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Hollismason posted:This is loving amazing and worth the watch of it Anderson Cooper going after Attorney General Pam Bondi who fought against gay marriage in Florida. I think at any other time it would be great to point and laugh at how dumb she sounds but I had to turn that off. I'm shaking a little bit I'm so mad. gently caress these people.
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Buckwheat Sings posted:He's doing fine and he said he was going to do this from the very beginning. The contempt for him is strange to me. He's gone back on his promises not to cut social security. And then went back on going back. And then again. The point is he has no positions at all on anything but his policy ideas and rhetoric is extremist right wing.
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 the terrorism trump polling bump is real!!!Clinton is now only 11 points ahead of him instead of 13
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Fojar38 posted:
lol that article going on about it as if the change of a percentage point is anything other than statistical noise. And btw, we've already discussed that Bloomberg poll that has her up 12 points. Well the company that did the poll for them is Selzer & Co. and they have an A+ rating on 538. So take that for what it's worth.
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B B posted:He's not wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjibEkDoXQc
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:lol that article going on about it as if the change of a percentage point is anything other than statistical noise. HAHA WELP I had been ignoring it because I thought it was the last people who did something for Bloomberg, who were terrible IIRC Was it RV or LV? Because if those cross tabs are the reflection of a bunch of LVs from a reputable pollster then hoooooo boy, GOP freakout time is coming early
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Haven't been following the polls too closely lately, but am I right in saying that Hillary's looking quite safe lately? Over the past few weeks Trump's completely whiffed on an opportunity to bog her down in the email scandal, pursued multiple talking points and grudges that are pissing off prominent members of his own party, and his response to Orlando doesn't seem to be winning him any loving fans, and may have made his situation with LGBT voters even worse than I expect it already was. Meanwhile Hillary's clinched the nomination, appears to be on the verge of reaching an accord with Bernie, and landed some real counter-punches to Trump's flailing. Am I missing anything, or am I basically up to speed?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:
Man MTV news is surprisingly good.
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Jun 15, 2016 01:14
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It's almost like Trump's just a giant chunk of red meat covered in Cheeto dust.
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Welp, seeing lots of "I'm gay and I'm tired of HIllary coddling scary muslims who just wanna kill me, so I'm voting for Trump" articles coming out. I mean, just because you're a member of a at risk minority you can't be a lovely person, but the idea that Homophobia is purely a problem with Islam is just really loving stupid. Thing is, this is probably going to be the tactic taken by Trump and the rest of the Right in a vain attempt to gain support among the LGBQT community, who, from what I can tell, its not having any of it. You don't spend decades telling people that gays are subhuman and just want to molest children and are the root cause of all societies ills and then turn around and say Muslims are the problem and get people to believe you. Hah, I forgot about that word filter
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theblackw0lf posted:Interesting. Not sure I agree with the breakdown. gently caress I can't stand people who label Kaisch as center-right. He's barely to the left of Ted Cruz, he's just not as loud about his far right beliefs as Cruz and his ilk. Clinton might be center-left but center-right would be,maybe, someone like Bob Dole(?) or one of the Democrat senators from a state like West Virginia.
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Goatman Sacks posted:I mean it would be nice if he didn't actively provide assistance to the closest brush this country has had with fascism since the Business Plot, but I guess in the twilight years of his life he wants to be remembered for something more than 3 post office names and a pro-rape essay. Sir I Will Not Be Trolled
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Jun 15, 2016 01:41
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I read some article that told me that the Democrats aren't actually running candidates in several key races around the country for House and Senate. Is that still true (the article was published in late March)
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:He's gone back on his promises not to cut social security. And then went back on going back. And then again. And mine is that being a flip flopper doesn't make one an extreme right wing. All of the the candidates the republicans offered were dog poo poo, Trump included. It doesn't help that media is cutting them up to fit some piecemeal version of what amounts to positions of right wing and not so right wing. I'm sure that Trump is dangerous because his policies are whatever but its not like he's competing against amazing people when even if one of his policies differs from the republican goto position it's probably good. The republican platform is indeed that toxic and garbage. Evil Fluffy posted:gently caress I can't stand people who label Kaisch as center-right. He's barely to the left of Ted Cruz, he's just not as loud about his far right beliefs as Cruz and his ilk. Clinton might be center-left but center-right would be,maybe, someone like Bob Dole(?) or one of the Democrat senators from a state like West Virginia. Pretty much. If it were accurate, there'd be a huge gap between the democrats and republicans and the republicans would be basically right on top of each other.
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Evil Fluffy posted:gently caress I can't stand people who label Kaisch as center-right. He's barely to the left of Ted Cruz, he's just not as loud about his far right beliefs as Cruz and his ilk. Clinton might be center-left but center-right would be,maybe, someone like Bob Dole(?) or one of the Democrat senators from a state like West Virginia. His "Gosh shucks everyone" act fooled everyone in the primary, but that motherfucker cut Planned Parenthood funding for Ohio. gently caress him.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Am I missing anything, or am I basically up to speed? It's still a long way out from the election but the fear that Trump would suddenly clean up his act and broaden his appeal seems to have been completely unfounded. If anything, he's even less inhibited now.
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Inglonias posted:I read some article that told me that the Democrats aren't actually running candidates in several key races around the country for House and Senate. Is that still true (the article was published in late March) Yeah but they're mainly in places Democrats couldn't have won anyway and probably they couldn't find someone willing to waste their time and money on it. Edit: did we mention the poll that has 55% of likely voters saying they could never vote for Trump? Trabisnikof fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Dead Reckoning posted:If weak institutions, porous borders, and an organized crime problem are able to completely overwhelm a gun control regime out of Dianne Feinstein's fondest fantasies, maybe it's worth considering the possibility that gun control policies don't actually have the advertised impact on homicides and those structural issues are more important. Calling the cartels "an organised crime problem" is like calling Trump "a bit of a dick". Organised crime smuggles guns in from the shadows. The cartels drive around in homemade tanks daring the government to do something about it. They've spent the last decade openly fighting the Mexican army. It doesn't really matter what your gun control laws are, you can't enforce them when you don't even control your own territory.
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twistedmentat posted:Welp, seeing lots of "I'm gay and I'm tired of HIllary coddling scary muslims who just wanna kill me, so I'm voting for Trump" articles coming out. I mean, just because you're a member of a at risk minority you can't be a lovely person, but the idea that Homophobia is purely a problem with Islam is just really loving stupid. good, let trump try desperately to suck up to the LGBT crowd, he'll gain less voters from them than he loses from anti-gay christians mad he's rubbing elbows with sinners
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Until he's above water with white women, Trump has a 0% chance of winning. They're that critical of a bloc for him, but he doesn't seem to realize it or care even a little bit
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Dead Reckoning posted:If weak institutions, porous borders, and an organized crime problem are able to completely overwhelm a gun control regime out of Dianne Feinstein's fondest fantasies, maybe it's worth considering the possibility that gun control policies don't actually have the advertised impact on homicides and those structural issues are more important. Where's your sense of American Exceptionalism? Are you really resigned to failure because France had a serious terrorist incident and Mexico doesn't have its poo poo together? I don't think either serves as an effective parallel for the type of gun control policies that would have to be enacted in the United States if there was any hope of them being successful
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Evil Fluffy posted:gently caress I can't stand people who label Kaisch as center-right. He's barely to the left of Ted Cruz, he's just not as loud about his far right beliefs as Cruz and his ilk. Clinton might be center-left but center-right would be,maybe, someone like Bob Dole(?) or one of the Democrat senators from a state like West Virginia. You're exactly right. Joe Manchin, Democrat, or Jon Huntsman, Republican, would be far more representative of center-right politicians; maybe Chuck Hagel also. edit: oh and I forgot, Jim Webb. radical meme fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Jun 15, 2016 |
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Kasich also thanked women for leaving the kitchen to vote for him.
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Trump rally first hand in narrative format, thanks Al! for linking this originally: https://storify.com/case_face/a-trump-rally-in-greensboro-anger-in-here-is-palpa
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radical meme posted:You're exactly right. Joe Manchin, Democrat, or Jon Huntsman, Republican, would be far more representative of center-right politicians; maybe Chuck Hagel also. It's been a while since whatever presidential election Huntsman made a spectacularly unsuccessful bid for but as I recall his economic policies where farther right then anyone and he just hid in plain sight like Kasich, by not talking crazy 100% of the time.
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I'm pretty shocked folks are just finding out how cool Disney is with LGBTQ people. Haven't they been hosting Gay Days for like 20ish years at WDW and presumably longer at Disneyland?
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Bad news, I did
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoAriULv1P8 hosed up if true op
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pumpinglemma posted:Calling the cartels "an organised crime problem" is like calling Trump "a bit of a dick". Organised crime smuggles guns in from the shadows. The cartels drive around in homemade tanks daring the government to do something about it. They've spent the last decade openly fighting the Mexican army. It doesn't really matter what your gun control laws are, you can't enforce them when you don't even control your own territory. I'm actually kind of surprised we haven't started blowing their poo poo up with drones in all honesty. I guess they're all tied up in the middle east?
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fknlo posted:I'm actually kind of surprised we haven't started blowing their poo poo up with drones in all honesty. I guess they're all tied up in the middle east? I don't much think Mexico would be happy with us doing that, and they have a much larger influence on US business than Pakistan.
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So what's the deal with wikieaks saying they're gonna release a boatload of Hillary emails?
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fknlo posted:I'm actually kind of surprised we haven't started blowing their poo poo up with drones in all honesty. I guess they're all tied up in the middle east?
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoAriULv1P8 So, uh, when do they schedule the Clinton/Trump debates?
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fool_of_sound posted:I don't much think Mexico would be happy with us doing that, and they have a much larger influence on US business than Pakistan. I'm sure if Mexico asked for them, they'd get them.
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Deteriorata posted:I'm sure if Mexico asked for them, they'd get them. Yeah, part of my surprise is that this hasn't happened. I'm assuming that the cartels own enough of the government that it's really unlikely to happen? On top of a million other factors of course. WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoAriULv1P8 Did he sound kind of drunk there to anyone else?
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Re: that poll that showed Trump at 50% among white men. Well, figure they were a few points low and then white women just about mirror them for 50% approval among whites in general. Now apply that to the 2012 election using http://www.realclearpolitics.com/widgets/2016/turnout_two_party_vote.html: There's juuuust about a blue stripe there from sea to shining sea
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoAriULv1P8 weird that this is trump's first tossed-out anecdote that is actually true?
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fknlo posted:Yeah, part of my surprise is that this hasn't happened. I'm assuming that the cartels own enough of the government that it's really unlikely to happen? On top of a million other factors of course. I suspect it's national pride. They'll take covert aid from the US, but drones are really obvious and getting the US to fight their drug war for them is admitting defeat.
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