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Fellatio del Toro posted:Do we know how many babies were aborted during the shooting yet? All of them.
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Gretchen Carlson on Fox News just argued for "common sense" gun control and to ban the AR-15. I'm a little shell shocked, but Carlson is an idiot so I'm not sure she knows what she's done.
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Jun 14, 2016 19:43
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 Breaking: Gretchen Carlson put on indefinite leave from the news desk.
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Jun 14, 2016 19:46
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Firearms should be restricted to the Samurai caste. Farmers and merchants have proven that they are not responsible enough to own weapons and it is weakening the influence of the Daimyo court.
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Jun 14, 2016 19:50
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MariusLecter posted:
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Jun 14, 2016 19:50
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STAC Goat posted:Gretchen Carlson on Fox News just argued for "common sense" gun control and to ban the AR-15. The selection of semi-auto hunting rifles is far wider than the AR-15, so the desire to ban it specifically is pretty stupid.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:17
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Chilichimp posted:The selection of semi-auto hunting rifles is far wider than the AR-15, so the desire to ban it specifically is pretty stupid. Yeah but the AR15 is garbage and belong in big slag piles.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:21
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Nevermind, misread the post.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:30
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Chilichimp posted:The selection of semi-auto hunting rifles is far wider than the AR-15, so the desire to ban it specifically is pretty stupid. You're right, it should be all magazines with a capacity higher than five rounds.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:35
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Really, we should ban every gun that isn't an ar-15 and that way all shooters will have training for the coming forever war. When they graduate to the carbine variants of the rifle the military uses, the smaller, lighter guns will be as nothing, like Goku taking off his weighted training clothes. Plus, since the AR-15 is semiautomatic only, we won't have the spray and pray problem like the last time there was a draft.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:39
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Mister Macys posted:You're right, it should be all magazines with a capacity higher than five rounds. I'd say ten, but I agree in principle.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:40
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BiggerBoat posted:Aw, man, I dunno what I'm on about. I got fired and divorced in the course of 5 days and now this mass shooting poo poo an hour and a half south of me that will in no way add to the upcoming poo poo show that has been this election nor test my resolve and tolerance for the way that RWM covers it. drat. You just had a lot of poo poo thrown at you. Are you still OK?
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Jun 14, 2016 20:44
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Chilichimp posted:The selection of semi-auto hunting rifles is far wider than the AR-15, so the desire to ban it specifically is pretty stupid. I'm not taking a stand one way or another since I know almost nothing on guns. "AR-15" is what Carlson said we should ban. If you tell me that's a stupid and reactive gun to single out I'm willing to believe you since Carlson is a stupid and reactive person. And my "common sense" tells me that IF there's guns that should be banned because they post too big of a danger to the public to their practical usage for a law abiding gun owner than that list is probably bigger than 1 gun. I just wanted to say that the dumb lady on Fox said we should do gun control and ban guns. Because reality has gone all wonky.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:47
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Chilichimp posted:I'd say ten, but I agree in principle. Genuinely curious, what is the practical reasoning to want more than five round magazines outside of being in say, a shooting range, or an active combat situation? I can't imagine a hunter taking more than a couple shots with a semi automatic rifle before the game is gone, and you can kill human beings on the street or in your house very easily with just five bullets. I think though, that a 5 round magazines only, AR-15 only America would be a better place. Those doing their service for citizenship would already have incentive to be precise, and as I mentioned in the previous post, well trained.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:48
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Chilichimp posted:I'd say ten, but I agree in principle. Let's split the difference and say 7.5 bullets. The half bullet is for an underslung pneumatic BB gun.
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Jun 14, 2016 20:50
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It's amazing watching the entire alt-right struggle and claw to maintain the narrative of that Omar was an ISIS sleeper agent immigrant that is slipping through their fingers. Breitbart Daily this morning spent 10 minutes talking about their crack newsteam in Orlando that will uncover "the truth". Oddly they already knew exactly what "the truth" wasn't, before doing any investigation. Also Crowder is on the hunt with his latest pile of poo poo - http://louderwithcrowder.com/22515-2/#.V2BtTX0rKUk
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Jun 14, 2016 21:48
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I thought Rupert Murdoch actually supported gun control though. I think there's room at Fox News for dissenting voices to the usual RAH RAH GUNS RAH RAH hannity type bullshit. Not much probably, since they know their market, but I wouldn't be surprised to see some opposing viewpoints arise.
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Jun 14, 2016 21:51
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Pander posted:I thought Rupert Murdoch actually supported gun control though. I think there's room at Fox News for dissenting voices to the usual RAH RAH GUNS RAH RAH hannity type bullshit. Those that actually saw some sense after the dozens of mass shootings while still claiming any form of gun control is an affront to the only amendment that actually matters are even would be even worse than the deluded true believers.
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Jun 14, 2016 22:07
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The Five has this really smug and ridiculous "Jihad expert" on who is dropping some bombs like "lone wolf is a made up phrase to make Americans stupid" and "We don't care about the sexual proclivities of Hitler" and that "radical islam" matters because "if you said a tuberculosis patient had a cold what would happen?" And apparently all the problems with mistakes made by the government on the War on Terror are the responsibility of the Civil Rights wing of the DOJ. I haven't watched the Five in months and I kind of just want all of these people to die in a fire.
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Jun 14, 2016 22:12
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Octatonic posted:Genuinely curious, what is the practical reasoning to want more than five round magazines outside of being in say, a shooting range, or an active combat situation? I can't imagine a hunter taking more than a couple shots with a semi automatic rifle before the game is gone, and you can kill human beings on the street or in your house very easily with just five bullets. Wild piggies, conceivably. Those fuckers are tough and not always alone. Anyone else remember that one goon with the anti-piggy recon drone?
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Jun 14, 2016 22:16
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STAC Goat posted:The Five has this really smug and ridiculous "Jihad expert" on who is dropping some bombs like "lone wolf is a made up phrase to make Americans stupid" and "We don't care about the sexual proclivities of Hitler" and that "radical islam" matters because "if you said a tuberculosis patient had a cold what would happen?" I just kind of imagine the guy with the question mark ranting and raving about this poo poo because it's so bizarro you'd have to be crazy to believe it. After the last few days I just need someone to make an image of the tree of liberty and Thomas Jefferson's quote except instead of patriots and tyrants it just says innocents. 
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Jun 14, 2016 22:18
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STAC Goat posted:I haven't watched the Five in months and I kind of just want all of these people to die in a fire. has Kimberly Guilfoyl found a way to randomly say "Black Lives Matter" in a derogatory way for no reason at all? Or said "Benghazi" in the middle of cross-talk with no prompting? Because that's like all she does.
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Jun 14, 2016 22:26
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Not that I heard but she called Obama a coward or something, mocked Juan Williams as a conspiracy theorist when he suggested that the shooting might be connected to the guy maybe being gay, and made a point to say "forty nine HUMANS died" in a way that made it sound like she was trying to make a point that she wasn't going to legitimize this "LGBT Tragedy" nonsense. But I turned it off after five minutes so I'm sure she got the rest in.
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Jun 14, 2016 22:31
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Bondi telling Cooper she had LGBT rainbow hands on her website was a bald faced lie: http://www.twitter.com/MarcACaputo/status/742820491136667648
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Jun 14, 2016 22:38
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Octatonic posted:Genuinely curious, what is the practical reasoning to want more than five round magazines outside of being in say, a shooting range, or an active combat situation? I can't imagine a hunter taking more than a couple shots with a semi automatic rifle before the game is gone, and you can kill human beings on the street or in your house very easily with just five bullets. It's as arbitrary as 5... 
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Jun 14, 2016 23:00
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Chilichimp posted:It's as arbitrary as 5... That's fair! Ten seems like a lot to me, in the sort of instinctual "one, two, three, several, many" sense.
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Jun 14, 2016 23:16
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Chilichimp posted:I'd say ten, but I agree in principle. The only prey that requires more than five rounds to kill or drive away in the United States are human crowds. V - Considering how often he goes in drag, you'd think Crowder could sympathize with the victims in Florida, too. 
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Jun 14, 2016 23:29
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It's been mostly buried under the weekend's afermath, but has anyone seen anything about the net neutrality ruling? Or does even Crowder recognize that it's a win for literally everyone not a service provider?
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Jun 14, 2016 23:30
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Geostomp posted:Yeah, I can't see RWM acknowledging white-on-black massacres even if it is to distract from violence against gay people. They're much more likely to bring up something related to terrorism or abortion. oh crap, this is inevitable isn't it? "While you were crying over a few people getting shot, eight vigintillion babies were murdered."
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Jun 14, 2016 23:43
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Octatonic posted:That's fair! Ten seems like a lot to me, in the sort of instinctual "one, two, three, several, many" sense. There are already laws common in America to limit pistols to 10 rounds, seems fair that rifles should do the same. They could be amended to apply to any gas-fed semi automatic weapon, which include rifles and pistols. Really though, what we need is universal background checks and ownership licensing
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Jun 15, 2016 01:39
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Chilichimp posted:There are already laws common in America to limit pistols to 10 rounds, seems fair that rifles should do the same. I would prefer single payer healthcare and mandatory psych evaluations every 5-6 years in addition to those 2.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:49
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Gun insurance covering property damage and injury/death like we have for cars is the best suggestion I've heard. Is there some reason this is dumb that I missed?
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Jack Gladney posted:Gun insurance covering property damage and injury/death like we have for cars is the best suggestion I've heard. Is there some reason this is dumb that I missed? None, really; the issue is that the NRA is rabidly opposed to "holding people responsible when bad things happen involving guns."
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Jun 15, 2016 04:45
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People are really attached to the idea of a responsible gun owner, which is fine as far as it goes, but they really get pissed when you suggest actually legally enforcing that responsibility.
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Jun 15, 2016 05:10
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Jack Gladney posted:Gun insurance covering property damage and injury/death like we have for cars is the best suggestion I've heard. Is there some reason this is dumb that I missed?
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Jun 15, 2016 06:36
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:Bondi telling Cooper she had LGBT rainbow hands on her website was a bald faced lie: Per the comments it was a non-public image on her facebook page.
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StandardVC10 posted:People are really attached to the idea of a responsible gun owner, which is fine as far as it goes, but they really get pissed when you suggest actually legally enforcing that responsibility. As with so many other things "responsibility" tends to just be code for "let me do whatever I want." Playing nicely into the NRA's absolute dedication to ensuring that nothing interferes with the flow of blood money into their pockets is just a nice bonus.
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fishmech posted:It's interesting that people jump straight to assuming a ban. Even in places like Australia and the UK and Japan, you can still own a handgun! You just have to have very good reasons for doing that, and not just "I'm really scared of black people so I need to have 3 pistols at all times while I drive through my suburb to a job in a data center". I don't know about Japan and Australia, but in the UK you can totally own a handgun. As long as it's a black powder weapon. Otherwise not so much*. The UK Olympic Pistol team has to practise abroad * Yes I know there are small loopholes for things like humane despatch weapons for animals but under no circumstances can you legally buy, random example, a Glock 9mm.
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StandardVC10 posted:People are really attached to the idea of a responsible gun owner, which is fine as far as it goes, but they really get pissed when you suggest actually legally enforcing that responsibility. The thing is, how do you prove that somebody is a responsible gun owner? To prove that you are a responsible driver, you have to get a loving license. Why wouldn't some kind of training or certification course apply in this situation? I've suggested this before to people and they're like "lol, cars aren't protected by the Second Amendment". THEY DIDN'T HAVE loving CARS 200 YEARS AGO! I would hate the government to ban guns. I've got a couple guns in my house for protection and target shooting, but I've been trained in gun safety from a very young age to treat them like the deadly weapons that they are. You start suggesting that we increase gun laws and people respond with "well you know criminals don't follow laws anyway!". Well gently caress murder is against the law, and you don't see people advocating against that do you?
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Vargatron posted:The thing is, how do you prove that somebody is a responsible gun owner? To prove that you are a responsible driver, you have to get a loving license. Why wouldn't some kind of training or certification course apply in this situation? I've suggested this before to people and they're like "lol, cars aren't protected by the Second Amendment". THEY DIDN'T HAVE loving CARS 200 YEARS AGO! I also have guns in my house and I think they are fun to shoot but I would also gladly give them all up if it meant sweeping change to gun legislation in this country. What little personal pleasure I have firing a gun from time to time is nothing compared to the public safety hazard that unrestricted gun access brings.
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