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sean10mm posted:There is no need to resort to hyperbole when new 100 round drums for ARs are a legal product that anyone can buy for real right now. They should be mandatory. Make everyone carry around a lovely, heavy, impossible to hide, and ridiculously prone to jamming drum mag.
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Of course a gun wont help you if someone comes up from behind and shoots you in the head. If you manage to hide somewhere like a bathroom or a classroom during an active shooting situation wouldnt be a bad idea to get on the floor and point ur gun at the door.
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Jun 14, 2016 15:46
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Liquid Communism posted:They should be mandatory. Make everyone carry around a lovely, heavy, impossible to hide, and ridiculously prone to jamming drum mag. Well, that is what the Open Carry movement wants. smoke sumthin bitch posted:Of course a gun wont help you if someone comes up from behind and shoots you in the head. If you manage to hide somewhere like a bathroom or a classroom during an active shooting situation wouldnt be a bad idea to get on the floor and point ur gun at the door. So he snuck up behind 3 people and shot them all in the head. What you are experiencing is a common fantasy among Self-Defense nerds. You are not going to be the one who survives to save the day.
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:Of course a gun wont help you if someone comes up from behind and shoots you in the head. If you manage to hide somewhere like a bathroom or a classroom during an active shooting situation wouldnt be a bad idea to get on the floor and point ur gun at the door. Or you can grow the gently caress up and stop pretending terrorist acts devolve into a game of laser tag.
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Jun 14, 2016 15:47
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zoux posted:I want to ban all guns forever but I'm willing to compromise at a ban on handguns and semi automatic actions. Only revolvers! 6 bullets, more than enough to kill anything that moves!
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Jun 14, 2016 15:48
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zoux posted:I want to ban all guns forever but I'm willing to compromise at a ban on handguns and semi automatic actions. What about these guns? *motions weakly to beanstalk arms where a muscle or two tremble and quiver gently*
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WampaLord posted:Only revolvers! 6 bullets, more than enough to kill anything that moves! thank god for this smiley 
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Jun 14, 2016 15:49
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Mozi posted:What about these guns? *motions weakly to beanstalk arms where a muscle or two tremble and quiver gently* That'll allow you to overpower the thug and take his firearm, and then travel to the land of Oz and throw down with the Wicked Witch, for all the good that fantasy will do.
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Jun 14, 2016 15:49
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Fans posted:It's just depressing to see this happen so often with so little done to stop it happening again. It's up there with people dying because of Homeopathy on just how infuriatingly stupid or self serving people have to be to perpetuate it. Here's hoping something happens over there soon, any progress at all would be good by this point. the #1 group of people being killed by firearms in america are gun owners committing suicide, who typically edge out all firearm homicides in a year. so in an odd way progress is being made
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Jun 14, 2016 15:50
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Popular Thug Drink posted:the #1 group of people being killed by firearms in america are gun owners committing suicide, who typically edge out all firearm homicides in a year. so in an odd way progress is being made Well....that and toddlers/children who find their fathers/friend's fathers gun 
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Jun 14, 2016 15:51
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CommieGIR posted:Well, that is what the Open Carry movement wants. Go read the texts the victims sent out to they moms saying how scared they were and that the shooter was coming and they was about to die. I would bet everything i have that those poor people wished they at least had weapons so that they could have a chance to see another day.
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:Go read the texts the victims sent out to they moms saying how scared they were and that the shooter was coming and they was about to die. I would bet everything i have that those poor people wished they at least had weapons so that they could at least have a chance to see another day. "If only they had a firearm" - NRA Fantasy 2016 Y'know, other than the people who DID have firearms. And got killed. I bet one more would've made all the difference considering the protracted gun battle the Police got into with the assailant.
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Jun 14, 2016 15:52
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Gun hunting is a pathetic sport anyway. Use bows and spears like your ancestors did. Chase that deer down until it falls to the ground in exhaustion, like the human body was designed to do. Wrestle it to the ground and snap its neck. Be an actual hunter, not a coward hiding behind a gun, attacking something that never has a fighting chance. Put yourself at risk and truly hunt.Hollismason posted:I will find you. Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:GO gently caress YOURSELF YOU poo poo! Hollismason posted:Hot Dogs are not Sandwiches
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Jun 14, 2016 15:54
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:Go read the texts the victims sent out to they moms saying how scared they were and that the shooter was coming and they was about to die. I would bet everything i have that those poor people wished they at least had weapons so that they could have a chance to see another day. nah most of them wished a guy wasn't shooting up the place because it turns out the default mental state when faced with a mortal threat is "this isn't happening" or "i wish i was somewhere else" not "please god make a firearm appear in my holster so that i may go get them sumbitches" americans, particularly american men, are prone to violent revenge fantasies and it's super weird. and gun manufacturers prey on these fantasies ("stand up to the gubmint! kill home invaders before or after they rape your kids!") in order to sell firearms like deranged beanie babies
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Popular Thug Drink posted:the #1 group of people being killed by firearms in america are gun owners committing suicide, who typically edge out all firearm homicides in a year. so in an odd way progress is being made I was listening to a report on the rise of suicides among white middle aged people and the host asked the expert, "Why is there such a disparity between suicide deaths in rural and urban areas" and the guy just flatly goes "Rural people are more likely to attempt suicide with a gun" and there was a beat of silence and they continued on. 86% of suicides attempted with a firearm end in death 3% of suicides attempted by pills/poisoning end in death
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Jun 14, 2016 15:55
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zoux posted:I was listening to a report on the rise of suicides among white middle aged people and the host asked the expert, "Why is there such a disparity between suicide deaths in rural and urban areas" and the guy just flatly goes "Rural people are more likely to attempt suicide with a gun" and there was a beat of silence and they continued on. i see no reason why we should ever infringe on the second amendment rights of rural white men, so long as they are more likely to kill themselves than someone else
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Jun 14, 2016 15:56
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:Go read the texts the victims sent out to they moms saying how scared they were and that the shooter was coming and they was about to die. I would bet everything i have that those poor people wished they at least had weapons so that they could have a chance to see another day. no
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Jun 14, 2016 15:57
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Jun 14, 2016 15:58
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Oh hey Julian Assange is trying to remind everyone that he still exists. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-06-13/julian-assange-warns-wikileaks-will-publish-enough-evidence-indict-hillary-clinton
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Jun 14, 2016 15:58
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CommieGIR posted:"If only they had a firearm" - NRA Fantasy 2016 I don't think people carrying guns in a nightclub is a good idea but your arguments are exceptionally dumb. One of the armed people died and the other two forced the shooter into the bathroom, likely saving many lives. Also "shelter in place and guard the entrance" is the responsible and useful thing to do if you're armed in such a situation.
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I was feeling better yesterday until I saw CNN airing that poo poo. We're a sick loving society.
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:You guys know im right i know you're right hosed up in the brain lmbo
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Jun 14, 2016 15:59
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A lovely Reporter posted:Gun hunting is a pathetic sport anyway. Use bows and spears like your ancestors did. Chase that deer down until it falls to the ground in exhaustion, like the human body was designed to do. Wrestle it to the ground and snap its neck. Be an actual hunter, not a coward hiding behind a gun, attacking something that never has a fighting chance. Put yourself at risk and truly hunt. My dad's a bow hunter and one thing you learn as a bow hunter is that deer are too loving stupid to know when they're dead. "Oh I have a sharp object embedded in the meat of my brain, now would be a grand time to run five hundred yards and bleed out in some impossibly small crevice far from any prying eyes."
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So....any new US political developments that aren't a 20-page-long gun derail?
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^^^^^ We may have killed Baghdadi in an airstrike, but no confirmation yet. zoux posted:I was listening to a report on the rise of suicides among white middle aged people and the host asked the expert, "Why is there such a disparity between suicide deaths in rural and urban areas" and the guy just flatly goes "Rural people are more likely to attempt suicide with a gun" and there was a beat of silence and they continued on. I can't remember if it was here or somewhere else, but I've seen the pro-gun side get some statistics from countries with stricter gun control where they use some pesticide or some other chemical to kill themselves with a pretty similar success rate to guns in the US. So no gun control is necessary because they're going to kill themselves anyway!
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Jun 14, 2016 16:00
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Warcabbit posted:You okay? Canceled all your cards, updated your subs, ready to go to the DMV? yeah and i gotta get a new phone. who steals a phone? very annoying. a bit shake and afraid to go outside right now, but that'll fade with time. thank you for all the kind words over the past few pages everyone, i appreciate them
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fknlo posted:I can't remember if it was here or somewhere else, but I've seen the pro-gun side get some statistics from countries with stricter gun control where they use some pesticide or some other chemical to kill themselves with a pretty similar success rate to guns in the US. So no gun control is necessary because they're going to kill themselves anyway! Haha yeah that sounds like them. Most suicide attempts are ad hoc, not planned out, people just grab what they have at hand in a really low moment. If what they have at hand is a gun, they're dead. If not, they will likely live.
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Jarmak posted:I don't think people carrying guns in a nightclub is a good idea but your arguments are exceptionally dumb. everything i'm reading states that these were cops, which really has nothing to do with armed bystanders, is there some article that says different?
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Mad Hamish posted:So....any new US political developments that aren't a 20-page-long gun derail? appeals court upheld FCC's net neutrality rules. so i think there's just one more appeal to go
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Necc0 posted:Oh hey Julian Assange is trying to remind everyone that he still exists. pull up, thread, pull up!!
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Popular Thug Drink posted:everything i'm reading states that these were cops, which really has nothing to do with armed bystanders, is there some article that says different? No they were cops, that wasn't the argument he was making though, which was "look how useless the three armed people at the scene were, they just died"
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Oxxidation posted:My dad's a bow hunter and one thing you learn as a bow hunter is that deer are too loving stupid to know when they're dead. "Oh I have a sharp object embedded in the meat of my brain, now would be a grand time to run five hundred yards and bleed out in some impossibly small crevice far from any prying eyes." Honestly, that just makes me sympathize with the deer. You go, Bambi. You may be almost dead but maybe you can still ruin that fucker's day and make him work for this. Maybe he'll have a heart attack and you'll be even. And while I hope your father lives a long and wonderful life I sympathize with that deer's desire for revenge. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Jun 14, 2016 |
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Zelder posted:yeah and i gotta get a new phone. who steals a phone? poo poo, people have been held up for nothing but their phones. Phones are worth a lot. Hope you're okay, Zelder.
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Jarmak posted:I don't think people carrying guns in a nightclub is a good idea but your arguments are exceptionally dumb. He managed to kill 50 and wound 50 more. Yeah, really effective. Jarmak posted:No they were cops, that wasn't the argument he was making though, which was "look how useless the three armed people at the scene were, they just died" Again, the amount killed doesn't reflect your claims.
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Mad Hamish posted:So....any new US political developments that aren't a 20-page-long gun derail? I've seen a bunch of articles about how the shooter might have been gay. Even if that isn't true there is some satisfaction in knowing that he despite the fact that he probably did this because he hated gay people, he will be remembered as being gay himself. Obviously there is nothing wrong with that but I feel like it would at least annoy the poo poo out of him if he were still around.
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CommieGIR posted:He managed to kill 50 and wound 50 more. It could have been millions! This incident highlights how terrible the "good guy with a gun" theory is but that's not gaining any kind of traction at all.
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Jun 14, 2016 16:06
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Fans posted:Can't you just point to literally any other country and go "See? Gun control works" UK and other countries have successful gun control because private ownership of guns is basically just banned though (yes I know there are various exceptions). I mean this would be perfectly fine if it happened in the us but when the two sides of the debate are "OBAMA COMING FOR OUR 2ND AMENDMENT" vs. "we just want obviously deranged people to wait 24 hrs before buying 10000 rounds of ammo, we wouldn't do something so tyrannical as to ban guns" pointing to other countries successful gun bans/confiscations is a non-starter.
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smoke sumthin bitch posted:Go read the texts the victims sent out to they moms saying how scared they were and that the shooter was coming and they was about to die. I would bet everything i have that those poor people wished they at least had weapons so that they could have a chance to see another day. If there was a club where people regularly carried guns who the gently caress would go to it? Drunk people with guns, yeah that sounds like it'll all work out.
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Fans posted:If there was a club where people regularly carried guns who the gently caress would go to it? Yeah, this fantasy scenario just ends with like 3 shootings in a month and the club shutting down. Those places actually exist in terrible neighborhoods. They're scary.
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CommieGIR posted:He managed to kill 50 and wound 50 more. Yeah it does, raw number of deaths don't mean jack poo poo. You aren't even making an argument.
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