:Every review I've seen said the complete opposite. Are you sure you're not thinking of Origins, the crappy prequel they farmed out to a different dev team? I saw a lot of 10/10s for Knight with the exception of the pc port being terrible. Which I think they've fixed mostly, I played through the entire game with dlc on steam with no issues. The story is whatever, as usual, but it's such a fun game to play.
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I'd sooner play Origins again than replay Knight. Easily the most disappointing game of 2015 for me.
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Squizzle posted:I saw Civil War on Sunday night, and so finally got to catch up on like 59 pages of the thread. Every movie does that. Also costumes, posters, merchandise, interviews, and one time just the letter A.
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I haven't played Arkham Knight, but it seems like it was doubling down on everything I didn't like about Arkham City (which I did like a lot overall), which I thought was a step down from Arkham Asylum in a lot of ways.
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Lurdiak posted:Every review I've seen said the complete opposite. Some people get really, really hung up on certain elements in things and refuse to budge or adjust, and AK has a big one in the batmobile (secondary would be the ludicrous number of riddler trophies if you're mentally ill and think you need them all). If you treat the car as a Bat Launcher/bizarre form of city-scale parkour the nuisance drops dramatically; that doesn't make the car great, mind you, but it becomes an occasional fun toy and sometimes minor irritant, which describes every great game ever made including that game you really love, yes that one.
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Travis343 posted:Are you sure you're not thinking of Origins, the crappy prequel they farmed out to a different dev team? I saw a lot of 10/10s for Knight with the exception of the pc port being terrible. Which I think they've fixed mostly, I played through the entire game with dlc on steam with no issues. No, every reviewer I trust said they greatly watered down the stealth, added a dumb mechanic that makes combat trivial, and that about 1/3rd of the game is completely unfun tankmobile gameplay. No interesting boss fights to speak of, no interestingly-designed puzzles, just easy combat, easy stealth, and tank fights. And the PC port still doesn't work for like 25% of users, last I heard.
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Donald Glover joins Spiderman - Homecoming. https://deadline.com/2016/06/donald-glover-spider-man-homecoming-1201772429/
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Lurdiak posted:No, every reviewer I trust said they greatly watered down the stealth, added a dumb mechanic that makes combat trivial, and that about 1/3rd of the game is completely unfun tankmobile gameplay. No interesting boss fights to speak of, no interestingly-designed puzzles, just easy combat, easy stealth, and tank fights. None of this is wrong. City is better than Knight. I disagree that Knight is bad, but any 10/10 review should probably be disregarded. I wouldn't go so far as to say I prefer Origins to Knight since I love myself, but Knight is not better than City. It looks better, I can't deny that. That's about it.
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Aphrodite posted:one time just the letter A. Everyone knows the French are terrible
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I'm probably alone on this one, but I'll take the Origins portrayal of Batman over City and Knights any day of the week. He's just a total dick to each and everyone of his allies in the Rocksteady games and never lets up.
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lomzus posted:Donald Glover joins Spiderman - Homecoming. This could be pretty huge.
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God Bless Eliott Kalan for that. He's going to be the new head writer for MST3K as well. But wasn't there a story where Doc Ock was doing science and Spider-man busts in and destroys it and Doc is all "but I was trying to cure aids!!"?
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JT Smiley posted:I'm probably alone on this one, but I'll take the Origins portrayal of Batman over City and Knights any day of the week. He's just a total dick to each and everyone of his allies in the Rocksteady games and never lets up. I'm sorry, how was the Origins portrayal any different?
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twistedmentat posted:God Bless Eliott Kalan for that. He's going to be the new head writer for MST3K as well. Well Ock was trying, and Spider-Man didn't believe him but Ock's formula failed before Spider-Man even got a chance to stop him. All Spidey knew was that Ock was doing something with infected blood and radioactive materials. After it failed Ock just gave up and turned himself in. That was in the old giant size Spider-Man Unlimited series from the '90s.
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Lurdiak posted:I'm sorry, how was the Origins portrayal any different? Because in Origins Bruce is completely fixated on his war on crime to the point that Alfred almost dies and he realizes that he's been a total rear end in a top hat and maybe he should treat the people in his life like people and not tools for his singular goal. As opposed to every other game where he's just a non-stop dick.
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Everything about Warner Brothers handling of the PC port/DLC mess was a total embarrassment, I don't feel bad if that becomes what the game is known for. I don't hate the game itself but even I went "really?" when they took down and reuploaded the game to Steam to wipe out user reviews.
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JT Smiley posted:Because in Origins Bruce is completely fixated on his war on crime to the point that Alfred almost dies and he realizes that he's been a total rear end in a top hat and maybe he should treat the people in his life like people and not tools for his singular goal. As opposed to every other game where he's just a non-stop dick. So he's an extra huge dick for 99% of the game, repeatedly threatening to murder people and generally being a violent psychopath, and then punches Alfred back to life and goes on a quest for revenge. Wow, so much nuance.
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