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here is an articlequote:ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi was reportedly killed in U.S.-led airstrikes on Tuesday. poor trump
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Hahaha the timing could not be worse. I guess Obama could've shot Baghdadi at the Trump speech maybe, but this is pretty bad for his narrative.
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zoux posted:Just checking but despite the fact that this guy was an American born nutball who couldn't deal with his sexuality, we're going to pretend like this guy was an ISIS ninja who snuck in through the refugee system for national political conversation purposes? because trump is not going to talk about amercia's history of violent homophobia and a general permissiveness towards guns and mass shootings, and if trump isn't going to talk about it the media does not give a gently caress about it
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baw posted:here is an article "This is not the first time al-Baghdadi, who hasn't been seen in public since 2014, has been reported dead."
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Slate Action posted:I would wait for confirmation on this. Yeah hasn't this been like the 4th or 5th time he's been 'killed'?
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mrmcd posted:Yeah hasn't this been like the 4th or 5th time he's been 'killed'? Why won't Obama admit the reality of immortal Islamic terrorists
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zoux posted:Unconfirmed reports that Al Baghdadi was killed in Raqqa last night, one day after Trump accused Obama of secretly supporting Islamic terrorism. lol i saw that headline way earlier and was skeptical https://twitter.com/Independent/status/742706532782071809 quote:Media outlets in Iran, Iraq, Russia and Turkey appeared to have fallen for a digitally altered image claiming to be a media statement from the so-called Islamic State. this is the "source" 
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zoux posted:Why won't Obama admit the reality of immortal Islamic terrorists The night is dark and full of terror(ist)s.
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mannerup posted:i saw that headline way earlier and was skeptical awww. 
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This is where Trump's lack of experience as a politician really shines through. If you want to paint Obama and Hillary as being weak on national security, he needed to limit it to something that couldn't really blow up in his face - like attacking their immigrant policy. When it comes to killing terrorists, Obama has the all-time high score, and Bernie voters were afraid that Hillary was going to be even more hawkish than Obama.
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Perfectly Safe posted:It's so breathtakingly vanilla that I'm surprised you can be that specific i was wrong looking at the page source apparently there's a whole business devoted to letting lovely politicians build their own website http://nationbuilder.com/
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im sure he would take credit for it, actually. like when nato formed an anti terrorist thing and he went on twit and said yeah that was me glad to see obama take my words to heart and actually do something still sad tho!
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TyrantWD posted:This is where Trump's lack of experience as a politician really shines through. If you want to paint Obama and Hillary as being weak on national security, he needed to limit it to something that couldn't really blow up in his face - like attacking their immigrant policy. When it comes to killing terrorists, Obama has the all-time high score, and Bernie voters were afraid that Hillary was going to be even more hawkish than Obama. This is why I am really, really looking forward to the debates. The GOP can spend the next three months coaching Trump if they want, but when he has to go up against Hillary without teleprompters he is going to be badly outmatched when it comes to policy and there are a lot of minefields he can stumble into that he will have a hard time escaping. His handlers can play damage control when he fucks up on twitter or in a news interview but when he's stuck in a 2-3 hour debate there is not a lot they can do. They might have him wear a wire like Bush did in 04, but even then I doubt it'd help much (plus, 1080p resolution might make it even more obvious)
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https://twitter.com/frankthorp/status/742725689217024000 https://twitter.com/ericawerner/status/742726028859211776 "Why didn't I just wait one. more. loving. day. to endorse"
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Al! posted:He could always just not agree to any debates I would not be surprised if this is what he does
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Al! posted:He could always just not agree to any debates He's going to destroy her at the debates. He's 6 ft 3, he's going to be looking down at pipsqueak Hillary the whole time. And it's gonna be embarrassing for her folks. She actually has to debate someone other than Breadline "Fugget about da' drat Emails" Bernie.
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Al! posted:He could always just not agree to any debates Maybe all the debate-organizing news organizations will be on his enemies list by then.
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If Obama killed Al Badgdhadi the day after trumps rant he's possibly the greatest politician ever.
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CalvinCoolidge posted:He's going to destroy her at the debates. Silent Cal. euphronius posted:If Obama killed Al Badgdhadi the day after trumps rant he's possibly the greatest politician ever. Likely not real tho
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CalvinCoolidge posted:He's going to destroy her at the debates. That doesn't play well See Hrcs senate debates.
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euphronius posted:That doesn't play well I don't seem to recall there being a 600 pound orange gorilla at the Senate Debates. This is a completely different game here folks, and Trump is going to win them. He's gonna make you say "Donald, put down that poor innocent woman, you're destroying her" and he'll say "NO folks, it's about time we got tough on immigration and had a sensible plan for cutting off Muslims from entering our country" before he rips her open like a pillowcase. It's going to be disgusting.
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euphronius posted:That doesn't play well Yeah, I mean didn't Palin get a ton of sympathy coming of the VP debate because people thought Biden came off as a bully by schooling her? I'm sure there's a percentage of voters who love watching a big man yell at a small woman but I imagine there's more who feel the opposite way. Its something I never really understand about the Republican war on Hillary. Its like they never grasped that there would come points where you had to be standing side by side with her and say those things and see how it comes off. But then again the Ted Cruz campaign manager thinks she's such a bad candidate that Lincoln Chaffee could beat her so, yeah.
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Good strategy imo, most polls show that people really prefer it when Trump attacks women and also when he talks about all his great foreign policy proposals
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euphronius posted:Yeah women love violence. They love strength, and seeing Donald tear her in half will be the ultimate coup de grace for her campaign. The only people left to defend her will be milquetoast Islamipologists and Professors that teach Anthropology. It's going to be embarrassing to be a Hillary supporter coming up here soon folks.
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CalvinCoolidge posted:I don't seem to recall there being a 600 pound orange gorilla at the Senate Debates. This is a completely different game here folks, and Trump is going to win them. He's gonna make you say "Donald, put down that poor innocent woman, you're destroying her" and he'll say "NO folks, it's about time we got tough on immigration and had a sensible plan for cutting off Muslims from entering our country" before he rips her open like a pillowcase. I applaud you for being the last bold Trumpkin left, all the rest of you have been cowed. Not you though, you see what's going on and think "This is all great for Trump" which really demonstrates the depth of your political acumen. mannerup posted:when our reporters followed up with speaker ryan in his office he pretended to walk down stairs behind his desk and remained underneath until we left lol
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I am so loving sad that the reports of Al-Baghdadi's death were false. Obama, already the all time leading scorer of killing the gently caress out of terrorists, killing the leader of ISIL the day after a racist, anthropomorphic orange popsicle tried to claim he was in some way a supporter of domestic Islamic terrorism might just have been the greatest political bodyslam of all time.
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STAC Goat posted:Yeah, I mean didn't Palin get a ton of sympathy coming of the VP debate because people thought Biden came off as a bully by schooling her? I dunno, it was easy to make Palin look bullied, she couldn't form a coherent sentence to save her life. Watching her speak without a teleprompter is like a computer program that throws random words together in proper grammatical structure. Sure it counts as a sentence, but there's nothing there. That and I loved watching Biden school both her and Paul Ryan 
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Trump probably would have found it all too convenient that Obama knew exactly where to find Al-Baghdadi and wondered aloud how that happened. Also he would have mispronounced Al-Baghdadi in a very embarrassing way. And then his campaign and supporters would have pretended it didn't happen. Iron Crowned posted:I dunno, it was easy to make Palin look bullied, she couldn't form a coherent sentence to save her life. Watching her speak without a teleprompter is like a computer program that throws random words together in proper grammatical structure. Sure it counts as a sentence, but there's nothing there. I did too, but I distinctly remember a ton of people just expressing discomfort at the image of a man so dominating a woman in a debate. Way more people seemed crediting Biden for schooling Ryan. But anecdotal evidence and all that.
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SuperDucky posted:I am so loving sad that the reports of Al-Baghdadi's death were false. Obama, already the all time leading scorer of killing the gently caress out of terrorists, killing the leader of ISIL the day after a racist, anthropomorphic orange popsicle tried to claim he was in some way a supporter of domestic Islamic terrorism might just have been the greatest political bodyslam of all time. There's still time.
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zoux posted:I applaud you for being the last bold Trumpkin left, all the rest of you have been cowed. Not you though, you see what's going on and think "This is all great for Trump" which really demonstrates the depth of your political acumen. To be fair, being a Trumpkin is hard. All people can do is say "No you" and "Heh, this time he's finished" or "Delete your account". The discourse here is sad folks. We just had the biggest terrorist attack since 9/11 perpetrated by registered Democrat and Islamist. If you think that is great for Hillary, then you might want to reconsider your opinion.
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Nonsense posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/act-four/wp/2016/06/13/how-ken-burns-built-his-blistering-attack-on-donald-trump/ Oh he mad. The frothing on both sides of the election this year is ineffably beautiful. I can't believe we still have five months of this
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CalvinCoolidge posted:registered Democrat Why is it surprising that the party that fought for slavery and against the rights of minorities, women and LGBT people would produce a mass shooter?
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